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New Paradox Tinto Game - "Project Caesar"

Started by Syt, February 28, 2024, 12:27:05 PM

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Solmyr

Next they'll be telling us that the trade flow system from EU4 will remain unchanged. :P

Josquius

The mask is slipping. Just call it eu5 already.

On peace for both sides - I can imagine where this causes trouble with the AI. But yes. Would be good to see. Maybe put heavy restrictions on it so you can't give away cores in this way, can only gain cores or minor colonial possessions, and so on?
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Tamas

I still think there is no confidence in Johan to spend the EU5 brand on this until he has proven it's actually a solid game.

garbon

How does this accomplish that? We also all no it is that brand so ruse seems at best paper thin.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Josquius

I guess its all marketing people looking at EU4's sales figures.
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Tamas

Quote from: garbon on October 04, 2024, 03:52:57 AMHow does this accomplish that? We also all no it is that brand so ruse seems at best paper thin.

It can still be called something else: Europa Imperiatoris or somesuch

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on October 04, 2024, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 04, 2024, 03:52:57 AMHow does this accomplish that? We also all no it is that brand so ruse seems at best paper thin.

It can still be called something else: Europa Imperiatoris or somesuch

Maybe but would definitely cause confusion and dilute sales if EU5 separately comes out at some point.

Overall it just strikes me as really weird.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

Well I can't think of any other reason why this isn't yet branded as EU5.

The Brain

Maybe moving away from a brand that can be seen as Eurocentric? And Crusader Kings 4 might not be called Crusader Kings 4.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2024, 07:06:28 AMMaybe moving away from a brand that can be seen as Eurocentric? And Crusader Kings 4 might not be called Crusader Kings 4.

Then just give it a new name already. This we have confidence but also don't have confidence in what is being designed is odd.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Josquius

We've all seen the recent paradox interview I suppose about how much of a cluster fuck things have been lately?

Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2024, 07:06:28 AMMaybe moving away from a brand that can be seen as Eurocentric? And Crusader Kings 4 might not be called Crusader Kings 4.
Surprised they haven't done this already TBH. Its been clear for a while that CK has attracted a rather unsavoury element to its fanbase.
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Tamas

Quote from: Josquius on October 10, 2024, 09:29:24 AMWe've all seen the recent paradox interview I suppose about how much of a cluster fuck things have been lately?

Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2024, 07:06:28 AMMaybe moving away from a brand that can be seen as Eurocentric? And Crusader Kings 4 might not be called Crusader Kings 4.
Surprised they haven't done this already TBH. Its been clear for a while that CK has attracted a rather unsavoury element to its fanbase.

CK? It was HOI about twenty years ago.

Valmy

I was about to say. Before HoI the most we had was weird Euro nationalists trying to relive the quasi-legendary medieval history of the Kingdom of Serbia or whatever. The real nuts didn't show up until HoI came around.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Josquius

I dunno. Expected they'd be there with a Ww2 game. I guess Ww2 being such a well known and popular topic meant the scum there were pretty common already.
Also being pro actual nazis... Not much of an issue in the modern day. Most far right folk try to distance themselves from them as hard as they can as they know it's a bad look.
CK meanwhile really feeds the islamophobes. Far more of an active issue today.
Considering the middle ages weren't half so popular either....
 I do think that really brought something other games hadn't yet.
You never heard deus vult pre CK.
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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.