Routine Shootings at US Schools and Universities Megathread.

[DGuller]

[Gups]

Noteworthy that race hasn't entered into the Texas shooting discussion.

I foolishly looked at Breibart comments and the shooter being brown was the only thing they taled about

[Darth Wagtaros]

Noteworthy that race hasn't entered into the Texas shooting discussion.

I foolishly looked at Breibart comments and the shooter being brown was the only thing they taled about

The first days after the standard thing was "He was an illlegal immigrant we must secure the border!!!!!!!"

[Valmy]

Armed female bystander kills man firing at party in West Virginia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61615236

Apparently some soccer mommy gave the republicans wank material for decades to come.

Yeah, heard about this, seems to be getting splashed about all over in response to the school shooting

I mean sure that does happen but you never know how people are going to respond to a high stress situation like that. Even soldiers who have spent months or years for battle will freeze up under fire. Simply having armed people around is not guarantee of security, especially as the nut job will get the first shots. And these nuts are expecting to die, being killed is not really a deterrent.

[The Brain]

This song kind of disappeared, the issue overshadowed by Covid and GOP coup attempts. Sadly it seems relevant again.

[viper37]

I'm having a hard time with this one.  They keep showing photos of these kids.  Little girl who looks dressed up for first communion, pictures like that.  It's just too much.  Can't watch it.  I really wish there was something I could do to prevent these things from happening.

You can vote and organize for the Democratic party. That's about it.

Mancin is a Democrat, and he does not want more gun control than there is now.

[crazy canuck]

I would say it didn't amount to fuck all at all.

They did go in. Several of them followed the shooter into the school, and they did neutralize him and did save several lives in the process.

I would say that you don't need that much training to do the bare minimum expected of your job.

There is a piece in the New York Times written by the person who developed the FBI training for active shooting events.


"Current protocol and best practices say officers must persistently pursue efforts to neutralize a shooter when a shooting is underway. This is true even if only one officer is present. This is without question the right approach."

The writer then goes on to describe that the problem is likely that police officers undertake the training to tick a box and never really mentally prepare themselves for what what they must do in those high stress situations.

[viper37]

I would say it didn't amount to fuck all at all.

They did go in. Several of them followed the shooter into the school, and they did neutralize him and did save several lives in the process.

I would say that you don't need that much training to do the bare minimum expected of your job.

There is a piece in the New York Times written by the person who developed the FBI training for active shooting events.


"Current protocol and best practices say officers must persistently pursue efforts to neutralize a shooter when a shooting is underway. This is true even if only one officer is present. This is without question the right approach."

The writer then goes on to describe that the problem is likely that police officers undertake the training to tick a box and never really mentally prepare themselves for what what they must do in those high stress situations.

Dawson College comes to mind.  The officers were already on site, but they weren't armed with anything else than their usual service weapon, a 9mm.  As soon as they heard the first shot, they ran toward it and eventually confronted the shooter, wounded him and he took his own life.  One dead, 17-18 injured, but it could have been much worst, had they hesitated or not been already in the site.

A similar scene was reproduced in the Canadian tv show 19-2, in English and French.

[11B4V]

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/05/31/uvalde-police-lied-a-teacher-never-left-the-door-open.html

[Sheilbh]

Reports that Uvalde police are also going to stop cooperating with the state investigation into the shooting.

Again they're a public service who should be accountable.

[Razgovory]

Police should never have the option to refuse to cooperate.

[grumbler]

Reports that Uvalde police are also going to stop cooperating with the state investigation into the shooting.

Again they're a public service who should be accountable.

They can and probably should take the Fifth.  The state can provide temporary law enforcement assistance while the Uvalde police are suspended with pay, pending charges (afterwards it will be without pay).

It will be interesting to hear what actually happened, rather than the police lies about it.

You'd think that, if they decided that they were going to lie about it, they'd come up with a lie that didn't make them look like incompetent cowards.

[Eddie Teach]

I'm having a hard time with this one.  They keep showing photos of these kids.  Little girl who looks dressed up for first communion, pictures like that.  It's just too much.  Can't watch it.  I really wish there was something I could do to prevent these things from happening.

You can vote and organize for the Democratic party. That's about it.

Mancin is a Democrat, and he does not want more gun control than there is now.

If you elect more Democrats, you don't need every single one to pass legislation.

[jimmy olsen]

This song kind of disappeared, the issue overshadowed by Covid and GOP coup attempts. Sadly it seems relevant again.

I missed that song the first time around. Eminem still has it...damn...

A similar scene was reproduced in the Canadian tv show 19-2, in English and French.

Damn that was super intense, disturbing and well made. Is the rest of this show that good?

[Eddie Teach]

It's not a fun song.