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Started by mongers, January 27, 2025, 10:44:13 PM

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Steam says I have these games, which one Paradox game should I sink some time into?

Europa Universalis IV + 6 Expansions - 2.2 hrs played
6 (46.2%)
Europa Universalis III Complete - 5.1 hrs            "
0 (0%)
Hearts of Iron III Collection - 7.1 hrs
0 (0%)
Crusader Kings II - 5.6 hrs
4 (30.8%)
Victoria II base only - 4.8 hrs
1 (7.7%)
Arsenal of Democracy - 67.8 hrs (Is this HOI I or II)
0 (0%)
Go Old School and dig out those CDs of EUI/II, HOI I or II Vict I
1 (7.7%)
Buy A New Paradox Game You Tight Bastard
0 (0%)
No, Go Play A Strategy From Another Company - Gasp!
1 (7.7%)

Total Members Voted: 13

mongers

Steam says I have these games, so which one Paradox game should I sink a lot of game time into?

Or should I buy more DLC for one or buy one of the recent games instead?

I had Crusader Kings II and some expansions, but these seemed to have been converted into the free to play version. :hmm:

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Tamas

Yeah I voted EU4. CK2 can be wonderful but it is to be heavily modded and there's a bigger learning curve before you truly can enjoy it.

mongers

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2025, 09:48:44 AMEU4 is the best of that lot.

Thanks CC and Tamas, I'll go with your suggestions.

Looking back, if you ignore HOI 1/2 because I've had enough WW2 to last a life time, it's EU 1/2 that I really played the hell out of, so EU4 it is. :)

Edit:
Just remembered I have their space sim, Starliss? (spelling), obviously haven't played that much either!
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Maladict

Yeah EU4, if only to justify the cost of all those expansions.

Barrister

Quote from: mongers on January 28, 2025, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2025, 09:48:44 AMEU4 is the best of that lot.

Thanks CC and Tamas, I'll go with your suggestions.

Looking back, if you ignore HOI 1/2 because I've had enough WW2 to last a life time, it's EU 1/2 that I really played the hell out of, so EU4 it is. :)

Edit:
Just remembered I have their space sim, Starliss? (spelling), obviously haven't played that much either!

Judging by the amount of time played you just don't have as much room in your life for computer gaming.

So I'd be tempted to tell you to fire up EU2.  It's a much simpler game and one you could dive right into.

Or, for a similar reason, Stellaris.  Because you start with just one planet and a couple ships it starts out very simple, and gets more complicated as you expand.
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Valmy

CKII is my favorite Paradox game. So I think you should play that one.

But turn off the stupid fantasy events.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

Quote from: Valmy on January 28, 2025, 01:10:19 PMCKII is my favorite Paradox game. So I think you should play that one.

But turn off the stupid fantasy events.

Yep agree on all counts. :hug:
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celedhring

Unless he has mods for CK2 (and he hasn't listed any), probably better to go with EU4.

Valmy

Quote from: celedhring on January 28, 2025, 01:17:12 PMUnless he has mods for CK2 (and he hasn't listed any), probably better to go with EU4.

I have never used any mods for CK2 :hmm:

Which mods are you talking about?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

Quote from: celedhring on January 28, 2025, 01:17:12 PMUnless he has mods for CK2 (and he hasn't listed any), probably better to go with EU4.

Why? CK2 is pretty fun with out them and I don't think I'd recommend HIP. Maybe that base mod that CK2Plus crew made.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

crazy canuck

I thank you guys are remembering CK2 after several DLCs and not the base game.  It became much better with the DLCs, but prior to that? 

mongers

Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 28, 2025, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2025, 09:48:44 AMEU4 is the best of that lot.

Thanks CC and Tamas, I'll go with your suggestions.

Looking back, if you ignore HOI 1/2 because I've had enough WW2 to last a life time, it's EU 1/2 that I really played the hell out of, so EU4 it is. :)

Edit:
Just remembered I have their space sim, Starliss? (spelling), obviously haven't played that much either!

Judging by the amount of time played you just don't have as much room in your life for computer gaming.

So I'd be tempted to tell you to fire up EU2.  It's a much simpler game and one you could dive right into.

Or, for a similar reason, Stellaris.  Because you start with just one planet and a couple ships it starts out very simple, and gets more complicated as you expand.

Indeed, which I why I'm going to attempt some gaming before the weather improves, hopefully.  :bowler:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Valmy

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2025, 02:18:53 PMI thank you guys are remembering CK2 after several DLCs and not the base game.  It became much better with the DLCs, but prior to that? 

Well prior to that it was the sequel to CK so a much better game so I don't remember when it became as good as it is now. The game did come out 13 years ago. Also I don't know how much of the game Mongers has.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

crazy canuck

Quote from: Valmy on January 28, 2025, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2025, 02:18:53 PMI thank you guys are remembering CK2 after several DLCs and not the base game.  It became much better with the DLCs, but prior to that? 

Well prior to that it was the sequel to CK so a much better game so I don't remember when it became as good as it is now. The game did come out 13 years ago. Also I don't know how much of the game Mongers has.

Where he has DLC's his says the number.

My recollection of CK2 out of the box is that it was an unfinished game that got rushed to market.