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Quo Vadis, Democrats?

Started by Syt, November 13, 2024, 01:00:21 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 03:10:10 AMSuggestions that out of touch progressives have been controlling the DNC seem laughable to me. None of the strong progressive voices are close to the inner circles of the party. None of them were close to Biden, or Harris' inner circles either. If their voices seem louder, it's because the "official message" from the DNC is muddled, weak, or inexistant. In that vacuum, some more progressive voices get heard more.

The DNC's role is to raise money for campaigns and run primaries.  It's not their job to message.

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 12:07:29 PMMy point is that marginalized people aren't being catered to, it's that Democrats defer to elites that share some characteristics with marginalized people.  Simply being Black doesn't give you special insight into the lives of all Black people.  So deferring to wealthy Black scion from Colorado who attended Columbia University when crafting policy for poor Black people in Mississippi is counterproductive.

Well that's true.

But still one might expect a politician who operates in San Antonio would know something about the priorities of southern Texas Tejanos.

But nope.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Iormlund

Perhaps there's something I'm missing, but by far the biggest problem I see with the Democratic Party is their last significant piece of legislation passed almost 15 years ago.

And even that (ACA) was a watered-down piece of shit.

No amount of messaging will help with that.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Iormlund on Today at 06:16:01 PMPerhaps there's something I'm missing, but by far the biggest problem I see with the Democratic Party is their last significant piece of legislation passed almost 15 years ago.

And even that (ACA) was a watered-down piece of shit.

No amount of messaging will help with that.

So the biggest problem with Democratic party is they have not controlled both houses of Congress for a long time.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on Today at 06:16:01 PMPerhaps there's something I'm missing, but by far the biggest problem I see with the Democratic Party is their last significant piece of legislation passed almost 15 years ago.

And even that (ACA) was a watered-down piece of shit.

No amount of messaging will help with that.

So the biggest problem with Democratic party is they have not controlled both houses of Congress for a long time.

Well not since 2022.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Is that right?  My bad.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 06:32:21 PMIs that right?  My bad.

Yeah. It was how they were able to pass all that stuff in Biden's first two years. The Republicans weren't going to help them.

Well except for that gay marriage bill, which was appreciated.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."