What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Valmy]

A fringe Quebec provincial party campaigns on having Quebec join the USA. They believe our invitation still stands to this day.

That invitation was only good while Benedict Arnold's army was invading.

[Barrister]

A fringe Quebec provincial party campaigns on having Quebec join the USA. They believe our invitation still stands to this day.

Problem is that the US still hasn't made Puerto Rico a state, despite it being a US territory for well over a century, and despite the fact that statehood actually carried a majority in the most recent referendum held one month ago.

There is something to be said for Canada joining the US.  As Trump points out it would guarantee our complete access to the US market.  The US is a much richer country (I think I pointed out a few months ago how the poorest US state, Mississippi would be richer than almost all Canadian provinces) so surely some economic benefit would follow.  Federal taxes would be lower.

I also posted a little while ago about how the idea of an Alberta Provincial Police also has a lot of benefits - but the transition costs would be huge.  Canada joining the US?  Take that and multiply it by a million.  Any number of changes and accomodations would have to be made.

[HVC]

A fringe Quebec provincial party campaigns on having Quebec join the USA. They believe our invitation still stands to this day.

they're ok with getting the Louisiana treatment?

[Valmy]

PR needs an enabling act by Congress to make a state constitution which would need to be approved by Congress.

So two non-filibustered acts passed by the Senate? LOL. Our system is too dysfunctional for that...well ok actually all it would take is for the Republican Party to be for it.

[Grey Fox]

A fringe Quebec provincial party campaigns on having Quebec join the USA. They believe our invitation still stands to this day.

they're ok with getting the Louisiana treatment?

Why would we get the Louisiana treatment?

US Federal rights & obligations are vastly different from the Canada federal one. I am of the opinion that Quebec has US state would be more respected than has a Canadian province.

While we laugh at Puerto Rico and it's statelessness. Has a US territory it gets lots advantages Quebec would love to have & keeps the ability to become a independent country at any moment.

[Barrister]

A fringe Quebec provincial party campaigns on having Quebec join the USA. They believe our invitation still stands to this day.

they're ok with getting the Louisiana treatment?

Why would we get the Louisiana treatment?

US Federal rights & obligations are vastly different from the Canada federal one. I am of the opinion that Quebec has US state would be more respected than has a Canadian province.

While we laugh at Puerto Rico and it's statelessness. Has a US territory it gets lots advantages Quebec would love to have & keeps the ability to become a independent country at any moment.

OK, so I know this isn't necessarily your position, but why would Quebec as an American territory be more respected and get more advantages?

Only one I can think of is no federal income tax - although I understand that turns out to not be such a great deal at the end of the day.

[Valmy]

Why would we get the Louisiana treatment?

Probably this:

Decline in the early 20th century
In 1921, the new Louisiana constitution reversed the previous language rights and banned the teaching of French in all public schools.[22] The constitution established English as the official language of Louisiana, which pushed French out of New Orleans to its current location in southwestern parts of the state.[23] The education and religious services of Louisiana eventually fell prey to English, and the eventual consequence of speaking French was that speaking French became a sign of cultural illegitimacy.[23] Parents viewed the practice of teaching their children English as the intrusion of a foreign culture, and many refused to send their children to school. When the government required them to do so, they selected private French Catholic schools in which class was conducted in French.[citation needed] Derogatory terms and phrases were used by English speakers to put social pressure on French speakers ("Don't speak Cajun. Speak White!"),[24] a sentiment later criticized by the Québécois poet Michèle Lalonde's in her 1974 poem "Speak White" ("Speak white... be civilized").[25] The French schools worked to emphasize Standard French, which they considered to be the prestige dialect. When the government required all schools, public and parochial, to teach in English, new teachers, who could not speak French, were hired. Children could not understand their teachers and generally ignored them by continuing to speak French. Eventually, children were subjected to corporal punishment for speaking French on school grounds.[20]

The punishment system (which was not dissimilar to the manner in which children attempting to speak both immigrant and indigenous languages other than English were dealt with in schools elsewhere in North America) seems to have been responsible for much of the decay that Louisiana French experienced in the 20th century since, in turn, people who could not speak English were perceived as uneducated. Therefore, parents became hesitant to teach French to their children, hoping that the children would have a better life in an English-speaking nation.[20] As of 2011, there were an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 people in Louisiana who spoke French. By comparison, there were an estimated one million native French-speakers in Louisiana in about 1968. While French is now taught in schools, the local dialect is now at risk of extinction as children are no longer taught it.

