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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Josquius on December 03, 2024, 07:30:30 AMCanada in the US would indeed my a net win for the world.
I'd be curious how the conservunderstandative bits of Canada would go. I  they tend to be a bit more actual live on planet earth conservati :secret:
Quote from: Habbaku on December 03, 2024, 12:49:35 PMI don't know that we need another territory that's poorer than Mississippi.
ve rather than the lunatic-conservative of the US.

Lots of mineral wealth though.
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Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 04, 2024, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: Josquius on December 03, 2024, 07:30:30 AMCanada in the US would indeed my a net win for the world.
I'd be curious how the conservunderstandative bits of Canada would go. I  they tend to be a bit more actual live on planet earth conservati :secret:
Quote from: Habbaku on December 03, 2024, 12:49:35 PMI don't know that we need another territory that's poorer than Mississippi.
ve rather than the lunatic-conservative of the US.

Lots of mineral wealth though.

Canada does have lots of mineral wealth.  Tons of it.  Remember I'm the guy with a geology degree who worked for mining companies and a provincial Dep't of Energy and Mines.

The thing is - it's always a question of cost.

I really pushed back against the notion of "peak oil" back when that was a thing.  Because we'll basically never run out of oil (or iron, or copper, or whatever else) - it's just always a matter of how much do you want to pay for it.

Also - it's not liek Canada wouldn't trade our mineral wealth to the US!
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viper37

Quote from: Barrister on December 04, 2024, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 04, 2024, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: Josquius on December 03, 2024, 07:30:30 AMCanada in the US would indeed my a net win for the world.
I'd be curious how the conservunderstandative bits of Canada would go. I  they tend to be a bit more actual live on planet earth conservati :secret:
Quote from: Habbaku on December 03, 2024, 12:49:35 PMI don't know that we need another territory that's poorer than Mississippi.
ve rather than the lunatic-conservative of the US.

Lots of mineral wealth though.

Canada does have lots of mineral wealth.  Tons of it.  Remember I'm the guy with a geology degree who worked for mining companies and a provincial Dep't of Energy and Mines.

The thing is - it's always a question of cost.

I really pushed back against the notion of "peak oil" back when that was a thing.  Because we'll basically never run out of oil (or iron, or copper, or whatever else) - it's just always a matter of how much do you want to pay for it.

Also - it's not liek Canada wouldn't trade our mineral wealth to the US!
Peak oil isn't about running out of oil, is when demand is higher than current possible production, after which, it goes down irreversibly.  There is still oil, just less and less to fill the demand because you need oil (&gaz) to extract it and transport it to consumers who need it.

That's one of the many reasons why it was important to decrease demand of the product, so as to alleviate the pressure on the prices.  Supply & demand, and all that boring economic 101 stuff that modern Conservatives all over the world don't seem to believe in anymore. :(

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viper37

Good one from the Beaverton

In case some of you still wouldn't know, it's a satirical website, similar to The Onion.
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Tamas

Are you guys finally ready to admit that Trump entertains you even if you hate him? He made one ridiculous shitpost and as usual it triggers a 5 page discussion even here.

Norgy

Quote from: Tamas on December 05, 2024, 02:31:08 AMAre you guys finally ready to admit that Trump entertains you even if you hate him? He made one ridiculous shitpost and as usual it triggers a 5 page discussion even here.

Oh, I am entirely entertained and scared shitless in equal measures.

Richard Hakluyt

Yeah, I think he is one of the world's greatest comedians, a satirical piss-take of the age we live in.

It is just unfortunate that he is going to be the leader of the most powerful country on Earth.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Tamas on December 05, 2024, 02:31:08 AMAre you guys finally ready to admit that Trump entertains you even if you hate him? He made one ridiculous shitpost and as usual it triggers a 5 page discussion even here.

You have missed the subtext of what is going on here. After Trudeau met with Trump for dinner there was a bunch of chatter on right wing shows that Canada should become the 51st state.

This isn't just us talking about Trump making a stupid post using AI. This is what it's like living next-door to the powerful nation on earth governed by Trump.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Tamas on December 05, 2024, 02:31:08 AMAre you guys finally ready to admit that Trump entertains you even if you hate him? He made one ridiculous shitpost and as usual it triggers a 5 page discussion even here.

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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 05, 2024, 05:26:32 AMYeah, I think he is one of the world's greatest comedians, a satirical piss-take of the age we live in.

It is just unfortunate that he is going to be the leader of the most powerful country on Earth.


Probably second most powerful country by the end if it

PJL

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 05, 2024, 05:26:32 AMYeah, I think he is one of the world's greatest comedians, a satirical piss-take of the age we live in.

It is just unfortunate that he is going to be the leader of the most powerful country on Earth.


I figured he was Zaphod last time. Doubley so now.

mongers

Quote from: PJL on December 05, 2024, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 05, 2024, 05:26:32 AMYeah, I think he is one of the world's greatest comedians, a satirical piss-take of the age we live in.

It is just unfortunate that he is going to be the leader of the most powerful country on Earth.


I figured he was Zaphod last time. Doubley so now.

That's a good comparison, but I do think Zaphod was a loveable rouge, whereas trump is just a plain sphincter.
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Valmy

Quote from: Tamas on December 05, 2024, 02:31:08 AMAre you guys finally ready to admit that Trump entertains you even if you hate him? He made one ridiculous shitpost and as usual it triggers a 5 page discussion even here.

I am thoroughly tired of his schtick. But I have had to endure it for 40+ years. You foreigners have it easy.

But it is why he was famous and why he got elected.
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Norgy

I hope we get the tapes from that conversation with Putin that will end the war in Ukraine in what was it, one day?  :showoff:


Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: viper37 on December 04, 2024, 08:38:54 PMPeak oil isn't about running out of oil, is when demand is higher than current possible production, after which, it goes down irreversibly.  There is still oil, just less and less to fill the demand because you need oil (&gaz) to extract it and transport it to consumers who need it.

That's one of the many reasons why it was important to decrease demand of the product, so as to alleviate the pressure on the prices.  Supply & demand, and all that boring economic 101 stuff that modern Conservatives all over the world don't seem to believe in anymore. :(

A hard shortage like that is, essentially, "running out" of something.  That hard shortage has been predicted dozens of times over the past century, but they have all been laughably wrong because the proponents of peak oil consistently and significantly underestimate: how much oil is available; how much current production and proven reserves depend on the economics of extraction; how quickly extraction and refining technology moves.

One of the other fundamental problems with the theory, alluded to by your second paragraph, is that it doesn't properly account for the emergence of alternatives to petroleum products.  One of the consequences of tightening supply is rising prices, and a consequence of rising prices is making alternatives more attractive.  Peak oil seems to be based partly on a semi-magical idea that there is no alternative to oil and that demand can reach a point where we are literally pumping oil from the earth as fast as we can and it isn't enough.  The actions in your second paragraph happened because the economics of oil changed and climate change became an acknowledged issue, not because anybody believed peak oil is a real thing.