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#51
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Zoupa - November 22, 2025, 07:15:43 PM
Looking more and more likely that Witkoff is compromised.

Senator Mike Rounds:

"Secretary Rubio did make a phone call to us this afternoon. I think he made it very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation, it is not our peace plan. It is a proposal that was received. And as an intermediary, we have made arrangements to share it. And we did not release it. It was leaked. It was not released by our members or our representatives... This is an opportunity to receive it and that it has been utilized and delivered to the Ukrainians, and that they will have an opportunity to respond. And in doing so, you now have one side being presented and the opportunity for the other side to respond."

Fucking amateurs. This is active measures 101.
#52
Off the Record / Re: The AI dooooooom thread
Last post by The Minsky Moment - November 22, 2025, 06:42:39 PM
The tech companies don't cleanly fit into the old categories that applies to oil, steel, or chemicals.

Under the antitrust law, monopoly power means the power to impose a meaningful unilateral price increase without experiencing diversion.  The cases usually require proof of consumer harm, as in paying higher prices.  But that doesn't fit tech companies that offer "free" or inexpensive services as an attraction to get control over consumer data or consumer eyeballs.
#53
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?
Last post by Tonitrus - November 22, 2025, 04:30:31 PM
From what I can figure, it looks like the pension would be ~$1200-1300/month, but not until she is 62.

As Sav said, she'll rake in much more cash from the media circuit.  Heck, she'll likely have a show on Fox/OAN/some other fringe network in short order.
#54
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?
Last post by Savonarola - November 22, 2025, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2025, 02:17:07 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 21, 2025, 10:27:20 PMSpeaking of MTG, she just quit Congress after Trump called her a traitor.   :huh:  I don't understand the world anymore.

I'm not sure MTG puts much political calculus in anything she does, but I guess she wants to duck a nasty year for the GOP, and prime herself for the post-Trump years.

This is probably her best chance to cash in, as Valmy said she's eligible for her pension on January 5 and at the moment she's a media sensation (she's even been on The View) for defying Trump.  That's not going to last, so this is her best chance to join a cable news program or something along those lines.
#55
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?
Last post by Tonitrus - November 22, 2025, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2025, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 21, 2025, 10:27:20 PMSpeaking of MTG, she just quit Congress after Trump called her a traitor.   :huh:  I don't understand the world anymore.

She made her millions. She is retiring the day after her pension kicks in.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

I don't think she'll get it for another 12 years, and for just 5 years of service, it'll probably be fairly modest (but may still be higher than mine :hmm: ).
#56
Off the Record / Re: The AI dooooooom thread
Last post by Admiral Yi - November 22, 2025, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Josquius on November 22, 2025, 05:16:46 AMThat's a textbook definition. Regulators never apply monopoly as meaning literally the only supplier. More one that has massive dominance.
With over 90% of the search market for example Google absolutely fits the bill there.

But you seem to have missed the point of what I said here.
The horizontal integration isn't the problem. The problem is the vertical integration made possible by the horizontal integration.

Valmy seems to think the horizontal integration is the problem.  Otherwise why would he call for Google to be broken up?

Please explain what you mean by vertical integration and how it applies to Google.
#57
Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?
Last post by Savonarola - November 22, 2025, 04:18:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 21, 2025, 10:27:20 PMSpeaking of MTG, she just quit Congress after Trump called her a traitor.   :huh:  I don't understand the world anymore.

Now we'll never learn the truth about the Rothschild Space Laser, Hilary Clinton's Child Sex/Sacrifice video or NOAA controlling the weather.   :(
#58
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Syt - November 22, 2025, 04:06:29 PM
In the Space Captain Smith book "The God Emperor of Didcot" which largely is set on a planet that's essentially Space India/Afghanistan and which is a critical supply of tea for the war effort against the Ants, the British colonials use wallah-bots for menial work. :P
#59
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Grey Fox - November 22, 2025, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2025, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 22, 2025, 11:57:10 AMSo apparently the Russian Duma has rejected Trump's farcical peace plan, saying only total victory is acceptable.

Well that doesn't mean anything. What authority does that toothless body have?

Authority, none. But, what they say is what the Kremlin wants to say but doesn't.
#60
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - November 22, 2025, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2025, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on November 22, 2025, 02:34:45 PMThe left often enables the shitty religion though (Brussels is a nice example). And Mormons don't generally commit acts of mass terror a la Bataclan. Nor do the result in Christmas markets having to be secured with all matter of fences and concrete blocks.

Well I cannot speak for Euros but I don't see how we enable it any more than shitty versions of Christianity. Also our Christians are much shittier than yours and our country is just polluted with tons of insane cults of various degrees of dangerousness. All are perfectly enabled under our first amendment.

You want to make your kid basically a slave and a prisoner in your religious cult compound? With some very poorly enforced guidelines you can. Freedom baby.

But in Euro land I don't think you can do that. So I get the dynamics are different.


Very. It's both packets of religious fanatics. And those are always crap