US - Greenland Crisis Thread

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump announced tariffs over Greenland against Europe.

Maybe now the EU will figure out that no deal with Trump is worth the paper it is written on.  He only respects threats.

[The Minsky Moment]

They exercise police powers but do not follow their restrictions. Due process is systematically ignored. Lawlessness.

Example please.  Example please.

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You've always seemed well-informed, I'm a bit perplexed by this demand.

There are multiple district court findings across the country detailing abuses by ICE and federal law enforcement. Including the one recently issued in Minnesota. I'd encourage you to read the fact section, as it describes daily experience on the ground for ordinary citizens in Minneapolis.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.85.0_1.pdf

 That's aside from the hundreds of videos of ICE personnel assaulting people, smashing car windows on the slightest (or no) pretext.  Countless accounts of ICE agents taking people into custody and refusing to look at proof of citizenship.

[Threviel]

I've been away at a military course for the last week. Naturally US imperialism was a discussion point and we all agreed that we would volunteer as a trip wire force in Greenland. US aggression needs to be stopped and the US needs to be treated as the enemy it has chosen to become.

[Duque de Bragança]

Trump announced tariffs over Greenland against Europe.

Maybe now the EU will figure out that no deal with Trump is worth the paper it is written on.  He only respects threats.

I don't think anybody serious expected a bully such as Trump to not attempt to bully his way again.

As for using his "magic" tariffs, given the EU is much more a trade / economic powerhouse than a military powerhouse, it's –  almost – good news.

[Tamas]

You have to hand it to Trump though: nobody is talking about the illegally witheld Epstein files.

[Duque de Bragança]

You have to hand it to Trump though: nobody is talking about the illegally witheld Epstein files.

That goes without... saying. 

[Razgovory]

Trump announced tariffs over Greenland against Europe. Bring it on, Mango.

Europe should escalate this. With military deployments and counter-tariffs (or digital taxes).

Confiscate his properties in Europe.

[Jacob]

Trump announced tariffs over Greenland against Europe.

Maybe now the EU will figure out that no deal with Trump is worth the paper it is written on.  He only respects threats.

I don't think anybody serious expected a bully such as Trump to not attempt to bully his way again.

As for using his "magic" tariffs, given the EU is much more a trade / economic powerhouse than military powerhouse, it's –  almost – good news.

I kind of agree. I'd be surprised if tariffs are going to make any of the affected countries or the EU as a whole budge.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah - I think that's probably right and also a misreading of the EU's approach in response to the "liberation day" tariffs.

[Norgy]

It's the most beautiful word. Tariffs.

[Admiral Yi]

How do you  know how I take complaints about protesters? How do you know how I entertain the notion that ICE may be overstepping their boundaries?

By reading your posts when you write about it? Obviously you may have other opinions in reality and just be cosplaying MAGA drone? Are you?

I am not. I invite you to free your mind for just a moment of all preconceived notions and try to think if there are any    other possible ways to come to the conclusion that protesters are yelling personal insults at ICE agents other than accepting someone else's complaints.

[crazy canuck]

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MAGA party line compliance achieved! Congrats. 🎈

Maybe try applying the standards you apply to stories about ICE to the stories about protestors and vice versa.

boring

Yes, your MAGA light, faux Socratic method, hypocritical bullshit is getting very boring

[Legbiter]

Yes, your MAGA light, faux Socratic method, hypocritical bullshit is getting very boring

CC is a retarded moron who seemingly agonizes over an inevitable planetary warming centuries due as is his Canadian upper-middle class wont but I will say this. Witchhunting members of this board who display insufficient ideological zeal for whatever mental health struggles you are going through has been an unfortunate hallmark of this board for many years now. I don't care that Trump is a certified idiot, you can perfectly like harsh immigration policies or open borders for all. What I don't like is turning on fellow board members because of their nationality and perceived lack of public outrage.   

[Tamas]

How do you  know how I take complaints about protesters? How do you know how I entertain the notion that ICE may be overstepping their boundaries?

By reading your posts when you write about it? Obviously you may have other opinions in reality and just be cosplaying MAGA drone? Are you?

I am not. I invite you to free your mind for just a moment of all preconceived notions and try to think if there are any    other possible ways to come to the conclusion that protesters are yelling personal insults at ICE agents other than accepting someone else's complaints.

Is there a form of protest of current ICE methods displayed in Minessota and other places that you would find acceptable? Or is your core argument that these methods do not justify any protest?

Also what is the treshold at which voluntary members of an organisation can be held personally responsible for the actions they personally undertake while following guidelines and orders from that organisation (i.e. what's the treshold for personal insults becoming acceptable)?

[bogh]

I am not. I invite you to free your mind for just a moment of all preconceived notions and try to think if there are any    other possible ways to come to the conclusion that protesters are yelling personal insults at ICE agents other than accepting someone else's complaints.

Not the point we were discussing. Classic semantic derail.

Anyway, back to Greenland.

I actually think this will unite the opposition to Trump even more. Europeans would have wavered on economic retaliation, but that's now here as Trump brought it into play.