The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[merithyn]

Why is Portland ground zero for these protests, a city with very few black people? 

We have very few black people?

[Eddie Teach]

Yes. Under 3% is very few.

[DGuller]

That's a really bullshit argument.  I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, I'm just being a janitor for garbage arguments.  Usually the person being murdered is the one dealing out the property damage, whereas the person whose property is damaged usually has absolutely nothing to do with the murder.  No one (yet) is going through the minority neighborhoods and randomly shooting at inhabitants there in response to the property damage caused by riots.

It would be a bullshit argument if it was an argument.

What was it then?

[Tamas]

Video:

https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1299783390573465600?s=20

Is this noncompliance?

We were told, noncompliance is a death sentence. I need an explanation.

lol damn. You should link this under your sister's next "well just do what the police tells you and you won't be shot" post.

[Tonitrus]

To be fair(?), pretty sure that's a taser, not his firearm.  (if that is his service weapon, that's a dumbass way to hold it)

[Eddie Teach]

So a cop used his discretion and didn't kill someone. Clearly that says something about the others?

[merithyn]

Yes. Under 3% is very few.

Well, it's 6.3% in Portland, which equates to over 40,000 people. That's not exactly "very few".

On top of that,  Portland has a long history of white supremacy. For the past decade, the city has been trying to end their racist policies and practices, usually due to protests.  So, based on that, it's not at all surprising this is happening here.

[merithyn]

This is the guy who was shot. He was interviewed when he came to Portland in 2017 to defend the white supremacist who killed two people with a knife on the Max.

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/10/08/19375638/a-man-had-a-gun-stowed-in-his-scooter-at-todays-patriot-prayer-rally-he-was-arrested

[Sophie Scholl]

To paraphrase his own words to be about him, he is "not a hero, he's not anybody to be idolized, and he deserved everything that he got."

[11B4V]

So, you're hinting that he should have been shot.

[garbon]

Yes. Under 3% is very few.

Well, it's 6.3% in Portland, which equates to over 40,000 people. That's not exactly "very few".

On top of that,  Portland has a long history of white supremacy. For the past decade, the city has been trying to end their racist policies and practices, usually due to protests.  So, based on that, it's not at all surprising this is happening here.

6% of the population is a rather low percentage. The very low about of diversity (and specifically black people) is one of the things that both of my sisters noted about their time living there.

From wiki:

In 2009, Portland had the fifth-highest percentage of white residents among the 40 largest U.S. metropolitan areas. A 2007 survey of the 40 largest cities in the U.S. concluded Portland's urban core has the highest percentage of white residents. Some scholars have noted the Pacific Northwest as a whole is "one of the last Caucasian bastions of the United States". While Portland's diversity was historically comparable to metro Seattle and Salt Lake City, those areas grew more diverse in the late 1990s and 2000s. Portland not only remains white, but migration to Portland is disproportionately white.

[Sophie Scholl]

So, you're hinting that he should have been shot.

I'm hinting that the guy is, sorry, was a piece of trash and, while I don't think he deserved to die, I won't be mourning him.

[Tamas]

So a cop used his discretion and didn't kill someone. Clearly that says something about the others?

TBF I am sure there are instances of a black dude yelling insults straight into a cop's face for minutes without him being arrested let alone shot, but you have to be really wilfully obtuse to not see the irony in that scene.

Anyways, I saw a news report of one of these Portland pro-Trump demonstrators being shot in some incident but once again it was a Hungarian source who knows what actually happened.


Things seem to be slowly but steadily escalating over there, I am not sure what it will take to de-escalate. Even if Trump loses he will remain a catalyst and leader for the fucktards to feel emboldened into activity,I am hoping the federal state will be quick to adopt better policies in dealing with all this once he is out so there will be a chance for improvement at least with thus Russian asset no longer debilitating the country.  And if he wins then I just don't see how you can go another 4 years of this without some serious violence.

[merithyn]

Yes. Under 3% is very few.

Well, it's 6.3% in Portland, which equates to over 40,000 people. That's not exactly "very few".

On top of that,  Portland has a long history of white supremacy. For the past decade, the city has been trying to end their racist policies and practices, usually due to protests.  So, based on that, it's not at all surprising this is happening here.

6% of the population is a rather low percentage. The very low about of diversity (and specifically black people) is one of the things that both of my sisters noted about their time living there.

From wiki:

In 2009, Portland had the fifth-highest percentage of white residents among the 40 largest U.S. metropolitan areas. A 2007 survey of the 40 largest cities in the U.S. concluded Portland's urban core has the highest percentage of white residents. Some scholars have noted the Pacific Northwest as a whole is "one of the last Caucasian bastions of the United States". While Portland's diversity was historically comparable to metro Seattle and Salt Lake City, those areas grew more diverse in the late 1990s and 2000s. Portland not only remains white, but migration to Portland is disproportionately white.

40,000 people who have been systemically abused by the system are still 40,000 people fighting. On top of that, you get the liberal Whites out there with them, which is most of the rest of the city.

There has been a massive push against the PPB for a while because of how they treat Black people. And white supremacy is all around the city; they often come into the city for marches and protests. That means that those who are here who believe in equality are already "geared up and ready for a fight".

It's not the numbers of minorities that is why it's the epicenter of all of this. It's the history of where they've already come from and what's already been done.

As for the numbers, I admit that I live on the edge of the city where the population is far more mixed than downtown or near the SW suburbs, so I have a different view of how whitewashed the city is. That's intentional. I felt incredibly uncomfortable in one of the other neighborhoods that I lived in. It was one that used to be the red-lined black neighborhood until white people started buying the houses up cheap and forcing the black families out to the edges of the city.

[merithyn]

Anyways, I saw a news report of one of these Portland pro-Trump demonstrators being shot in some incident but once again it was a Hungarian source who knows what actually happened.

I posted an article further up that this happened.