http://abcnews.go.com/Business/papa-johns-ceo-apologizes-racist-rant-delivery-man/story?id=19266598#.UaT6_UDIatY
QuotePapa John's CEO Apologizes for Delivery Man's Racist Rant Left on Customer's Phone
Papa John's Chairman and CEO John Schnatter apologized to a customer in Sanford, Fla., for a racist rant a Papa John's delivery man inadvertently left on the customer's voicemail.
After he delivered a pizza to the Sanford customer and his wife Sunday evening, the delivery man "butt dialed" the customer and left a voicemail message laden with racial slurs as he complained about his tip.
The customer posted a video on YouTube in which he showed the pizza delivery receipt, explaining he and his wife tipped 21 percent, "as usual."
In the voicemail message, which lasts about four minutes, the Papa John's employee complains to another Papa John's employee about the $5 tip and uses the N-word and other racial expletives, which he also incorporated into a song about the customer.
"I guess that's the only requirement for being a [insert N-word] in Sanford," a city still reeling from racial tensions after the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, 17, last year.
Read more: Trayvon Martin Drug Photos Can't Be Mentioned, Says Judge
"Yeah, they give me five bucks there -- fine outstanding African-American gentleman of the community," the delivery man can be heard saying in the call.
His fellow co-worker laughed in response.
Schnatter posted an apology on Papa John's Facebook page on Monday afternoon.
"Friends, I am extremely concerned to learn about the reprehensible language used by two former employees in one of our restaurants," the Facebook post stated. "Their thinking and actions defy both my personal and the company's values, and everything for which this company stands."
Schnatter said the employees "responsible for this absolutely unacceptable behavior were immediately terminated."
Read more: 7 Noteworthy Company Apologies
"My heartfelt apology goes out to the customer involved, his family and our community at large. I am very sorry that anyone would be exposed to these hurtful and painful words by any person involved in any way with our company," Schnatter said.
A call to Papa John's by ABC News for further comment was not immediately returned.
Many Facebook users who commented in response to Schnatter's post applauded his public apology.
One Facebook user said Schnatter is "a CEO that actually takes responsibility for the actions of his employees. You can't control employees, but you can take appropriate action."
In January 2012, a customer was described on a paper receipt as "Lady Chink Eyes" by a Papa John's employee in New York City.
Fuck, $5 is a pretty good tip for a delivery driver....isn't it?
Quote from: Berkut on May 28, 2013, 01:53:07 PM
Fuck, $5 is a pretty good tip for a delivery driver....isn't it?
Yeah, real good, unless they ordered lots of pizzas or something.
Quote from: Valmy on May 28, 2013, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 28, 2013, 01:53:07 PM
Fuck, $5 is a pretty good tip for a delivery driver....isn't it?
Yeah, real good, unless they ordered lots of pizzas or something.
They say they tipped 21%, so the bill would have been 23.80 without tip.
Heck, I tip the delivery guy 10-15% and they're super-happy.
Quote from: Susanna KimHis fellow co-worker laughed in response.
Fellow co-worker?
Quote from: Berkut on May 28, 2013, 01:53:07 PM
Fuck, $5 is a pretty good tip for a delivery driver....isn't it?
Surprisingly, the racist asshole is also bad at math.
$5 for delivering my pizza? Fuck that.
Quote from: Jacob on May 28, 2013, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: Susanna KimHis fellow co-worker laughed in response.
Fellow co-worker?
Brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
The story I read made it sound like there was no tip and he was only paid $5 for the pizza.
I might feel a little bit of sympathy for the driver if he had been stiffed. I can't find it now, and have no idea why I read it in the first place, but I once read a blog from a surprisingly well-adjusted 40-something pizza delivery guy who just was offering random stories about his job. He never delved into racism, but he gave his personal experiences with tipping and he said in his experience black customers failed to tip at all a disproportionately when compared to white customers.
