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#51
Off the Record / Re: The AI dooooooom thread
Last post by The Minsky Moment - December 02, 2025, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 02, 2025, 10:21:55 AMPoor Ming  :(

They weren't so nice to Yu an others.
#52
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by crazy canuck - December 02, 2025, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2025, 08:40:43 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2025, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2025, 02:01:52 AMStill if the "surrender" news came just before they went to print they could had put a question mark at the end of the headline news but they didn't because as HVC wrote they went for the "clickbait"

By that logic all headlines should have question marks. All reporting is based on what is known at the time the report is published.

If you are published weekly and a major news item JUST lands before you go to print perhaps indicate that fact? But no, a grabbing headline was just as important back then as it is now. That's my point. Grab the attention, clarify/disclaimer later. Just as nowadays. Same standards.

I can tell that you came of age during the time when communications were instantaneous.

When I began practising law, we still relied on something called the postal acceptance rule.  I won't get into the details of what the rule was, but suffice it to say that it was necessary because communications were delayed by the time it took the post office to deliver a letter.

And that was in the early 90s. Think about how much more inefficient communications were during the time you are being critical of.
#53
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Oexmelin - December 02, 2025, 10:52:31 AM
Yes. They wrote and received letters, and had postal services. And yes, they had dated news, depending on the length of travel.
#54
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - December 02, 2025, 10:40:07 AM
Quote from: Josquius on December 02, 2025, 10:25:40 AMIt's interesting to think how papers would have worked in earlier times. Pre radio, pre telegram....
Something happened in the US!... Last week.

Aren't the oldest newspapers older than all these technologies? So we should be able to find out, at least to some extent
#55
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Jacob - December 02, 2025, 10:30:37 AM
The Daily Express (so yeah) reports that European leaders are considering dumping trillions of dollars of US debt if the US "sells out" Ukraine...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2140719/trump-ukraine-russia-peace-deal-europe
#56
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Josquius - December 02, 2025, 10:25:40 AM
It's interesting to think how papers would have worked in earlier times. Pre radio, pre telegram....
Something happened in the US!... Last week.
#57
Off the Record / Re: The AI dooooooom thread
Last post by Jacob - December 02, 2025, 10:21:55 AM
Poor Ming  :(
#58
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Jacob - December 02, 2025, 10:20:40 AM
Tamas, you ought to write their editor a letter.
#59
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Tamas - December 02, 2025, 08:40:43 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2025, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2025, 02:01:52 AMStill if the "surrender" news came just before they went to print they could had put a question mark at the end of the headline news but they didn't because as HVC wrote they went for the "clickbait"

By that logic all headlines should have question marks. All reporting is based on what is known at the time the report is published.

If you are published weekly and a major news item JUST lands before you go to print perhaps indicate that fact? But no, a grabbing headline was just as important back then as it is now. That's my point. Grab the attention, clarify/disclaimer later. Just as nowadays. Same standards.
#60
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by crazy canuck - December 02, 2025, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2025, 02:01:52 AMStill if the "surrender" news came just before they went to print they could had put a question mark at the end of the headline news but they didn't because as HVC wrote they went for the "clickbait"

By that logic all headlines should have question marks. All reporting is based on what is known at the time the report is published.