What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[viper37]

"Culture" is the dog whistle for "white is better". "Heritage" is the new "culture".

Then again...

I remember what happened to Persian emissaries when they talked to Spartans of tariffs. 

[crazy canuck]

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And yet the Symposium was banned 

[DGuller]

This is clearly a racist dog whistle, punctuates by the classic "reverse the decline" narrative, but like a lot of present-day fascism, it is fed by some legitimate grievances.  At some point in the Western society it became fashionable to beat up your own culture:  you're not enlightened if you don't recognize and keep talking about all the horrible things you've done to other people and continue doing. 

Self-reflection is good, but self-flaggellation is pathological.  At the end of the day, all cultures are flawed, but the Western one did bring a lot of good to the people in it and the world in general, like over time making liberty a default expectation.  It's not bad to recognize it sometimes.

[crazy canuck]

DG provides us a good explanation for why the fascists have a good chance of taking over the United States.

In the same breath as he condemns the post, he also goes on to say that there is a kernal of truth in what is being posted.

It is of course at utter nonsense.  But people like DG see some merit in what is being said.

[Valmy]

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Is this some kind of weird abusive gaslighting? They constantly attack Europe over and over again and as soon as Europe starts getting pissed they whip out this little nugget? Anyway I have no idea what this shit means. What noble legacy did Athens and Rome have that we need to embrace to ensure we don't decline? Is he aware both Athens and Rome did, in fact, decline?

[Razgovory]

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There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism. 

[Razgovory]

DG provides us a good explanation for why the fascists have a good chance of taking over the United States.

In the same breath as he condemns the post, he also goes on to say that there is a kernal of truth in what is being posted.

It is of course at utter nonsense.  But people like DG see some merit in what is being said.

Oh, no.  He's absolutely right.  If you come to believe that your own country is evil and a crime you aren't very likely to want to reform it.  You either want to destroy it, or become apathetic.  And certainly criticism of the your country does result in a backlash, as you so amply demonstrated in the Canadian thread.  Pointing out the identity of the people most likely to be victims of reported hate crimes in your country was not received with introspection by our Canadian posters.  It was received with dismissal, denial, and insults.  Not dissimilar to the way Trump supporters react to facts about racism in the US.

[Grey Fox]

He just means White.

[Valmy]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

[Zanza]

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Has this "I am a quarter Irish." vibe that seventh generation Americans claim.

[HVC]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

[Razgovory]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Don't be an asshole.  And I'm really fucking tired of "It's okay if we do it for reasons" bullshit.

IF "Western" has a meaning, something must be Western and somethings must not be.

[crazy canuck]

If

[Razgovory]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

What sort of racism should you focus in on Canada?

[crazy canuck]

There is an irony, the things that they want to protect and preserve, such as Ancient Greece and the Bible are arguably not Western, while the things they dislike such as Marxism is absolutely Western.  The reverse is similar, leftists groups such as the CHUD (Columbia University Apartheid Divestment) are explicitly about ending Western Civilization, while holding very Western ideas of Anti-Colonialism.

 

What a bunch of bunch of nonsense. As if anything western has some kind of purity to it, what TRULY Western and what's TRULY not. Garbage.
 
And then acting like the FUCKING SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES is equivalent to "leftist groups" of which, for an example, you bring up some obscure group nobody has ever heard of with an acronym that doesn't even spell out what you claim it represents and claim they are explicitly saying they want to destroy a civilization with no quotes or links or proof at all or any evidence that this "leftist group" if of any significance or importance at all.

But remember it's both sides folks. Oh fuck off. We have an actual quote from an actual world leader.

Raz will not stand for your white liberal lies. CHUD obviosuly has more power and influence then the secretary of state and thats were our focus should lie.

What sort of racism should you focus in on Canada?

Islamophobia is a good place to start