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#71
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - December 30, 2025, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:54:40 AMI thought Bangladesh had repeatedly stated she was not a Bangladeshi citizen and UK gov said whatevs.
Yeah. You can't make a person stateless - so there's always been powers to revoke citizenship of a dual national (arguably the main/only big risk of being dual national?). I think the change with Begum was that they interpreted that as also applying if someone is entitled to another citizenship so whether she had Bangladeshi citizenship or not wasn't relevant because she was entitled to it. On the same measure Egypt could have stripped El Fattah of citizenship and deported him to the UK.

I'm really uncomfortable with the decision on Begum (and Jack Letts for that matter) - I think it was wrong. I think she was British. She was born and raised in this country and she went to Syria to join ISIS. She was also 15. She was groomed, trafficked, raped and had 3 children (all dead) by her "husband" before she was 19. I'd add that the person who recruited her and got her into Syria was also an asset for Canadian intelligence so quite possibly decisions were made allowing young kids from Western countries to be trafficked to keep that intelligence source alive. But I think whatever else, she is our responsibility and it's wrong for us to dump that on Iraq or Syria or Bangladesh. It's rare I agree wholeheartedly with Jacob Rees-Mogg on anything but he's actually written a few really good pieces on this and I do totally with him on it.
#72
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by PJL - December 30, 2025, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: PJL on December 30, 2025, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?

She had dual Bangladeshi & British citizenship, and we stripped our side first.
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: PJL on December 30, 2025, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?

She had dual Bangladeshi & British citizenship, and we stripped our side first.

I thought Bangladesh had repeatedly stated she was not a Bangladeshi citizen and UK gov said whatevs.
I thought Bangladesh had repeatedly
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: PJL on December 30, 2025, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?

She had dual Bangladeshi & British citizenship, and we stripped our side first.

I thought Bangladesh had repeatedly stated she was not a Bangladeshi citizen and UK gov said whatevs.
stated she was not a Bangladeshi citizen and UK gov said whatevs.

Home Office lawyers thought otherwise, so you need to ask them about i
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: PJL on December 30, 2025, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?

She had dual Bangladeshi & British citizenship, and we stripped our side first.

I thought Bangladesh had repeatedly stated she was not a Bangladeshi citizen and UK gov said whatevs.

People under the age of 21 are automatically given Bangladeshi citizenship if one of their parents are also Bangladeshi. She was 19 when UK citizenship was revoked.
#73
Off the Record / Re: Youtube Recommendations
Last post by Norgy - December 30, 2025, 10:01:13 AM

It somehow seems like YouTube is filling the void left by forums where Americans used by flabbergasted by weird Europe. In this case, football fans.
#74
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by garbon - December 30, 2025, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: PJL on December 30, 2025, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?

She had dual Bangladeshi & British citizenship, and we stripped our side first.

I thought Bangladesh had repeatedly stated she was not a Bangladeshi citizen and UK gov said whatevs.
#75
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by HVC - December 30, 2025, 09:54:31 AM
So, based on social media latest season of stranger things sucks, huh?
#76
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by PJL - December 30, 2025, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?

She had dual Bangladeshi & British citizenship, and we stripped our side first.
#77
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by garbon - December 30, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 30, 2025, 09:21:53 AMGonna be a race to strip him of citzrnship, isn't it? UK can't do it if egypt does it first, right? And vice versa. Can't leave someone stateless?

Shamima?
#78
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by Habbaku - December 30, 2025, 09:38:53 AM
Quick and dirty while I sip coffee:

Marty Supreme: 9.5/10, showcasing which of the Safdie Brothers has/had all the talent. Want to watch again ASAP.

The Chair Company: Tim Robinson finally connects with my humor bone. Couldn't get enough. I'm at my limit. 9 mattresses in a hallway out of 10.

Train Dreams: Quiet, thoughtful, and poignant. Beautiful film, enough to make me read the book.
#79
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by Habbaku - December 30, 2025, 09:36:43 AM
Quitting OBAA after 15 minutes is an indictment on the viewer, not the viewed.
#80
Gaming HQ / Re: What are you playing? (Red...
Last post by Darth Wagtaros - December 30, 2025, 09:25:06 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 18, 2013, 07:30:27 PMEternal Sonata on the PS3. Was told it was a good RPG and I really felt like an old school RPG. It is...bizzare. Set in Chopin's head during his dying moments. No really. The classical music fanboyism you get in japan is strange stuff. Fairly fun so far though the plot seems pretty uninspiring- being told from the get go that anything you do will be meaningless as nothing is real....yeah.

King of Dragon Pass on the PC. Quite fun for a while but then suddenly foot shortages became regular and impossible to fix, my people starved. Which was a big anti-climax. Reading guides apparently you have to invest heavily into sacrificing to crops related gods. Shame I have to start again, was enjoying it.

I note Cities in Motion 2 was released recently. Don't have it yet though must investigate!
I got 3 quarters throuhg Eternal Sonata and then the damn game got corrupted.  Like something at that point on the disc just stopped. Ienjoyed it. Was weird. King of Dragon Pass was similar experience to yours.