But I don't get at all how the guy is mad about a $5 tip on a $23 order. I used to tip a standard $2, usually a pizza order for the three of us is around the low-mid 20s, and I knew $2 was low percentage wise, but I had always thought that since the delivery work is not really based on the amount of the order a "flat rate" of $2 was good. Sometimes it'd actually be over 20% on a smaller order but usually it was under, closer to 10%. After reading a bit of this guy's blog he made a pretty good argument for $3 being the "flat rate" for all tipping, and that you should tip generously on very large special orders. It made sense and I've adopted that approach, my baseline delivery tip is $3 and if I'm ordering a bunch of food for a party or something I'll give a very generous (20-25+% tip) just for having to handle so much food etc. So $5 is really much more generous than I'd be, and I think would realistically be in the top percentile for tips on a $23 order for most delivery guys.
Quote from: Syt on May 28, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 28, 2013, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: Susanna KimHis fellow co-worker laughed in response.
Fellow co-worker?
Brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
Isn't that like saying incompetent journalist?
My delivery orders usually come to around $20 bucks giver or take, so I tip $5; delivery driving is dangerous work, between putting your ass on the line (robbery attempts) and your car on the line (getting wrecked trying to get me my jalapeno poppers), I think it's the least I can do.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
My delivery orders usually come to around $20 bucks giver or take, so I tip $5; delivery driving is dangerous work, between putting your ass on the line (robbery attempts) and your car on the line (getting wrecked trying to get me my jalapeno poppers), I think it's the least I can do.
I have a lot less crime in my neighborhood, so I feel okay sticking with a $3 tip.
I'll give 'em $5 or so.
Papa is giving them money too; 3 clams is enough for a pie.
$2-3 for a delivery is more than enough.
I worked as a delivery driver, and managed a Pizza Hut delivery restaurant for several years.
$2 was the basic tip that a driver would consider a "good" tip. $1 was a crappy tip, but still nothing to get bent out of shape about.
$5 was an excellent tip.
That was 15 years ago, granted, but I doubt the basic tip levels have changed all that much.
Which makes me suspect there is More To The Story.
$15 is the best tip I ever got as a driver for Domino's, and that was for a delivery for a football game day party. Delivering to plant facilities was the worst, because they'd be huge orders out a ways, and they'd tip little, if any.
$2 is average, $5 is still a pretty good tip. I never really got bent out of shape over 1s, because those were probably in-city and lots of them.
Quote from: Berkut on May 28, 2013, 04:15:50 PMWhich makes me suspect there is More To The Story.
Yeah, I concur.
Quote from: katmai on May 28, 2013, 01:59:50 PM
$5 for delivering my pizza? Fuck that.
:yes:
2 bucks at most to the delivery driver/pot dealer/ cable descrambler seller.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
My delivery orders usually come to around $20 bucks giver or take, so I tip $5; delivery driving is dangerous work, between putting your ass on the line (robbery attempts) and your car on the line (getting wrecked trying to get me my jalapeno poppers), I think it's the least I can do.
Such a fine outstanding African American gentleman you are. :)
This is too funny. :lol:
I never get anything delivered anymore, but on the rare occasions I have, I try to tip 20% or $4, whichever is highest.
Papa Johns is particularly annoying for delivery because they add a "delivery fee" ($2 last I checked) that does not, afaik, go--directly, anyway--to the delivery driver. I.e., it's a bullshit upcharge.
Do drivers work for free where you come from, Ide?
I don't think so. I think they make the ordinary minwage.
I'd actually very much like to find out more about how delivery drivers operate.
I'm giving 20% or so unless something terrible goes wrong.
Quote from: Jaron on May 29, 2013, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
My delivery orders usually come to around $20 bucks giver or take, so I tip $5; delivery driving is dangerous work, between putting your ass on the line (robbery attempts) and your car on the line (getting wrecked trying to get me my jalapeno poppers), I think it's the least I can do.
Such a fine outstanding African American gentleman you are. :)
Jalapeno poppers are worth it.
