What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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Sophie Scholl

#39210
July 01, 2025, 05:30:03 PM
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Razgovory

#39211
July 01, 2025, 05:32:56 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sophie Scholl

#39212
July 01, 2025, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2025, 04:59:09 PMI don't even have to read this to know it's Lisa Murkowski.
Come on now. It could have been Susan Collins! Surprisingly, she used her vestigial spine and actually voted against it.
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Valmy

#39213
July 01, 2025, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on July 01, 2025, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2025, 04:59:09 PMI don't even have to read this to know it's Lisa Murkowski.
Come on now. It could have been Susan Collins! Surprisingly, she used her vestigial spine and actually voted against it.

Which is the only reason I knew it wasn't her.  :lol:
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The Minsky Moment

#39214
July 01, 2025, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 01, 2025, 02:35:55 PMI don't know why the US wants to present as evil, stupid, and weak.

It's the Trump brand!
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Tonitrus

#39215
July 01, 2025, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on July 01, 2025, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2025, 04:59:09 PMI don't even have to read this to know it's Lisa Murkowski.
Come on now. It could have been Susan Collins! Surprisingly, she used her vestigial spine and actually voted against it.

From a purely selfish political perspective...

- Susan Collins is facing a real and present re-election fight in Maine from the left in the midterms.  It could have been purely a move to attempt to hold that off...no spine required.

- Lisa Murkowski comes from a very red state.  Now, I would contend that Alaska is not as purely GOP as others (there is still a very strong independent streak in their brand of Republicanism), but it could easily be read as still sliding that way.  She is not up until 2028...but even that far off could be in very danger of being ousted from the right.

Tonitrus

#39216
July 01, 2025, 08:16:59 PM
I would say too...knowing the capriciousness of the current GOP, I expect both to be primay-ed by more loyal GOPers anyway.

crazy canuck

#39217
July 02, 2025, 11:38:53 AM
It's Bannon's flood the zone strategy.  So much corruption and terrible policy decisions are occurring that it is impossible for anyone to keep up.

crazy canuck

#39218
July 02, 2025, 06:00:45 PM
On the bright side, early indications are the Bill is not going to get the support it needs in the House - I hope that is true for the sake of our American friends here.

Valmy

#39219
July 03, 2025, 01:54:04 PM
Bill passed.

Is this the Enabling Act for the USA? I guess we will find out.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Zanza

#39220
July 03, 2025, 02:03:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 03, 2025, 01:54:04 PMBill passed.

Is this the Enabling Act for the USA? I guess we will find out.
Does it give Trump any further powers that the Supreme Court did not already give him?

It sounds like a terrible bill, setting all the wrong incentives and harm those in need of protection, but I did not get the impression that it is an enabling act so far.

Edit: I think in hindsight this bill will be seen as one more step away from the global hegemony the US enjoyed the last hundred years or so.

Grey Fox

#39221
July 03, 2025, 02:19:47 PM
It's the revenge bill.
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crazy canuck

#39222
July 03, 2025, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 03, 2025, 01:54:04 PMBill passed.

Is this the Enabling Act for the USA? I guess we will find out.

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grumbler

#39223
July 03, 2025, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Zanza on July 03, 2025, 02:03:51 PMDoes it give Trump any further powers that the Supreme Court did not already give him?

It sounds like a terrible bill, setting all the wrong incentives and harm those in need of protection, but I did not get the impression that it is an enabling act so far.

Edit: I think in hindsight this bill will be seen as one more step away from the global hegemony the US enjoyed the last hundred years or so.

It strips away the authority of any court to declare any of its provisions unconstitutional.  Sure, that proviso is itself unconstitutional, but the USSC can simply put off ruling it unconstitutional until enough time lapses that they can declare it moot.
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garbon

#39224
July 03, 2025, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 03, 2025, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Zanza on July 03, 2025, 02:03:51 PMDoes it give Trump any further powers that the Supreme Court did not already give him?

It sounds like a terrible bill, setting all the wrong incentives and harm those in need of protection, but I did not get the impression that it is an enabling act so far.

Edit: I think in hindsight this bill will be seen as one more step away from the global hegemony the US enjoyed the last hundred years or so.

It strips away the authority of any court to declare any of its provisions unconstitutional.  Sure, that proviso is itself unconstitutional, but the USSC can simply put off ruling it unconstitutional until enough time lapses that they can declare it moot.

Does it still say that?
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