As of 2007, there were questions whether the Louisiana French language would survive into another generation.[26] Some residents of Acadiana are bilingual though, having learned French at home and English in school. Currently, Louisiana French is considered an endangered language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_French

[Habbaku]

Problem is that the US still hasn't made Puerto Rico a state, despite it being a US territory for well over a century

If Quebec joins the USA, we have the chance to do the funniest thing...

[Valmy]

Only one I can think of is no federal income tax

 

Who has no federal income tax? Because the United States certainly has one.

[Barrister]

Only one I can think of is no federal income tax

 

Who has no federal income tax? Because the United States certainly has one.

Right - but not one that most PR residents are required to pay.

From wiki (largely quoting the IRS):

Only certain residents of Puerto Rico are required to file federal income tax returns. According to the Internal Revenue Service:

In general, United States citizens and resident aliens who are bona fide residents of Puerto Rico during the entire tax year, which for most individuals is January 1 to December 31, are only required to file a U.S. federal income tax return if they have income sources outside of Puerto Rico or if they are employees of the U.S. government. Bona fide residents of Puerto Rico generally do not report income received from sources within Puerto Rico on their U.S. income tax return. However, they should report all income received from sources outside Puerto Rico on their U.S. income tax return. Residents of Puerto Rico who are employed by the government of the United States or who are members of the armed forces of the United States also should report all income received for their services to the government of the United States on their U. S. income tax return. United States citizens or resident aliens who are not bona fide residents of Puerto Rico during the entire tax year are required to report all income from whatever source derived on their U.S. income tax return. However, a U.S. citizen who changes residence from Puerto Rico to the United States and who was a bona fide resident of Puerto Rico at least two years before changing residence can exclude from U.S. taxable income the Puerto Rican source income received while residing in Puerto Rico during the taxable year of such change of residence.[21]

[Grey Fox]

A fringe Quebec provincial party campaigns on having Quebec join the USA. They believe our invitation still stands to this day.

they're ok with getting the Louisiana treatment?

Why would we get the Louisiana treatment?

US Federal rights & obligations are vastly different from the Canada federal one. I am of the opinion that Quebec has US state would be more respected than has a Canadian province.

While we laugh at Puerto Rico and it's statelessness. Has a US territory it gets lots advantages Quebec would love to have & keeps the ability to become a independent country at any moment.

OK, so I know this isn't necessarily your position, but why would Quebec as an American territory be more respected and get more advantages?

Only one I can think of is no federal income tax - although I understand that turns out to not be such a great deal at the end of the day.

Well, like you said #1 is unimpeded access to the US markets. Ability to have our own criminal code, Quebec (and the other provinces could drop french) english has a official language when local government is concerned. Ability to disband the english schoolboards.

Hydro-Quebec is a big exporter to the New England region but it always gets strong headwind because it's not American. That would fix that.

It would ease economic hardship from Upstate NY to Maine because now without a border Montreal is much closer than NYC/Boston.

[Valmy]

Right - but not one most PR residents are required to pay.

Ah gotcha. So Quebec go into Commonwealth status.

[Barrister]

Right - most PR residents are required to pay.

Ah gotcha. So Quebec go into Commonwealth status.

Why would you edit my quote to say the opposite of what I was saying?

[Habbaku]

I don't know that we need another territory that's poorer than Mississippi.

[Valmy]

Right - most PR residents are required to pay.

Ah gotcha. So Quebec go into Commonwealth status.

Why would you edit my quote to say the opposite of what I was saying?

Because I screwed up