I usually pay online or with plastic and do not carry cash so I never tip. :yeah:
Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
I usually pay online or with plastic and do not carry cash so I never tip. :yeah:
If you're a known no-tipper, you don't want to know what kind of "additives" are going into your food.
Yeah, when I order delivery online from Papa Johns or wherever, I usually go ahead and throw the tip on there when I'm paying with my debit card.
I know it's always better to tip in cash (take that, Ide) but more often than not I either don't have any cash on me or don't have small bills.
Schnatter is a weird dude. There's a Papa John's down the road here, and sometimes he'll just show up there and start making pizza. I've never seen him there but he ran the register for one of my co-workers before. Dude, come on, you have peons to do that shit for you. :huh:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 29, 2013, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
I usually pay online or with plastic and do not carry cash so I never tip. :yeah:
If you're a known no-tipper, you don't want to know what kind of "additives" are going into your food.
Well I hardly ever order pizza or ready made food anyway - the most frequent deliveries I get are groceries, and the room for shittiness is reduced there.
Plus, in Poland, there is no real culture of tipping, as people are paid normal wage and do not need to live off their employer scamming customers.
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
I like Abby's and Pietro's. :wub:
My standard pizza order is 19.something & I give 22$ It's enough, the pizza place is 700m(~2000 fts) from my house.
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
Yes, you live in NYC. We get it.
Quote from: derspiess on May 29, 2013, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
Yes, you live in NYC. We get it.
I wouldn't even order Papa John's when I lived in Central MA. :mellow:
Quote from: derspiess on May 29, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
Yeah, when I order delivery online from Papa Johns or wherever, I usually go ahead and throw the tip on there when I'm paying with my debit card.
I know it's always better to tip in cash (take that, Ide) but more often than not I either don't have any cash on me or don't have small bills.
Stop enabling treason.
To be fair to Papa John's, the quality of their pizza tends to vary drastically over time. I'm not a big fan but a few times I've had it and it was surprisingly decent. Other times, it's been worse than even Domino's. There's a direct relationship between who is in the driver's seat (i.e. either Schnatter or some other CEO) at any given time and the quality of the pizza.
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 29, 2013, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
Yes, you live in NYC. We get it.
I wouldn't even order Papa John's when I lived in Central MA. :mellow:
Good for you. IMO it's not great, but not horrible. In my neighborhood the delivery or nearby pickup options are almost all national or regional chains, so you make do with what you have.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 29, 2013, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 29, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
Yeah, when I order delivery online from Papa Johns or wherever, I usually go ahead and throw the tip on there when I'm paying with my debit card.
I know it's always better to tip in cash (take that, Ide) but more often than not I either don't have any cash on me or don't have small bills.
Stop enabling treason.
TAX IS THEFT
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
Schnatter is a weird dude. There's a Papa John's down the road here, and sometimes he'll just show up there and start making pizza. I've never seen him there but he ran the register for one of my co-workers before. Dude, come on, you have peons to do that shit for you. :huh:
It generates good publicity.
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 10:32:24 AM
To be fair to Papa John's, the quality of their pizza tends to vary drastically over time. I'm not a big fan but a few times I've had it and it was surprisingly decent. Other times, it's been worse than even Domino's. There's a direct relationship between who is in the driver's seat (i.e. either Schnatter or some other CEO) at any given time and the quality of the pizza.
To be fair Domino's isn't as terrible ever since they went with "yeah we sucked so we've changed it all". -_-
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 29, 2013, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
Schnatter is a weird dude. There's a Papa John's down the road here, and sometimes he'll just show up there and start making pizza. I've never seen him there but he ran the register for one of my co-workers before. Dude, come on, you have peons to do that shit for you. :huh:
It generates good publicity.
It's possible that he does it for that reason, but I don't think they announce it beforehand or anything, and I don't think he tells the people at the store... he just shows up there and works when he feels like it. I used to work with a guy who was an accounting manager at the HQ and he said it annoys the hell out of the workers when he does that because he's so happy and bubbly, and of course expects everyone else to be the same there too. I'm sure they would be if they were billionaries like he is instead of minimum-wage workers, and could just saunter off and go back to their giant corner offices when they felt like it. :mellow:
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
To be fair Domino's isn't as terrible ever since they went with "yeah we sucked so we've changed it all". -_-
:hmm: Haven't had Domino's since circa 1999 or so.
