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#21
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: DGuller on Today at 06:30:02 PMThe principle is exactly the same, and that's why at some point it becomes problematic.  That's why employers will very rarely talk about their former employees to other prospective employers:  a bad reference, justified or not, can be viewed as blackballing.

And do you believe in this case the absence of bad references is just and fair?
#22
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by DGuller - Today at 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 06:10:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on Today at 05:43:53 PMNo, you alone deciding not to deal with the person is not a boycott, a boycott is a coordinated refusal to deal.  A boycott is everyone getting together and creating a blacklist of people not to bet with (maybe for good reasons, maybe for not so good reasons, but the persons excluded don't get a due process, not that it makes a difference).

If I tell a third party "hey, that guy welches, don't bet with him" the principle is exactly the same.
The principle is exactly the same, and that's why at some point it becomes problematic.  That's why employers will very rarely talk about their former employees to other prospective employers:  a bad reference, justified or not, can be viewed as blackballing.
#23
Off the Record / Re: Youtube Recommendations
Last post by Darth Wagtaros - Today at 06:23:02 PM
I keep watching The Why Files.  Heckle Fish has got me.
#24
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Tonitrus - Today at 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 04:20:19 PMI am very jealous of jobs that involve big boards - especially if analogue :lol: :ph34r:

I had once had a chance to visit/see the Alaskan NORAD Region big board (which also had a stuffed polar bear next to it).  Twas' pretty cool.  :cool:
#25
Off the Record / Re: Refractory Gauls, or the F...
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 06:14:26 PM
LFI/Melenchon might be marginally "better" as they don't seem to be funded by the Kremlin (that we know of anyway).

They would be a disaster pretty much on par with the RN on policy, so it's a false choice.
#26
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 06:10:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on Today at 05:43:53 PMNo, you alone deciding not to deal with the person is not a boycott, a boycott is a coordinated refusal to deal.  A boycott is everyone getting together and creating a blacklist of people not to bet with (maybe for good reasons, maybe for not so good reasons, but the persons excluded don't get a due process, not that it makes a difference).

If I tell a third party "hey, that guy welches, don't bet with him" the principle is exactly the same.
#27
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 05:44:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 05:33:34 PMWhere that falls apart is someone doesn't need to bet, but they do need to live somewhere.

*edit* not that I have an answer myself.

Yes, I understand the argument.  My issue is not with providing housing to the unhouseable, but who picks up the tab. 
#28
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by DGuller - Today at 05:43:53 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 05:13:16 PMI don't understand your reasoning.  If I make a bet with someone and he or she welches, and I decline to bet with them in the future, that's not coercion or intimidation.  I suppose it is boycotting, but why should I not boycott that person?
No, you alone deciding not to deal with the person is not a boycott, a boycott is a coordinated refusal to deal.  A boycott is everyone getting together and creating a blacklist of people not to bet with (maybe for good reasons, maybe for not so good reasons, but the persons excluded don't get a due process, not that it makes a difference).

Now, here the case is somewhat complicated in that the boycott is not explicitly organized as such, but is rather an unintended consequence of every landlord using the same or similar tools to screen applicants.  However, the effect in practice is the same, and so the law should catch up to treating it as the same.  The law is already starting to catch up to the fact that the software used by landlords to suggest rents is implicitly creating a cartel, they should likewise catch up to other things that commonly used vendor solutions are doing.
#29
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 05:38:04 PM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 05:10:13 PMThis is absolutely dystopian shit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/s/PNokJGs7RN

A bunch of armed and masked men with no convincing identification thst they are police, put a child into an unmarked civilian car.

Like, the fuck?!

Edit: maybe it's an adult not a child but it only makes marginally less terrifying.

Yes, all over social media there are videos where it seems that ICE can just kidnap and shoot people without any consequences or oversight. The brown shirts have been identified.
#30
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by HVC - Today at 05:33:34 PM
Where that falls apart is someone doesn't need to bet, but they do need to live somewhere.

*edit* not that I have an answer myself.