2025 Portuguese legislative election

[HVC]

Funny to see how Chega replaced the communists in Alentejo.

That happens a lot. The horseshoe theory at work.

It's where all the new Bangladeshi and Indians went. Which is kind of funny. Portuguese don't want to do the agricultural work but hate the people that do every once in a While there a thing that goes around where odemira (a town/municipality in Portugal) is being replaced by Indians. Portuguese Facebook is wild.

[Duque de Bragança]

HVC

Seems even Moors like you in the South don't like immigration, of the islamic kind.  Funny to see how Chega replaced the communists in Alentejo. 
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Looks like my ancestral homeland(s) voted AD

Nazaré ?
Chega is first. 

https://cnnportugal.iol.pt/eleicoes/legislativas2025/resultados/concelho/1011/nazare

CHEGA
27.49%
2.111 votos
AD
25.93%
1.991 votos
PS
25.40%
1.950 votos

[HVC]

Ok, half my ancestral land went AD haha

*edit* other half is Lisboa. Alvalade Specifically. Going back a few more generations it's Figueiró dos Vinhos, which went even more AD

[Valmy]

Funny to see how Chega replaced the communists in Alentejo.

That happens a lot. The horseshoe theory at work.

It's where all the new Bangladeshi and Indians went. Which is kind of funny. Portuguese don't want to do the agricultural work but hate the people that do every once in a While there a thing that goes around where odemira (a town/municipality in Portugal) is being replaced by Indians. Portuguese Facebook is wild.

Just like Americans.

Hate the immigrants but nobody wants to move to the great plains and work all day in a giant industrial milk factory.

[Duque de Bragança]

Funny to see how Chega replaced the communists in Alentejo.

That happens a lot. The horseshoe theory at work.

It's where all the new Bangladeshi and Indians went. Which is kind of funny. Portuguese don't want to do the agricultural work but hate the people that do every once in a While there a thing that goes around where odemira (a town/municipality in Portugal) is being replaced by Indians. Portuguese Facebook is wild.

Alentejanos are not exactly known for their hardworking attitude. 
I don't think there that many there, compared to say, Martim Moniz square in Lisbon. 
Besides, FB and other assorted anti-social networks are to be taken with a pinch of salt. 

Alentejo has gypsies though, the other apple of André Ventura's eyes. 

[Duque de Bragança]

Funny to see how Chega replaced the communists in Alentejo.

That happens a lot. The horseshoe theory at work.

It's where all the new Bangladeshi and Indians went. Which is kind of funny. Portuguese don't want to do the agricultural work but hate the people that do every once in a While there a thing that goes around where odemira (a town/municipality in Portugal) is being replaced by Indians. Portuguese Facebook is wild.

Just like Americans.

Hate the immigrants but nobody wants to move to the great plains and work all day in a giant industrial milk factory.

Not really since Portuguese people have been doing that kind of work, just not for the cut rate "offered" by modern day slavers.
Lots of Portuguese did it or have been doing it abroad, as a matter of fact.

[HVC]

But Martim moniz was always a hellhole. Before them it was the heroine addicts of Lisbon. It's not like they made the place any worse, just darker in skin colour


*edit* at the gypsys are everywhere

[HVC]

Funny to see how Chega replaced the communists in Alentejo.

That happens a lot. The horseshoe theory at work.

It's where all the new Bangladeshi and Indians went. Which is kind of funny. Portuguese don't want to do the agricultural work but hate the people that do every once in a While there a thing that goes around where odemira (a town/municipality in Portugal) is being replaced by Indians. Portuguese Facebook is wild.

Just like Americans.

Hate the immigrants but nobody wants to move to the great plains and work all day in a giant industrial milk factory.

Not really since Portuguese people have been doing that kind of work, just not for the cut rate "offered" by modern day slavers.
Lots of Portuguese did it or have been doing it abroad, as a matter of fact.

That's the "problem". Those willing to do it go abroad to do it for more money so no one is left who wants to do it at home, so you have to import them. Problem is two fold. Portugals poor so attracts even poorer countries (undesirable in a lot of eyes). Second fold ( ) is that it's an easier way for these immigrants to get EU citizenship. Europe is gonna be pissed at Portugal in a decade or so when the now Portuguese citizens flood other wealthier nations.