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 10:43:09 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
To be fair Domino's isn't as terrible ever since they went with "yeah we sucked so we've changed it all". -_-
:hmm: Haven't had Domino's since circa 1999 or so.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2009-12-16-dominos16_ST_N.htm
QuoteFor folks who get their jollies complaining about the taste of Domino's Pizza, the company is about to do the unthinkable.
The world's largest pizza delivery chain (DPZ) on Wednesday announced plans to change every part of its core pizza.
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 10:43:09 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
To be fair Domino's isn't as terrible ever since they went with "yeah we sucked so we've changed it all". -_-
:hmm: Haven't had Domino's since circa 1999 or so.
You've successfully avoided the Noid.
Around here, the dominant players are Pizza Hut and Papa John's, since both companies are based here.
To be fair to Schnatter, David Novak (CEO of Yum!) does the same thing as him, but the difference is that ALL corporate employees are required to do that at least one day a year, and the stores know well in advance what day that is. I actually think that's a good idea since it helps the corporate white collar guys to understand how the business works at the lowest levels.
I get all my pizza from here: http://www.brooklynpie.com/ :wub: really really good pizza.
Quote from: Berkut on May 28, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Which makes me suspect there is More To The Story.
Well, you know, I'm sure that black fella was getting a little uppity.
Quote from: Valmy on May 29, 2013, 11:06:21 AM
I get all my pizza from here: http://www.brooklynpie.com/ :wub: really really good pizza.
I'm sure it's good but the "pie" thing annoys the crap out of me.
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 29, 2013, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
Schnatter is a weird dude. There's a Papa John's down the road here, and sometimes he'll just show up there and start making pizza. I've never seen him there but he ran the register for one of my co-workers before. Dude, come on, you have peons to do that shit for you. :huh:
It generates good publicity.
It's possible that he does it for that reason, but I don't think they announce it beforehand or anything, and I don't think he tells the people at the store... he just shows up there and works when he feels like it. I used to work with a guy who was an accounting manager at the HQ and he said it annoys the hell out of the workers when he does that because he's so happy and bubbly, and of course expects everyone else to be the same there too. I'm sure they would be if they were billionaries like he is instead of minimum-wage workers, and could just saunter off and go back to their giant corner offices when they felt like it. :mellow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM
(shout out to shelf)
Do you guys tip more when the weather's bad? I usually give around 20%, but if the weather's bad, I throw a couple extra bucks on it.
We always order from a local place (non chain). We always tip well and we always get our pizza quickly...
What is a reasonable tip for a decent racist rant?
Quote from: merithyn on May 29, 2013, 01:11:44 PM
Do you guys tip more when the weather's bad? I usually give around 20%, but if the weather's bad, I throw a couple extra bucks on it.
Nope. -_-
Quote from: merithyn on May 29, 2013, 01:11:44 PM
Do you guys tip more when the weather's bad? I usually give around 20%, but if the weather's bad, I throw a couple extra bucks on it.
If it's just raining I don't because I figure the guys are doing a lot of volume. Snow on the ground, something like that, I'll give extra.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 29, 2013, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
I like Abby's and Pietro's. :wub:
The Abby's in Newberg is the best pizza around, and much better than any of the other Abby's I have been to.
Quote from: sbr on May 29, 2013, 02:20:29 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 29, 2013, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I don't understand why someone would order Papa John's.
I like Abby's and Pietro's. :wub:
The Abby's in Newberg is the best pizza around, and much better than any of the other Abby's I have been to.
It's so good. I try to eat there every time we head out to the coast.
Quote from: The Brain on May 29, 2013, 01:16:11 PM
What is a reasonable tip for a decent racist rant?
