Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 25, 2025, 11:41:38 PMThough on the other hand, at this point it's clear that JD Vance would be far worse for Ukraine than Trump is.
Quote from: DGuller on November 25, 2025, 11:44:22 PMI'm a little hesitant to agree, because I may be agreeing to something that I understand differently from you. I mean, I couldn't have imagined how "evolved" could be interpreted here...
QuoteLet me try to concisely restate your restatement: "If LLMs are developed to the point where they can consistently emulate intelligent communication, then they're functionally equivalent to being intelligent. If you can have an "Einstein LLM" that would say everything flesh and bones Einstein would say, even to novel contexts, then it doesn't matter whether the algorithm is classified as cognizant or not; functionally it is as intelligent as flesh and bones Einstein was.
). Quote from: Jacob on November 25, 2025, 11:03:35 PMI'm a little hesitant to agree, because I may be agreeing to something that I understand differently from you. I mean, I couldn't have imagined how "evolved" could be interpreted here...Quote from: DGuller on November 25, 2025, 10:19:38 PMI didn't mean to imply self-evolution, or Darwinian evolution, or anything of the kind.I meant evolved as in "developed".
I'm not sure I'm following your argument correctly here, but it seems like you're saying that "it's theoretically possible that LLM models could be developed to a point where their output 'emulates intelligent communication', and that if it does then it can essentially be considered cognizant whatever is 'under the hood" purely on strength on the apparent intelligence of the output".
Is that right? Or have I missed some nuance?
Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2025, 06:59:51 PMQuote from: Jacob on November 25, 2025, 01:59:26 PMThe world is catering to Trump's ego because he sits at the top of the world's most powerful military, and the world's biggest economy.
If there was any type of cosmic justice someone as morally repugnant as Trump would not be in that position, but the US finds itself in a situation where its levers of powers have been captured by the corrupt, the self-serving, and the straight up evil.
I am talking about the US doing this. I know why the rest of the world plays along. But we are actively allowing him to just fuck up our foreign policy for no other higher goal than satisfying his ego.
Even for a President that is ridiculous.
And we did because our country is full of evil people. Nobody should ever trust us again.
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