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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tamas

Quote from: Tonitrus on August 20, 2025, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 20, 2025, 03:26:00 PMThis random guy has a point: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/s/GcQMwtZdZk

Honest/non-troll counterpoint...how many mass, armed-with-guns protests were there in eastern Europe during the fall of the communist regimes there?

(the more extreme events in Romania noted in advance)

Point taken but those regime's faced mass protests due to collapsing economies. They didn't bring guns but they brought a combination of a huge mass of people and the regime knowing their foreign support was fading away.

Tonitrus

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Sounds like the only thing yet missing is the collapsing economy (maybe pending) and the mass of people.

And, well...the few decades of punishing authoritarianism proceeding the revolution.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Sheilbh on August 20, 2025, 03:53:16 PMIt is a disgrace that museums contain nothing about the Future.

They have Tupac, Run DMC, Nas, the Roots.  They have JDilla's Minimoog and Grandmaster Flash's Rane Mixer.

No Future, however. Smithsonian must have something against mumble rap.  Didn't figure DJT as a fan but perhaps all those lunches with Kanye have rubbed off.

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Tamas

Quote from: Tonitrus on August 20, 2025, 04:45:27 PMSounds like the only thing yet missing is the collapsing economy (maybe pending) and the mass of people.

And, well...the few decades of punishing authoritarianism proceeding the revolution.

Yeah. I am not sure what the right approach is (manageable violent protests would be a godsend to the regime in many ways) this clip just resonated with my earlier frustrations with Hungarian protests. For example when Orban went after the NGOs some years ago to make sure nobody can have any political or cultural influence who is not his vassal. What did the affected civilian society do? Had a few hours of peaceful protest where they formed a heart shape on one of the prominent public spaces of Budapest. I am pretty sure Orban and his people laughed their assess of.

Valmy

Quote from: Savonarola on August 20, 2025, 03:50:16 PMTrump says the Smithsonian focuses too much on 'how bad slavery was'

Having been to the Smithsonian several times I am not sure what he is talking about. It is a great museum but hardly super critical of the US. But then I am not a super sensitive white nationalist so maybe I lack the context to be outraged.
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Neil

Have you been to the African American Museum, the one that looks like a haystack?  It's pretty focused on slavery and Civil Rights, in almost exactly the sort of ways that would make them furious.  It's not 1619 Project by any means, but those people get mad about overt descriptions of the injustices of slavery and thought that Grima Wormtongue had some good points in Mississippi Burning.
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Valmy

Quote from: Neil on August 21, 2025, 01:34:11 PMHave you been to the African American Museum, the one that looks like a haystack?  It's pretty focused on slavery and Civil Rights, in almost exactly the sort of ways that would make them furious.  It's not 1619 Project by any means, but those people get mad about overt descriptions of the injustices of slavery and thought that Grima Wormtongue had some good points in Mississippi Burning.

I have. But the Smithsonian is so huge, it is just a small part of it. I think the last time I was in DC, 2022, I didn't visit it.

But point taken. Maybe he wants the AA Museum to be about how great the ideas of Booker T Washington were or something.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Valmy on August 21, 2025, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 21, 2025, 01:34:11 PMHave you been to the African American Museum, the one that looks like a haystack?  It's pretty focused on slavery and Civil Rights, in almost exactly the sort of ways that would make them furious.  It's not 1619 Project by any means, but those people get mad about overt descriptions of the injustices of slavery and thought that Grima Wormtongue had some good points in Mississippi Burning.

I have. But the Smithsonian is so huge, it is just a small part of it. I think the last time I was in DC, 2022, I didn't visit it.

But point taken. Maybe he wants the AA Museum to be about how great the ideas of Booker T Washington were or something.

The eight museums Trump has put on review to verify that they align with Trumps vision are:

National Museum of American History
National Museum of Natural History
National Museum of African American History and Culture
National Museum of the American Indian
National Air and Space Museum
Smithsonian American Art Museum
National Portrait Gallery
Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden

I haven't been to the Smithsonian in a long time, so I'm not really sure how some of these offend Trump's world view (especially the National Air and Space Museum.)  I think the starting point of all of this was a show at the National Portrait Gallery by Amy Sherald which featured a piece called "Trans Forming Liberty":



(I could be wrong and if it hadn't been this it would be something else.)

Which seems tame as compared to say Robert Maplethorpe's sadomasochist photographs that everyone was up in arms about 30 years ago.
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The Minsky Moment

Air and Space has science in it, and factual information.  These are bourgeois concepts that must be cleansed to ensure proper adherence to Marxist-Leninist thought.

Sorry, bit of glitch there.  I meant to say these are woke concepts that must be reviewed to ensure proper adherence to President Trump's policy agenda.
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Sheilbh

It is far less serious than this - or literally anything else about Trump. But I did laugh at the leaked audio of him speaking to the Kennedy Center (after he'd appointed himself President) where he wanted to push things in a "slightly more conservative" direction and wanted "'non-woke' musicals, like Cats".
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Cats are libertarians. Or free citizens. Perfectly self-assured, yet begging for food.
And probably, with them being rather "this is mine", not too fond of a property tax.

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