Depends on how the rant could be improved.
Another butt-hurt piece of shit angry over not getting tipped:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/pizza-hut-delivery-man-urinates_n_2078748.html
:D
Seriously, if tips make or break your livelihood try getting a non-loser job instead.
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2013, 03:22:04 PM
Another butt-hurt piece of shit angry over not getting tipped:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/pizza-hut-delivery-man-urinates_n_2078748.html
:D
Seriously, if tips make or break your livelihood try getting a non-loser job instead.
According to the article he was a former Pizza Hut employee.
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2013, 03:22:04 PM
Seriously, if tips make or break your livelihood try getting a non-loser job instead.
Is this what you told all your exboyfriends just before they left? :hmm:
:lmfao:
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2013, 03:22:04 PM
Another butt-hurt piece of shit angry over not getting tipped:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/pizza-hut-delivery-man-urinates_n_2078748.html
:D
Seriously, if tips make or break your livelihood try getting a non-loser job instead.
It *usually* isn't that big a deal. The average income for a delivery driver is $12-14 an hour after tips.
In my case, I made $6.15 an hour the entire time I was on the clock, I got a $0.90 run fee each time I left the store with an order, and the tips were mine and mine alone. The Pizza Hut paid their drivers $7.25 (minimum wage- tip credit workers can be paid below minimum provided tips have made up the difference at the end of the week), but no run fee, so I made more in an hour if I got two or three stops close to the restaurant.
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 30, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
The world needs ditch diggers too.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 30, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
ide has starved to death
Lettow has died of dysentery
Jaron has died of parasites
Mart has been dragged through the streets
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 30, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
We'll just have robots do the work for us! And robots to build the robots. And robots to repair the robots when they break.
:hmm:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 30, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
I can warm my house with firewood and feast on the apples on my trees and when they run out, the weeds in my garden! :showoff:
Cal dies when scavengers come a knocking and he drops his magazine?
MAH SLIDE
I CAN THROW THIS GUN PRETTY HARD
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 30, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2013, 03:22:04 PM
Seriously, if tips make or break your livelihood try getting a non-loser job instead.
Is this what you told all your exboyfriends just before they left? :hmm:
:o :lmfao:
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 30, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 30, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
ide has starved to death
Lettow has died of dysentery
Jaron has died of parasites
Mart has been dragged through the streets
Well, at least my death is flattering. :)
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 30, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
I'm trying to imagine a world in which there are no "losers" and we all do "non-loser" jobs :hmm:
I suspect we would be totally fucked and all die of starvation/hypothermia/whatever within 12 months.
Well, such jobs are there for young people working in them for a limited time. If a student wants to make a few bucks on top of his or her allowance then he/she is not a loser for working such job (but then he/she should not care too much about tips).
However, if you are over thirty and your livelihood depends on delivering pizza, then you are a loser.
Mrs Thatcher said something to that effect back in the day, let me see.......
"A man who, beyond the age of 30, finds himself on a bus can count himself as a failure" ........thus pissing off any number of well-heeled voters in London :lol:
Though apparently she never did say that, we all just thought she did; the internet giveth and the internet taketh away :(
Well, pissing off voters does not mean you are not right. In fact, usually, it means the opposite. :P
I have to disagree with Marti, we normally agree on matters relating to the reprehensible nature of the poor, but I must say we do need an underclass. It can't fully be staffed only by the young.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 31, 2013, 03:46:11 AM
Mrs Thatcher said something to that effect back in the day, let me see.......
"A man who, beyond the age of 30, finds himself on a bus can count himself as a failure" ........thus pissing off any number of well-heeled voters in London :lol:
Though apparently she never did say that, we all just thought she did; the internet giveth and the internet taketh away :(
In Toronto, a man who attempts to drive downtown can count himself as a failure. :D
Quote from: Martinus on May 31, 2013, 03:32:14 AM
If a student wants to make a few bucks on top of his or her allowance...
