Millennia - 4X Civ Like published by Paradox

[Josephus]

Reviews not too kind

[Syt]

Yeah, very mixed. I pre-bought it (because I can't be trusted to have access to disposable income ), though not sure I will dig into it before the weekend.

[Tamas]

The positive Youtube reviews almost convinced me to ignore the negative ones, then one of the mentioned there's already a DLC confirmed adding nuclear weapons i.e. nuclear power is not in the base game (but visiting UFOs are). Pass.

[Josephus]

Thing with YouTubers, though, is I find some, not all, are fanboys who want to please their masters.

[crazy canuck]

If I get this it will be when it on sale at a deep discount.  I was not a fan of the demo.  It felt like a great game, for the early 2000s.

[chipwich]

This is excellent. It's the first 4x in a long time where I'm not listening to an audiobook since there are so many nuanced decisions to make.

[Tamas]

Nuclear. Power. Only. In. DLC.

[chipwich]

I don't think I've ever used nukes in a civ game. The tempo of play doesn't support it.

[crazy canuck]

This is excellent. It's the first 4x in a long time where I'm not listening to an audiobook since there are so many nuanced decisions to make.

Thanks for being our playtester  What are some of the examples that don't occur in other 4x games?

[Tamas]

I don't think I've ever used nukes in a civ game. The tempo of play doesn't support it.

It's the principle.

[chipwich]

This is excellent. It's the first 4x in a long time where I'm not listening to an audiobook since there are so many nuanced decisions to make.

Thanks for being our playtester  What are some of the examples that don't occur in other 4x games?

The Building chains- It's like an Anno game in a Civ game

Alternate ages- Warps plans and makes playthroughs different.

Victory conditions are unpredictable, not like civ where you implicitly choose at the start of the game based on your civ bonus.

A nuanced anti-rapid expansion system that involves punishing events and hard choices about spending your precious Government mana.

I will emphasize that it's $40

[crazy canuck]

This is excellent. It's the first 4x in a long time where I'm not listening to an audiobook since there are so many nuanced decisions to make.

Thanks for being our playtester  What are some of the examples that don't occur in other 4x games?

The Building chains- It's like an Anno game in a Civ game

Alternate ages- Warps plans and makes playthroughs different.

Victory conditions are unpredictable, not like civ where you implicitly choose at the start of the game based on your civ bonus.

A nuanced anti-rapid expansion system that involves punishing events and hard choices about spending your precious Government mana.

I will emphasize that it's $40

Thanks, taking it for a spin now - I am liking it.  When I tried the demo I rushed through it a bit and didn't take enough time to understand all the mechanics.  You are right, a lot of decisions and the need to balance those decisions.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I am also enjoying it. About three hours in, which is more than I ever managed for civ6 

At this time it is impossible to say how long it will hold my attention; but its the cost of a decent lunch so even if it ends up only being 20 hours total I will be satisfied 

[crazy canuck]

I am getting addicted to this.  I really like how strategies are not locked in and there is no obvious best strategy for a given set of tiles.  I also like how this can turn into a city building game as much as a four x game. 

[The Minsky Moment]

Nuclear. Power. Only. In. DLC.

So basically it's simulating our world since Fukushima.