US - Greenland Crisis Thread

[bogh]

The Danish DoD is trying to figure out what happens to the 100ish Danish soldiers currently training or working at US military installations in the event of a war. Going directly from ally to enemy will present some odd scenarios for sure.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The Danish DoD is trying to figure out what happens to the 100ish Danish soldiers currently training or working at US military installations in the event of a war. Going directly from ally to enemy will present some odd scenarios for sure.

recall them now before you need to figure it out

[Legbiter]

The Danish DoD is trying to figure out what happens to the 100ish Danish soldiers currently training or working at US military installations in the event of a war. Going directly from ally to enemy will present some odd scenarios for sure.

They would instantly become POWs.

[Legbiter]

Protest in Nuuk outside the US consulate.



It is hard to overstate how much Greenlanders intensely dislike the sub 85 IQ groyper foreign policy of the US towards them.

[Legbiter]

Update from Copenhagen.

Danmark tage initiativ til en dialog med Sverige, Norge og Finland samt eventuelt Island om opbyggelsen af et fællesnordisk atomvåbenprogram.

Sådan lyder det fra er seniorrådgiver på Christiansborg og kontorchef i Bruxelles

https://www.berlingske.dk/synspunkter/det-er-tid-til-et-faellesnordisk-atomvaabenprogram-vi-kunne-opkalde-det-efter-thors-hammer

[Crazy_Ivan80]

this was kinda inevitable once the orange moron went full moron, together with his moron clique

[mongers]

Update from Copenhagen.

Danmark tage initiativ til en dialog med Sverige, Norge og Finland samt eventuelt Island om opbyggelsen af et fællesnordisk atomvåbenprogram.

Sådan lyder det fra er seniorrådgiver på Christiansborg og kontorchef i Bruxelles

https://www.berlingske.dk/synspunkter/det-er-tid-til-et-faellesnordisk-atomvaabenprogram-vi-kunne-opkalde-det-efter-thors-hammer

Hopefully France and the UK will proliferate the hell out of this.

[Norgy]

Update from Copenhagen.

Danmark tage initiativ til en dialog med Sverige, Norge og Finland samt eventuelt Island om opbyggelsen af et fællesnordisk atomvåbenprogram.

Sådan lyder det fra er seniorrådgiver på Christiansborg og kontorchef i Bruxelles

https://www.berlingske.dk/synspunkter/det-er-tid-til-et-faellesnordisk-atomvaabenprogram-vi-kunne-opkalde-det-efter-thors-hammer

That escalated quickly.

[Duque de Bragança]

Update from Copenhagen.

Danmark tage initiativ til en dialog med Sverige, Norge og Finland samt eventuelt Island om opbyggelsen af et fællesnordisk atomvåbenprogram.

Sådan lyder det fra er seniorrådgiver på Christiansborg og kontorchef i Bruxelles

https://www.berlingske.dk/synspunkter/det-er-tid-til-et-faellesnordisk-atomvaabenprogram-vi-kunne-opkalde-det-efter-thors-hammer

Hopefully France and the UK will proliferate the hell out of this.

The lessons of Suez'56 ?     

Different conclusions drawn, however.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Sweden was pretty close to a working nuclear device during the Cold War, whatever happens with Trump there's little strong argument to support non-proliferation at this point as a non-nuclear power.

In years past you could justify it by saying you are likely covered by a broader Western nuclear umbrella, but there's reasons even beyond Trump that I think call that into question.

Right now basically only France has a true independent nuclear arsenal in the West. The UK is going to have to figure out that its warheads solely being launched via missiles they lease from the U.S. is likely a loser position.

Japan and South Korea should both strongly consider building nuclear weapons programs as well.

[Norgy]

I find the Nordic countries going for nuclear weapons (at least Norway) quite difficult to grasp, as nuclear weapons was what has prohibited certain US Navy vessels from using Norwegian ports and bases. The nuclear project was ditched unceremoniously in the late 1950s, with Israel getting the last useful remnants of the heavy water. The last reactor, used for tests, was closed down years ago. But, anything is possible these days.

Nuclear power has been a contentious topic in the Nordics, and I am unsure whether public opinion is moving rapidly enough for this to become a realistic option within the needed timeframe (which I suppose is months rather than years).

[Jacob]

Update from Copenhagen.

Danmark tage initiativ til en dialog med Sverige, Norge og Finland samt eventuelt Island om opbyggelsen af et fællesnordisk atomvåbenprogram.

Sådan lyder det fra er seniorrådgiver på Christiansborg og kontorchef i Bruxelles

https://www.berlingske.dk/synspunkter/det-er-tid-til-et-faellesnordisk-atomvaabenprogram-vi-kunne-opkalde-det-efter-thors-hammer

That's an opinion piece, not an official government position. But I agree with it.

[Legbiter]

Yes but it gives a nice flavor of the mood in the Nordics.

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump respects nukes.  He backed down against China many times.  He left India off the visa ban list.  He is painfully deferential to Russia. He is in love with Kim.  France is the European country he most respects.  There is a pattern.

[Tamas]

While I find there are very good arguments for most countries to get nukes in this climate, this also reflect what I was talking about in the other thread: Trump's insanity is putting a world on the road to nuclear tragedy. It is foolish for countries not to want nukes but the bigger the proliferation is the larger the chance that somebody miscalculates and we all die a terrible death of radiation posioning and starvation.