What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Admiral Yi]

She does not have a monopoly on information about who fucked who.

[Tamas]

Surprising no one who understands the effect of tariffs, inflation has increased in the US.

The stockmarket rallied at the news, though.

[Valmy]

Surprising no one who understands the effect of tariffs, inflation has increased in the US.

The stockmarket rallied at the news, though.

The stockmarket makes no fucking sense. Everything can be going to shit, it goes up. A business clearly loses a fuckton of money with few realistic chances of ever turning a profit and everybody buys their stock. It is a fucking joke. But hey at least I somewhat profit off the idiocy.

[HVC]

Surprising no one who understands the effect of tariffs, inflation has increased in the US.

The stockmarket rallied at the news, though.

The stockmarket makes no fucking sense. Everything can be going to shit, it goes up. A business clearly loses a fuckton of money with few realistic chances of ever turning a profit and everybody buys their stock. It is a fucking joke. But hey at least I somewhat profit off the idiocy.

It was better when it was a rich man's plaything. Now it has bots and regular people (read idiots).

[Josquius]

In a way, nothing new, they've been doing this with Latino kids for years. There is an element where it is extra shocking when it happens to a white English speaking kid.

All this aside. Imprisoning a 6 year old at the best of times is barbaric. When he has a valid visa....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/13/new-zealand-woman-six-year-old-son-ice-detention-us-ntwnfb

The US is truly fucked.

[garbon]

The US is truly fucked.

Is the UK truly fucked?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/11/immigration-detention-home-office-ordered-to-pay-50000-after-child-separated-father

2018:

Home Office ordered to pay £50,000 after child separated from father

High court says parent placed in immigration detention illegally and daughter nearly placed for adoption

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/21/home-office-held-eight-month-old-baby-with-british-citizenship-in-detention

2019:

Home Office held eight-month-old baby with British citizenship in detention

Court documents show baby was locked with his Nigerian mother for 12 days

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/27/child-asylum-seekers-detained-as-adults-after-uk-home-office-alters-birth-dates

2022:

Child asylum seekers detained as adults after UK Home Office 'alters birth dates'

https://www.scottishlegal.com/articles/children-still-being-detained-at-dungavel-despite-home-office-promises

2023:

Children still being detained at Dungavel despite Home Office promises

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/12/home-office-legal-challenge-lone-children-rwanda

2024:

Home Office faces legal challenge over risk of lone children being sent to Rwanda

Charity says children could be deported as adults before age can be formally determined

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/home-office-children-return-brazil-parents-rpXqg_2/

2025:

Home Office tells children, aged 11 and eight, they must return to Brazil without parents or face being 'detained'

[The Minsky Moment]

Surprising no one who understands the effect of tariffs, inflation has increased in the US.

The stockmarket rallied at the news, though.

The pre-announcement expectation was even worse.  Between that, the poor jobs numbers, and the intense political pressure on the Fed, the expectation of a rate cut rose.

[Josquius]

The US is truly fucked.

Is the UK truly fucked?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/11/immigration-detention-home-office-ordered-to-pay-50000-after-child-separated-father

2018:

Home Office ordered to pay £50,000 after child separated from father

High court says parent placed in immigration detention illegally and daughter nearly placed for adoption

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/21/home-office-held-eight-month-old-baby-with-british-citizenship-in-detention

2019:

Home Office held eight-month-old baby with British citizenship in detention

Court documents show baby was locked with his Nigerian mother for 12 days

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/27/child-asylum-seekers-detained-as-adults-after-uk-home-office-alters-birth-dates

2022:

Child asylum seekers detained as adults after UK Home Office 'alters birth dates'

https://www.scottishlegal.com/articles/children-still-being-detained-at-dungavel-despite-home-office-promises

2023:

Children still being detained at Dungavel despite Home Office promises

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/12/home-office-legal-challenge-lone-children-rwanda

2024:

Home Office faces legal challenge over risk of lone children being sent to Rwanda

Charity says children could be deported as adults before age can be formally determined

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/home-office-children-return-brazil-parents-rpXqg_2/

2025:

Home Office tells children, aged 11 and eight, they must return to Brazil without parents or face being 'detained'

These are all clearly scandals. Things that shouldn't have happened. Somebody fucked up massively.

In Trump's America its WAD.

[Tamas]

Surprising no one who understands the effect of tariffs, inflation has increased in the US.

The stockmarket rallied at the news, though.

The pre-announcement expectation was even worse.  Between that, the poor jobs numbers, and the intense political pressure on the Fed, the expectation of a rate cut rose.

As I mentioned a while back (and, predictably, got challenged on it by Yi, as I recall), I feel like this constant hope by the market for a rate cut is the sign of a very unhealthy general setup, where everything depends on institutions' ability to pump cheaply loaned money into financial assets to generate "growth".

[HVC]

These are all clearly scandals. Things that shouldn't have happened. Somebody fucked up massively.

In Trump's America its WAD.

How many scandals does the uk need before it's considered WAD?

[Richard Hakluyt]

The 2028/29 general election will probably see the UK comprehensively fucked up and operating at Trumpish levels of incompetence and general nastiness going forward.

[PJL]

The 2028/29 general election will probably see the UK comprehensively fucked up and operating at Trumpish levels of incompetence and general nastiness going forward.

The only crumb of comfort is that it looks like we won't be alone in this.

[Valmy]

The 2028/29 general election will probably see the UK comprehensively fucked up and operating at Trumpish levels of incompetence and general nastiness going forward.

Yeah. I got the sense when Labour won in 2024 that it was the UK's last chance before the deluge and they HAD to succeed.

And they are just fucking it up. Just like the Democrats did. There is such a lack of urgency and so much business as usual bullshit from these mainstream parties on the precipice of total disaster. It is terrifying, frustrating, and puzzling.

Ultimately the people are sovereign and we are responsible and the buck stops with us...but still. Good people are begging these leaders to lead and take charge and steer the ship through these troubled waters and they just seem like the most indifferent people...

[The Brain]

Decades of electing people to read bear fruit.

[Tamas]

The 2028/29 general election will probably see the UK comprehensively fucked up and operating at Trumpish levels of incompetence and general nastiness going forward.

Yeah. I got the sense when Labour won in 2024 that it was the UK's last chance before the deluge and they HAD to succeed.

And they are just fucking it up. Just like the Democrats did. There is such a lack of urgency and so much business as usual bullshit from these mainstream parties on the precipice of total disaster. It is terrifying, frustrating, and puzzling.

Ultimately the people are sovereign and we are responsible and the buck stops with us...but still. Good people are begging these leaders to lead and take charge and steer the ship through these troubled waters and they just seem like the most indifferent people...

I agree completely