What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[HVC]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

What sort of racism should you focus in on Canada?

All of them my friend, all of them. You check out those anti Indian sites yet? They'd put a nice smile on your face.

[Razgovory]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

What sort of racism should you focus in on Canada?

Islamophobia is a good place to start

Islam is not a race.  And why focus on that one?  It's by no means the most commonly reported.

[Razgovory]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

What sort of racism should you focus in on Canada?

All of them my friend, all of them. You check out those anti Indian sites yet? They'd put a nice smile on your face.

Okay then, I think we are in agreement.  Just as we should focus on all racism we should have a focus equally on both Left and Right awfulness.  

[HVC]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

What sort of racism should you focus in on Canada?

All of them my friend, all of them. You check out those anti Indian sites yet? They'd put a nice smile on your face.

Okay then, I think we are in agreement.  Just as we should focus on all racism we should have a focus equally on both Left and Right awfulness. 

Sure, but when you say "what about" you're weighing them equal. Your first reaction when seeing shittiness on the right is to bring out some obscure leftists group and say "see" like what you're saying is some genius retort. It shows your true colours and concerns.

[HVC]

To highlight how obscure they are, it appears you got the acronym wrong. Couldn't find a CHUD group, but I did find CUAD which matches Columbia University Apartheid Divestment. Now, given my inability to spell i am the last person the point such things out, however it does prove a point. In your infinite hate of the white left this group is so minor you can't even bother to get the details right, and yet this group is obviously as important as Rubio.

[Razgovory]

CUAD was the first one that came to mind.  They were in the news last year when Trump tried to deport one of their leaders.  I wasn't doing "What about".  I wasn't trying to defend Rubio, I was pointing out that incoherence in the understanding of "Western".  Ancient Greece is just as much the foundation of the Russian or Middle Eastern world as it is the Western World.  There is nothing exclusively Western about Aristotle.

The difference between us, I think, is that I want to focus on things that are wrong.  You would prefer to focus on things that are wrong done by people you don't like.

[Razgovory]

To highlight how obscure they are, it appears you got the acronym wrong. Couldn't find a CHUD group, but I did find CUAD which matches Columbia University Apartheid Divestment. Now, given my inability to spell i am the last person the point such things out, however it does prove a point. In your infinite hate of the white left this group is so minor you can't even bother to get the details right, and yet this group is obviously as important as Rubio.

You really don't understand what I'm getting at, do you?  I don't hate the white left.  What I was concerned about was the increased radicalization among white leftists following Great recession.

[Jacob]

Is this some kind of weird abusive gaslighting? They constantly attack Europe over and over again and as soon as Europe starts getting pissed they whip out this little nugget? Anyway I have no idea what this shit means. What noble legacy did Athens and Rome have that we need to embrace to ensure we don't decline? Is he aware both Athens and Rome did, in fact, decline?

My read is that basically they'd like the "US a leaders of the West" relationship to continue, only Western values should be "white nationalism" instead of "freedom and democracy", and Europe should be paying more money to the US (or more to the point, to the US oligarchs who have captured the politics of the US).

Their white supremacy has a foundational myth of "the West" that originates in Europe, and they'd really like to reshape current Europe to conform to that myth.

[crazy canuck]

Is this some kind of weird abusive gaslighting? They constantly attack Europe over and over again and as soon as Europe starts getting pissed they whip out this little nugget? Anyway I have no idea what this shit means. What noble legacy did Athens and Rome have that we need to embrace to ensure we don't decline? Is he aware both Athens and Rome did, in fact, decline?

My read is that basically they'd like the "US a leaders of the West" relationship to continue, only Western values should be "white nationalism" instead of "freedom and democracy", and Europe should be paying more money to the US (or more to the point, to the US oligarchs who have captured the politics of the US).

Their white supremacy has a foundational myth of "the West" that originates in Europe, and they'd really like to reshape current Europe to conform to that myth.

Yes, and I think it goes deeper than that.  The fascination of the right with all things Greek and Roman and the notion that European nations are the direct cultural descendants of those ancient civilizations is deep rooted.  One need only look as far as DG's post to see it.

[Jacob]

The US during its mythological glory days has often looked back to the ancient Greeks and Romans for inspiration. Just look at American government architecture and various monuments. It makes sense that a reactionary US political movement looks back to ancient Greece and Rome again as it seeks to recapture its own imagined past.

[crazy canuck]

The US during its mythological glory days has often looked back to the ancient Greeks and Romans for inspiration. Just look at American government architecture and various monuments. It makes sense that a reactionary US political movement looks back to ancient Greece and Rome again as it seeks to recapture its own imagined past.

So, agreeing?

[Jacob]

About the Greek and Roman stuff, yes. I'm not getting involved in your use of DG as an example

[crazy canuck]

About the Greek and Roman stuff, yes. I'm not getting involved in your use of DG as an example

That's fine.  As a moderator you can't call out fascist sympathizing, but I can.

[Razgovory]

About the Greek and Roman stuff, yes. I'm not getting involved in your use of DG as an example

That's fine.  As a moderator you can't call out fascist sympathizing, but I can.

That's rich.

[The Minsky Moment]

Is he aware both Athens and Rome did, in fact, decline?

Don't tell him about Gibbon's thesis. His head might explode.