What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[jimmy olsen]

Yikes!

https://mobile.twitter.com/cbouzy/status/1565706744453545988

New: The inventory list of materials seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago was unsealed, and the first thing that caught my attention was the 43 empty folders with classified banners.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1565710826039812097

In Trump's personal office alone, the FBI found:

- 1,467 unclassified government documents/photographs
- 43 empty CLASSIFIED folders
- 28 empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders
- 17 SECRET documents
- 7 TOP SECRET documents
- 3 CONFIDENTIAL documents

[alfred russel]

Yikes!

https://mobile.twitter.com/cbouzy/status/1565706744453545988

New: The inventory list of materials seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago was unsealed, and the first thing that caught my attention was the 43 empty folders with classified banners.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1565710826039812097

In Trump's personal office alone, the FBI found:

- 1,467 unclassified government documents/photographs
- 43 empty CLASSIFIED folders
- 28 empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders
- 17 SECRET documents
- 7 TOP SECRET documents
- 3 CONFIDENTIAL documents

The obvious questions I have:

-why are empty folders considered classified? seems like when they became empty their classification should have been revisited: too much is classified and the government doesn't seem diligent about declassifying stuff.
-Did the empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders had the contents returned?

[Berkut]

Yikes!

https://mobile.twitter.com/cbouzy/status/1565706744453545988

New: The inventory list of materials seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago was unsealed, and the first thing that caught my attention was the 43 empty folders with classified banners.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1565710826039812097

In Trump's personal office alone, the FBI found:

- 1,467 unclassified government documents/photographs
- 43 empty CLASSIFIED folders
- 28 empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders
- 17 SECRET documents
- 7 TOP SECRET documents
- 3 CONFIDENTIAL documents

The obvious questions I have:

-why are empty folders considered classified? seems like when they became empty their classification should have been revisited: too much is classified and the government doesn't seem diligent about declassifying stuff.
-Did the empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders had the contents returned?

I think the much, much, MUCH more obvious question is "What happened to the actual classified documents that were in those classified folders?"

[garbon]

Yikes!

https://mobile.twitter.com/cbouzy/status/1565706744453545988

New: The inventory list of materials seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago was unsealed, and the first thing that caught my attention was the 43 empty folders with classified banners.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1565710826039812097

In Trump's personal office alone, the FBI found:

- 1,467 unclassified government documents/photographs
- 43 empty CLASSIFIED folders
- 28 empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders
- 17 SECRET documents
- 7 TOP SECRET documents
- 3 CONFIDENTIAL documents

The obvious questions I have:

-why are empty folders considered classified? seems like when they became empty their classification should have been revisited: too much is classified and the government doesn't seem diligent about declassifying stuff.
-Did the empty "Return to staff secretary/miliary aide" folders had the contents returned?

I think the much, much, MUCH more obvious question is "What happened to the actual classified documents that were in those classified folders?"

[The Minsky Moment]

None of those TS/SCI sheets has the name of the program stamped on it (the programs are the "compartment" part of SCI; you can only access programs which you have been "read into").  The cover sheets I have seen have the program name stamped on them so that a reader can know whether they are authorized to access that document or not.

Presumably the program names themselves are confidential and thus would have to be redacted from any photo.  I don't see any redactions on the yellow cover sheets (and the sheets say at the bottom that the cover sheet itself is unclassified).  However, the open document in front of the "2A" sign has a redaction at the top that I would presume covers the program name.

[The Larch]

Folder marked 'classified' apparently on display at Trump 45-themed bar

Tucked in the lobby of Manhattan's Trump Tower is a bar called 45 Wine and Whiskey. At this Hard Rock Cafe knockoff, visitors can enjoy walls plastered with Trump presidential memorabilia that was likely snuck out of the White House—including a folder marked "classified."

[grumbler]

Folder marked 'classified' apparently on display at Trump 45-themed bar

Tucked in the lobby of Manhattan's Trump Tower is a bar called 45 Wine and Whiskey. At this Hard Rock Cafe knockoff, visitors can enjoy walls plastered with Trump presidential memorabilia that was likely snuck out of the White House—including a folder marked "classified."

"Classified" isn't a security classification.  They could have a folder marker "SuperDuper Secret" and that still wouldn't be an actual classified documents folder.

[Syt]

[CountDeMoney]

Trump Wins Bid for 'Special Master' for Mar-a-Lago Records

•   Judge also blocked DOJ from using documents in criminal probe
•   She said Trump had shown need for 'procedural safeguards'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-05/judge-grants-trump-request-for-special-master-records-review?srnd=premium

[CountDeMoney]

Doesn't matter. Just something else he'll get away with. Again.
Shame people can't seem to get this lesson through their fucking heads. 

Might as well leave them all there, he'll get them back in 2024 anyway.

[Tamas]

executive interest?! WTF?!

[garbon]

Doesn't matter. Just something else he'll get away with. Again.
Shame people can't seem to get this lesson through their fucking heads. 

Might as well leave them all there, he'll get them back in 2024 anyway.

Maybe try this in 2024.

[The Minsky Moment]

What a shit show.  It's what you get when the sole qualification for judicial office is absolute fealty to the Federalist Society and as little actual legal experience as possible that could sully ideological purity in favor of competent legal argument.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't see the problem.  So a special master goes through the docs and decides which ones the FBI should have left, like the passports.  So what?  He/she is not going to make the classified stuff and National Archives stuff disappear.

[Sheilbh]

Isn't the issue that it's legally wrong? My understanding is they're appointed to make a decision on arguably privileged material, so that the trial judge isn't exposed to that.

There is, from what I've read, no legal basis for saying these documents are privileged. Trump's lawyers are claiming that the docs are covered by executive privilege for Trump (who is, crucially, no longer the executive) on fairly flimsy grounds - but the judge is biting.

It's a slightly concerning straw in the wind.