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#31
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Tamas - Today at 10:35:41 AMQuote from: Josephus on Today at 09:26:40 AMWasn't that long ago we were talking about finding an exit strategy that Putin can swallow. Now we're talking about how much land to give him. [sigh]
And unless the Ukrainians are in a more desperate situation than the public is being let known, it's hard to see why they'd agree to a conditional surrender where the condition granted to them is that their whole country will not be occupied right now, only later when Russia has been given the chance to regroup.
#32
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 09:33:41 AMQuote from: HVC on Today at 08:44:25 AMQuote from: Syt on Today at 08:26:32 AMThey look incredibly excited.
I imagine thats the look on most peoples faces when they visit northern England
#33
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 09:32:50 AMQuote from: Razgovory on November 18, 2025, 12:37:46 PMWhat does Wallah mean?
Swearing.
By God. (followed by I swear or a synonym). For the identity politics muslim crowd, using the name of God in vain, i.e blasphemy, is comical in a way.
#34
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by HVC - Today at 09:27:40 AM #35
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Josephus - Today at 09:26:40 AMWasn't that long ago we were talking about finding an exit strategy that Putin can swallow. Now we're talking about how much land to give him. [sigh]
#36
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Josquius - Today at 08:51:36 AMAgreeing to a buffer zone with international troops in place first - fine.
Agreeing to a referendum in the contested areas if they want to be part of Russia - that would be fine (at least on the Ukrainian side I'd trust it to be fair)
Swapping donbass land for land elsewhere - I could see how that could be possible too.
But just withdrawing on the vague promise Russia honestly won't put troops there but the land is Russian... Fuck no.
Agreeing to a referendum in the contested areas if they want to be part of Russia - that would be fine (at least on the Ukrainian side I'd trust it to be fair)
Swapping donbass land for land elsewhere - I could see how that could be possible too.
But just withdrawing on the vague promise Russia honestly won't put troops there but the land is Russian... Fuck no.
#37
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by HVC - Today at 08:44:25 AMQuote from: Syt on Today at 08:26:32 AMThey look incredibly excited.
I imagine thats the look on most peoples faces when they visit northern England
#38
Off the Record / Re: A Collection of Unimitigat...
Last post by jimmy olsen - Today at 08:32:23 AM #39
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Syt - Today at 08:26:32 AMThey look incredibly excited.
#40
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by jimmy olsen - Today at 08:25:28 AMQuote from: Tamas on Today at 07:03:08 AMhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/22/ukraine-zelenskyy-peace-deal-us-nato-meetingThat's always been true. He's never beleived in anything.QuoteAsked why Kyiv should be forced to give up territory in the east that Russian troops have been unable to capture for 11 years, a US official said the deal "was beneficial to Ukraine". They said they envisaged Trump and Zelenskyy sitting down together and signing a document "for peace".
That's the crust of it I think. The extent to which Trump and thus his lapdogs consider this - it's a great photo opportunity for Trump to sign the "peace deal". Who the hell cares what's in it.