Quote from: Tonitrus on November 19, 2025, 03:46:50 PMThat being said, I would actually be surprised if Putin decides to move against NATO/the Baltics. I think he will provoke and prod (ala the sabotage in Poland) as much as he can get away with short of open conflict.
I am far more worried about whomever takes over the Russian state when Putin dies.
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 19, 2025, 02:13:04 PMSweden amazes me and really emasculates Canada. It's a country with the population of Ontario that does so much more than we do. Tanks, Planes, Submarines, actual technology companies.
QuoteRussian spy ship pointed lasers at RAF pilots tracking it, says UK
2 hours ago
Brian Wheeler,Political reporter and Paul Seddon,Political reporter
A Russian spy ship has used lasers for the first time to disrupt RAF pilots tracking its activity near UK waters, the defence secretary has said.
John Healey told reporters the "deeply dangerous" move from the Yantar was being taken "extremely seriously" by the government.
He added that the vessel was north of Scotland and had entered UK waters for the second time this year during the last few weeks.
Quote from: Tamas on November 19, 2025, 02:39:52 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on November 19, 2025, 02:21:50 PMYeah it would be a big shift here because national service has basically always been temporary (conscription, like standing armies, are obviously historically associated with continental tyranny and Popery) - so we last had it from 1939 and started gradually getting rid of it in the late 50s and it was gone by the early 60s.
But I think there's reason enough - both Russia's behaviour in Europe, challenges recruiting into the forces, social divisions etc - that make me think it might be something we need to do. Hopefully, again, temporarily.
What would be the point for the UK? Wouldn't we be nuking Russia if they land on the island? Similarly, if a mass conscripted army is needed on the continent, nukes will be flying by then.
It MAY be necessary for a country like Germany (defo for Baltic States for example) but I can't shake the feeling you guys are so gung ho about it because you are too old to be called up.
Quote from: Jacob on November 19, 2025, 01:55:42 PMQuote from: Bauer on November 19, 2025, 01:49:19 PMFrom a geopolitical standpoint I think a Canada Sweden partnership would be huge. Small and medium sized countries can do so much more together without taking bad deals from the giants.
Not quite a movement of non-aligned countries, but a "hey we still believe in Western Democratic values and we'll do well to work together" type thing.
Quote from: Tamas on November 19, 2025, 02:39:52 PMWhat would be the point for the UK? Wouldn't we be nuking Russia if they land on the island? Similarly, if a mass conscripted army is needed on the continent, nukes will be flying by then.
It MAY be necessary for a country like Germany (defo for Baltic States for example) but I can't shake the feeling you guys are so gung ho about it because you are too old to be called up.

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 19, 2025, 02:21:50 PMYeah it would be a big shift here because national service has basically always been temporary (conscription, like standing armies, are obviously historically associated with continental tyranny and Popery) - so we last had it from 1939 and started gradually getting rid of it in the late 50s and it was gone by the early 60s.
But I think there's reason enough - both Russia's behaviour in Europe, challenges recruiting into the forces, social divisions etc - that make me think it might be something we need to do. Hopefully, again, temporarily.

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