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#51

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Zoupa - Today at 05:45:37 AM

More whataboutism. So no posts where you lament collateral damage to Palestinians from you then.

As I said previously, you are wholly unconcerned with civilian collateral victims as long as it's the IDF doing it.

The sympathy for Palestine is based on the antipathy people have for the guys fighting them.

Speaking for myself, I don't have "sympathy for Palestine"; I simply find the IDF's methods to be horrible and ineffective. Do you really think that Hamas can be defeated this way? The IDF is creating tomorrow's Hamas recruits by making a zillion people homeless, orphans etc. It's dumb.

#52

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 05:23:27 AM

I missed the part of the conversation when Raz said he's wholly unconcerned about Palestinian collateral damage.

I haven't seen one post where Raz states he's concerned about Palestinian collateral damage. I'm happy to be proven wrong if such posts exist.

Haven't seen a post by you where you showed any sympathy for the people killed on Oct 7th orr Josq either.  Mostly he argue about his poor understanding of the word "Semite" and his bewilderment that Hamas would do something like this.

You do have this quote though:

I see Israel has turned off the electricity, gas and water to Gaza. I was surprised there was any cross border of that stuff to begin with.

Once the military operation is over, they should seal that border completely. I don't see why Israel should provide anything to Gaza ever again.

Hey, you said it, not me.  https://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,16754.275.html#quickreply_anchor

#53

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 05:15:52 AM

I missed the part of the conversation when Raz said he's wholly unconcerned about Palestinian collateral damage.

I consider collateral damage to be an unfortunate side affect of war.  The same when we killed Germans civilians in WW2.  Or Iraqis or Syrians or Koreans, or Japanese, or whoever.  But when it comes to Palestinians the rules are somewhat different apparently.  As Zoupa said, he was fine with the Morgenthau plan to starve large numbers of Germans to death after the war.  Certainly those people aren't any more or less human than Palestinians.

In truth, I don't believe anyone thinks the Palestinians are special.  If an Arab power was killing them, it would not provoke breathless reporting or mass protests.  And certainly if the Palestinians were blowing up parts of Europe there would be little sympathy for them, we saw that with ISIS.  The sympathy for Palestine is based on the antipathy people have for the guys fighting them.

#54

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Zoupa - Today at 05:08:24 AM

I missed the part of the conversation when Raz said he's wholly unconcerned about Palestinian collateral damage.

I haven't seen one post where Raz states he's concerned about Palestinian collateral damage. I'm happy to be proven wrong if such posts exist.

#55

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 05:01:23 AM

Strange turnabout from Raz. I recall earlier he felt it important to go on about how many Israelis were of Arab descent, now they're white people?

I don't really care what colour they are. It's the actions that matter.

They are perceived as white, while this is not strictly speaking true.  It is true in the minds of the antizionists.  If it is the actions that matter, How did everyone decided that the Israelis are the ones to protest?  You'd think that it would be spread out more if was just based on actions.  Certainly the Israelis aren't the only ones who engage in actions worth protesting.  Yet it is the only country in the Middle East people demand be destroyed and it's population either removed or made into a vulnerable, disarmed minority.  Hell, even those that call for America destroyed don't normally demand that the population lose it's right to self determination or that be incorporated into another state.  That is really strange.

You say you don't care what color they are, but I got to wonder sometimes...

#56

Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by HVC - Today at 04:17:34 AM

As a good catholic boy (until like 13 lol) I always wondered why Monday was the holiday and not Good Friday.

*edit* since the real star of the show is already on a weekend.

#57

Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by Solmyr - Today at 03:50:31 AM

Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers (and a bit of John Oliver) are the late night show hosts whom I've been watching for years now. Worried for the others now...

#58

Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by Josquius - Today at 03:49:21 AM

France looking to scrap 2 public holidays to help balance the budget for public workers.

One of which is VE Day.
I guess they chose it purely because it's so soon after May Day.
But that they chose this over rather useless C tier Christian days.... The optics are bad.

VE Day had been removed previously under Giscard.

The other one is actually a usekess C tier Christian holiday. Easter Monday.

Easter is B tier

#59

Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 03:33:50 AM

France looking to scrap 2 public holidays to help balance the budget for public workers.

One of which is VE Day.
I guess they chose it purely because it's so soon after May Day.
But that they chose this over rather useless C tier Christian days.... The optics are bad.

VE Day had been removed previously under Giscard.

The other one is actually a usekess C tier Christian holiday. Easter Monday.

#60

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 02:21:41 AM

I missed the part of the conversation when Raz said he's wholly unconcerned about Palestinian collateral damage.