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Title: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 11:16:38 AM
Those of you outside Canada may not recognize his name but everyone in Canada does.  He is the person responsible for removing criminal laws regarding abortion.   On a personal level he signficantly informed my views not only regarding the abortion issue (turning me into an advocate for the pro choice movement) but also informing my views regarding the relationship between the State and the individual. 

Here is a good opinion piece on him

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/morgentaler-the-flawed-saint/article12245820/
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Barrister on May 30, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
:mellow:
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 11:43:20 AM
I am not sure what the response means.  Surely you know who he was BB.

If not here is a better editorial piece to inform you. :P

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/editorials/dr-morgentaler-was-a-mover-of-history/article12235270/
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Grey Fox on May 30, 2013, 11:44:10 AM
Greatest Canadian to ever immigrate here. A Great hero.

RIP Hank.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Barrister on May 30, 2013, 11:50:24 AM
My mother always taught me not to speak ill of the recently dead.

I am well aware of Dr. Morgentaler.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2013, 12:03:52 PM
Was he a kind of cheese?
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
He saved countless lives, but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths. Personally I think he did a great service to Canadians. The fact that three juries acquitted him (and the government doing the unheard of and overturning two of those acquittals to convictions) goes a long way to showing most Canadians agree.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2013, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
He saved countless lives, but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths. Personally I think he did a great service to Canadians. The fact that three juries acquired him (and the government doing the unheard of and overturning two of those acquittals to convictions) goes along way to showing most Canadians agree.

A man cannot serve three juries.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:09:54 PM
Don't mock my phones autocorrect. It has sensitive feelings :P
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: DGuller on May 30, 2013, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 30, 2013, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
He saved countless lives, but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths. Personally I think he did a great service to Canadians. The fact that three juries acquired him (and the government doing the unheard of and overturning two of those acquittals to convictions) goes along way to showing most Canadians agree.

A man cannot serve three juries.
:lol:
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Malthus on May 30, 2013, 12:28:30 PM
The abortion situation in Canada is a perfect example of a case in which doing nothing is actually the right move.

We haven't had a law concerning abortion for years, after the courts struck the last one down ... and we haven't missed it.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Josephus on May 30, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
No comment.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Jacob on May 30, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
Me Mom and Morgantaler was a pretty good band back in the 90s.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Josephus on May 30, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 30, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
Me Mom and Morgantaler was a pretty good band back in the 90s.

I interviewed them. Probably back in 1990? 91? For a Ska-Zine.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Tamas on May 30, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths.

and let us not get started on condom producers!!!!
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: HVC on May 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 30, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths.

and let us not get started on condom producers!!!!
I'm pro-choice, but there's a huge difference. That's a grade A Marti analogy :P
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 30, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths.

and let us not get started on condom producers!!!!
I'm pro-choice, but there's a huge difference. That's a grade A Marti analogy :P

I see.  You must also be in favour of putting babies in Freezers then!
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: merithyn on May 30, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 30, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths.

and let us not get started on condom producers!!!!
I'm pro-choice, but there's a huge difference. That's a grade A Marti analogy :P

Not to Catholics.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 30, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 30, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 30, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
but I guess depending on how you look at the situation you can see him as the cause of countless deaths.

and let us not get started on condom producers!!!!
I'm pro-choice, but there's a huge difference. That's a grade A Marti analogy :P

Not to Catholics.

And that being similar to a Marti is wrong because?
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Malthus on May 30, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
I see.  You must also be in favour of putting babies in Freezers then!

Well, if you don't, they quickly go bad. You can't eat a whole one at one sitting, you know.



:Joos
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: DGuller on May 30, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 30, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
I see.  You must also be in favour of putting babies in Freezers then!

Well, if you don't, they quickly go bad. You can't eat a whole one at one sitting, you know.



:Joos
:wacko:  You put leftovers in the freezer?  :huh:
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Malthus on May 30, 2013, 03:06:02 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 30, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
I see.  You must also be in favour of putting babies in Freezers then!

Well, if you don't, they quickly go bad. You can't eat a whole one at one sitting, you know.



:Joos
:wacko:  You put leftovers in the freezer?  :huh:

It's ceremonial fare. You don't have baby for the taste, you know. It's gotta keep to the next High Holiday.  :D
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Only on languish could a thread about Morgantaler be quickly diverted into Jewish dietary issues.  :D
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2013, 03:18:42 PM
Jews have issues?
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: frunk on May 30, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
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Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Neil on May 30, 2013, 05:21:17 PM
Anyone who can claw some area of human endeavour clear of the wretched grasp of the cult of law deserves our respect.
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 30, 2013, 05:21:17 PM
Anyone who can claw some area of human endeavour clear of the wretched grasp of the cult of law deserves our respect.

And yet it was through the good work of a dedicated legal team that he won his constitutional battle to set aside the law.  :smarty:
Title: Re: Henry Morgentaler RIP
Post by: Neil on May 30, 2013, 05:27:38 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 30, 2013, 05:21:17 PM
Anyone who can claw some area of human endeavour clear of the wretched grasp of the cult of law deserves our respect.
And yet it was through the good work of a dedicated legal team that he won his constitutional battle to set aside the law.  :smarty:
That's great.  We'll hang them last.

Just goes to show that the system is so perverse that there's no saving it.