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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tamas

A lot more people will die to make sure the Epstein files won't return into main news.

Zoupa

uh are we just killing drug dealers via drone strikes now?  :wacko:

garbon

Quote from: Zoupa on September 03, 2025, 01:18:59 AMuh are we just killing drug dealers via drone strikes now?  :wacko:

Yeah unhinged.
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Syt

Quote from: Zoupa on September 03, 2025, 01:18:59 AMuh are we just killing drug dealers via drone strikes now?  :wacko:

It's (presumably) in international waters, so it's fine. :P
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Richard Hakluyt

Best to cancel that Caribbean fishing trip though, just in case.

Norgy

I would like you to recall Reagan's war on drugs in Colombia, Panama and what have you.


Sheilbh

I think narco groups have been listed as terrorists by the US for a while. It also doesn't strike me as a million miles from the Obama-era expansion of drone warfare - to an extent this seems like those policies flowing through.
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grumbler

Quote from: Syt on September 03, 2025, 01:44:21 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 03, 2025, 01:18:59 AMuh are we just killing drug dealers via drone strikes now?  :wacko:

It's (presumably) in international waters, so it's fine. :P

That makes it piracy.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2025, 05:52:54 PMWe've always called the certain strain of American foreign policy "isolationist", but that's not really accurate.  Switzerland and Sweden are isolationist.  The US was more unilateralist.  The so-called Isolationists in the US didn't want the US to stop interfering with other countries within it's sphere of influence.  They didn't want the US to be a situation where other countries could influence the US.  What they opposed was the US working with other countries as equals.
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I'd say there is a very long strand in American history of isolationism on the Atlantic/East Coast. With it a sense that Europe/the Old World is decadent, it's corrupting and it is trying to entangle America in its concerns (again a line of thinking that I think is present right now) - I think one interesting developing bit on this is the relationship with Israel.

But I think in relation to the Americas and the Pacific, America's imperialist.
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Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 03, 2025, 05:22:11 AMI think narco groups have been listed as terrorists by the US for a while. It also doesn't strike me as a million miles from the Obama-era expansion of drone warfare - to an extent this seems like those policies flowing through.

Trump massively expanded Obama's drone program in his first term though. It was always a matter of degree.
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Sheilbh

For sure and reduced reporting on it.

My thought is just that if the US declares some narcos as terrorists and it has established that drones are a legitimate tool against terrorists elsewhere in the world, it feels like this is just a matter of time. I feel like the next step will be - and I wonder at what point this happens - basically viewing Latin American sovereignty as as disposable to Trump as, say, Yemen's or Pakistan's. At least this was in international waters but I wouldn't be surprised before the end of this term to see drone attacks in Venezuela.
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 03, 2025, 10:04:25 AMFor sure and reduced reporting on it.

My thought is just that if the US declares some narcos as terrorists and it has established that drones are a legitimate tool against terrorists elsewhere in the world, it feels like this is just a matter of time. I feel like the next step will be - and I wonder at what point this happens - basically viewing Latin American sovereignty as as disposable to Trump as, say, Yemen's or Pakistan's. At least this was in international waters but I wouldn't be surprised before the end of this term to see drone attacks in Venezuela.

All scary brown people are terrorists to people like Trump.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

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"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."