[Duque de Bragança]

Given the lenient and somewhat efficient anti illegal drug policy including decriminalisation  of weed (not heroin), the situation of drug addicts was slowy improving.
To be fair, gentrification/boboisation would also deplace the issue sooner or later.

But Moors being Moors, as in fatalistic, current Martim Moniz square is business as usual. 

[Valmy]

Portugal is also ground zero for digital nomad douchebags.

[HVC]

Given the lenient and somewhat efficient anti illegal drug policy including decriminalisation  of weed (not heroin), the situation of drug addicts was slowy improving.
To be fair, gentrification/boboisation would also deplace the issue sooner or later.

But Moors being Moors, as in fatalistic, current Martim Moniz square is business as usual. 

Give them a decade or so and once they get citizenship they'll move to wealthier nations. Probably your neck of the woods actually

That being said I do think Portugal has done a shit job and immigration control. So have a lot of countries. But if they were of fairer complexion I don't think chega would do as well. Portugal has been bitching about Brazilians for decades but hasn't done much. 100,000 south Asians make it across the border and they lose their shit

[HVC]

Portugal is also ground zero for digital nomad douchebags.

Fair. But the bigger issue with the affordability crisis is AirBnB. Leaches.

[Duque de Bragança]

That's the "problem". Those willing to do it go abroad to do it for more money so no one is left who wants to do it at home, so you have to import them. Problem is two fold. Portugals poor so attracts even poorer countries (undesirable in a lot of eyes). Second fold ( ) is that it's an easier way for these immigrants to get EU citizenship. Europe is gonna be pissed at Portugal in a decade or so when the now Portuguese citizens flood other wealthier nations.

The problem only started due to the previous government of Costa with his massive immigration policy, while claiming it would be "selective" in the choice of immigrants.  Dismantling the border and foreigner police, instead of reforming it, was also stupid but ideologically motivated;
Also, Portuguese citizenship has been tightened up a bit again due to abuses (the "paper" Portuguese I saw at the consulate...), by Costa and his clique, so citizenship won't be that easy, though technically Portuguese citizenship is not needed, sometimes just a document showing (somewhat) legal residence in Portugal and travel rights in the Schengen Area.

Plus people named Muhammad or Yussuf won't be seen anytime soon as Portuguese in Europe.

[Duque de Bragança]

Portugal is also ground zero for digital nomad douchebags.

They play a part in higher rents and housing issues, specially in big cities, but Chega can't really campaign against them.
Burden shared with Spain, Italy and Greece, as well.

[Duque de Bragança]

Given the lenient and somewhat efficient anti illegal drug policy including decriminalisation  of weed (not heroin), the situation of drug addicts was slowy improving.
To be fair, gentrification/boboisation would also deplace the issue sooner or later.

But Moors being Moors, as in fatalistic, current Martim Moniz square is business as usual. 

Give them a decade or so and once they get citizenship they'll move to wealthier nations. Probably your neck of the woods actually

Bragança ? I have seen a couple of them already but don't worry they will head back to Lisbon, in time.
It will take more time, they need to bring back cousins as in so-called family regrouping, marry them (inbreeding is kosher in those countries.  ) have "Portuguese" children and then perhaps gain Portuguese citizenship.

That being said I do think Portugal has done a shit job and immigration control. So have a lot of countries. But if they were of fairer complexion I don't think chega would do as well. Portugal has been bitching about Brazilians for decades but hasn't done much. 100,000 south Asians make it across the border and they lose their shit

Apples and Oranges (not PSD  ).
Brazilians have had a privileged status and can immigrate very easily thanks to the treaty of Porto Seguro, which also grants the same benefits to Portuguese people. Granted, the benefit seems dubious for Portugal now. 

Yet Brazilians managed to immigrate ilegally and be exploited, either by their already installed countrymen or Portuguese bosses.
Lately, it's been more bourgeois Brazilians fleeing brazilian troubles, political problems and criminality, yet voting Chega, of course. 

Also, these Indians and Bengalis are muslim, dark-skinned Indians have been in Lisbon for a while, but they were catholic or hindus and spoke Portuguese... The latter used to provide the only vegetarian restaurants for tourists, back in the day.
Not to mention there are probably more than 100,000 of them now, in Al-Usbuna alone.