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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Syt on December 01, 2024, 06:49:21 AMAnd the ass kissing is in full force, I suppose.
Zuckerberg asked Xi to name his unborn daughter. Xi, politely, declined.
Let's bomb Russia!

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 01, 2024, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 01, 2024, 06:49:21 AMAnd the ass kissing is in full force, I suppose.
Zuckerberg asked Xi to name his unborn daughter. Xi, politely, declined.

Xeezes

Norgy

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 01, 2024, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 01, 2024, 06:49:21 AMAnd the ass kissing is in full force, I suppose.
Zuckerberg asked Xi to name his unborn daughter. Xi, politely, declined.

Right. I'm definitely going back to radical anarchism, nihilism and just finding the best axe I can bring.

Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 01, 2024, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 01, 2024, 06:49:21 AMAnd the ass kissing is in full force, I suppose.
Zuckerberg asked Xi to name his unborn daughter. Xi, politely, declined.

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Norgy on December 02, 2024, 06:52:49 AMRight. I'm definitely going back to radical anarchism, nihilism and just finding the best axe I can bring.
:lol:

I always find it very striking how these are all tech masters of the universe in the West that all our states try to accommodate. But, when confronted with (authoritarian) state power, they're so supine. I feel like there's a bit of learned helplessness going on.

Just nationalise Starlink or something, pour encourager les autres.
Let's bomb Russia!

DGuller

Frankly, I have a hard time feeling outraged over this.  Clearly this isn't a good act, but it's not like good acts get rewarded in our system these days.  If I were Joe Biden, would I be comfortable leaving my son exposed to legal vendettas?  My son would probably be of no interest to anyone once I'm gone, but do I want to take that chance?

Barrister

Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2024, 05:23:41 PMFrankly, I have a hard time feeling outraged over this.  Clearly this isn't a good act, but it's not like good acts get rewarded in our system these days.  If I were Joe Biden, would I be comfortable leaving my son exposed to legal vendettas?  My son would probably be of no interest to anyone once I'm gone, but do I want to take that chance?

I'm largely the same - but not a little bit of outrage?

Biden did promise, repeatedly, to not pardon his son.  But Biden doing so he now gives Trump all kinds of cover when he pardons anyone and everyone associated with him.
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crazy canuck

If the reason for acting ethically is being rewarded, then the system has already failed.

Valmy

Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2024, 05:23:41 PMFrankly, I have a hard time feeling outraged over this.  Clearly this isn't a good act, but it's not like good acts get rewarded in our system these days.  If I were Joe Biden, would I be comfortable leaving my son exposed to legal vendettas?  My son would probably be of no interest to anyone once I'm gone, but do I want to take that chance?

Am I outraged by it? Am I surprised by it?

No.

Do I find it disappointing? Am I annoyed by this now traditional misuse of the pardon? Yes.

It is an obviously corrupt act and a misuse of the pardon power. But it is one that has been done by Presidents this century. I think BB is correct that George HW Bush and Bill Clinton started this thing. Though it looks like Carter did a bit of it as well.

Again Joe said he wouldn't pardon Hunter.
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2024, 05:31:57 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2024, 05:23:41 PMFrankly, I have a hard time feeling outraged over this.  Clearly this isn't a good act, but it's not like good acts get rewarded in our system these days.  If I were Joe Biden, would I be comfortable leaving my son exposed to legal vendettas?  My son would probably be of no interest to anyone once I'm gone, but do I want to take that chance?

I'm largely the same - but not a little bit of outrage?

Biden did promise, repeatedly, to not pardon his son.  But Biden doing so he now gives Trump all kinds of cover when he pardons anyone and everyone associated with him.

Trump isn't bothered by presence or absence of cover. The man will do as he pleases and no accusation will stick to his orange Teflon Armour.  <_<

Josquius

Given the election victory of a guy who boasted of how he was going to abuse the courts to take down anyone who looked at him funny... I don't blame Biden for saving his kid.
Hunter got in trouble for who he was, would never have faced this if he wasnt Bidens son, so it's only right he gets out of it the same way.

It providing cover for trump-Meh. They were going to do what they wanted anyway and clearly people dont care. 2028 won't be won on arguments over democracy.
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2024, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2024, 05:23:41 PMFrankly, I have a hard time feeling outraged over this.  Clearly this isn't a good act, but it's not like good acts get rewarded in our system these days.  If I were Joe Biden, would I be comfortable leaving my son exposed to legal vendettas?  My son would probably be of no interest to anyone once I'm gone, but do I want to take that chance?

Am I outraged by it? Am I surprised by it?

No.

Do I find it disappointing? Am I annoyed by this now traditional misuse of the pardon? Yes.

It is an obviously corrupt act and a misuse of the pardon power. But it is one that has been done by Presidents this century. I think BB is correct that George HW Bush and Bill Clinton started this thing. Though it looks like Carter did a bit of it as well.

Again Joe said he wouldn't pardon Hunter.

That Carter pardon of Peter Yarrow is really quiet weird (but not in a good way).  There's no particular connection between Carter and Yarrow - other than the fact that Peter, Paul and Mary were tied into Democratic Party politics (Yarrow himself was married to Eugene McCarthy's niece).

But it also seems to be the only Presidential pardon for sexually abusing a minor.

TO be clear Yarrow had served his sentence 10 years earlier (which by itself seemed crazily low - he served 3 months).
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