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#11
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 12:34:05 PM
OvB always so impatient.
#12
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 12:31:38 PM
 :lol:

I did not know that. I've haven't displayed avatars in years.
#13
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Josquius - Today at 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: Syt on Today at 09:40:48 AMI mean look at Enoch Powell in the UK and his 1960s Rivers of Blood speech, or the anti-Irish/Italian/Chinese sentiments in the USA in the 19th century. It's not exactly a new phenomenon.

Anti-immigrant hysteria is of course much older than that. But the exact framing outlined here, the caricature of the left, etc...
It rings some bells.
#14
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - Today at 10:33:13 AM
This reminds me of the great immigrant caravan of 2018 coming to destroy America if the Democrats won.
#15
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by mongers - Today at 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 09:12:18 AMWrong french canadian :P

 :blush:

It's not that I don't have a clear idea of Viper and GF's characters on Languish, it's that they both got a man looking intently at you for avatars, that's always confusing me.
#16
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 09:42:31 AM
Camp of the Saints was Steve Bannon's favorite book.
#17
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 09:41:07 AM
Quote from: Josquius on Today at 06:12:51 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 12, 2025, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 12, 2025, 05:14:44 PMDidn't she actually sail there are get arrested or something? Seems bizarre to have such sneering contempt for somebody who actually put their ass on the line.

Also what exactly is your criticism here? Is there some concrete action one individual person can do that would instantly solve all these problems? I mean if US Presidents have flailed importently for decades it seems insane to direct your ire at some random powerless private person. Seems like the people who actually have power, money, and resources and still miserably fail at everything would be more worthy of your contempt.

My criticism is that Squeeze gets what he wants, which is a cease fire and the IDF "fucks off" from at least parts of Gaza, Hamas starts shooting Palestinians, and he can't accept that's a result of exactly what he was asking for.

Oh no, I'm totally with you. Its all the fault of those horrible nasty woke people with their little boat of food.
If only the IDF had blown up a few more neighbourhoods, if the famine had been able to develop a bit more... You know, a few thousand more dead kids. That's the key. If only they'd delivered that then they'd absolutely have cut off civilian support for the guys chanting death to Israel and oppressing Gaza on a more day to day level.

Did they actually have any food on those boats?  Mostly it seem to be full of hipsters.  The Israelis did not find any aid.  Anyway, they are now trying your plan.  "Back the fuck off".  I'm sure that will bring peace.
#18
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Syt - Today at 09:40:48 AM
I mean look at Enoch Powell in the UK and his 1960s Rivers of Blood speech, or the anti-Irish/Italian/Chinese sentiments in the USA in the 19th century. It's not exactly a new phenomenon.
#19
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 09:30:50 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 12, 2025, 11:06:29 PMAre you saying before the invasion civic society other than Hamas *did* exist in Gaza?

Of course, there were clubs, private businesses, neighborhoods, sports teams, etc.  Perhaps not politically powerful, but such things are the building blocks for the possibility of some other political future. 

QuoteThe article mentions opposition based on tribe.

I didn't see anything about tribes.  There are still strong extended family structures in Palestinian society, and the article does allude to one of them.  That's not what I meant by civil society.  When an extended family grouping becomes ascendant politically, you get something like the Assads in Syria.
#20
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on Today at 09:15:52 AMHopefully not. NATO is a corrupt tax on American resources for no benefit.

Yes, yes, I already know what RT is saying about it, but what's your view?