Not all parents treat their children like bubble boys, keeping them away from all danger and providing them with allowance.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 31, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
I have to disagree with Marti, we normally agree on matters relating to the reprehensible nature of the poor, but I must say we do need an underclass. It can't fully be staffed only by the young.
The problem is that the kind of work uneducated, less gifted members of society can perform in the market has become downgraded a lot in the past 30, 40 years. In the 70s and 80s, if you had no education, you could head out and do helpers' jobs on construction sites, in production companies etc.
These days they hardly let you in the door unless you have all kinds of fancy certificates.
Quote from: Syt on May 31, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 31, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
I have to disagree with Marti, we normally agree on matters relating to the reprehensible nature of the poor, but I must say we do need an underclass. It can't fully be staffed only by the young.
The problem is that the kind of work uneducated, less gifted members of society can perform in the market has become downgraded a lot in the past 30, 40 years. In the 70s and 80s, if you had no education, you could head out and do helpers' jobs on construction sites, in production companies etc.
These days they hardly let you in the door unless you have all kinds of fancy certificates.
Meh, in the 70s and 80s I was hearing about how back in the 50s and 60s if you had no eduction you could head out and get jobs of that nature and how impossible it was to do in the 70s and 80s.
Quote from: Caliga on May 29, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
Schnatter is a weird dude. There's a Papa John's down the road here, and sometimes he'll just show up there and start making pizza. I've never seen him there but he ran the register for one of my co-workers before. Dude, come on, you have peons to do that shit for you. :huh:
I TOLD you guys he was a weird dude. :)
What happened today?
use the N word during a PR training session (which in context didn't see racial, just misguided. he complained that Colonial Sanders used the word nigger and KFC never got any flack). He then went on to explain (reminisce?) about how in the area where he grow up the use to drag black people behind cars, so he's not as bad as them.
After this his PR company dropped him, he got fired from his chairman job at popa johns and some sports teams dropped popa johns
Also our stadium just dropped "Papa John's" from its name (now it's just 'Cardinal Stadium'). I saw Taylor Swift there a few weeks back so I guess that was one of the last shows under the old name.
Anyways I believe I've commented in other threads on here how weird he is. :ph34r:
And Schnatter is just days later saying it was a mistake to resign.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/7/17/17581558/papa-john-n-word-resignation
Quote from: Barrister on July 17, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
And Schnatter is just days later saying it was a mistake to resign.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/7/17/17581558/papa-john-n-word-resignation
QuoteThis isn't the first racial controversy for Schnatter; he had already resigned as Papa John's CEO, but not chair, last year after blaming falling sales on the NFL's inability to stop national anthem protests over systemic racism and police brutality. (Papa John's was, but no longer is, the NFL's official pizza.)
MONSTROUS.
And then the second half of the article just worships the wisdom of Ta-Nehisi Coates.
I think we need to elect this guy POTUS.
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
And then the second half of the article just worships the wisdom of Ta-Nehisi Coates.
The wisdom of starting a career writing shitty comic books? :hmm:
Quote from: Valmy on July 18, 2018, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
And then the second half of the article just worships the wisdom of Ta-Nehisi Coates.
The wisdom of starting a career writing shitty comic books? :hmm:
How were his comics shitty? I was under the impression they were well regarded (but I don't know).
I dislike most of what he does. -_-
Quote from: Jacob on July 18, 2018, 02:52:29 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 18, 2018, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
And then the second half of the article just worships the wisdom of Ta-Nehisi Coates.
The wisdom of starting a career writing shitty comic books? :hmm:
How were his comics shitty? I was under the impression they were well regarded (but I don't know).
So well regarded that they only made it to 6 issues because nobody bought them. Though I'll admit I didn't read them-- nor any comic book since I was in 5th grade.
Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2018, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 18, 2018, 02:52:29 PM
How were his comics shitty? I was under the impression they were well regarded (but I don't know).
So well regarded that they only made it to 6 issues because nobody bought them. Though I'll admit I didn't read them-- nor any comic book since I was in 5th grade.
Six, thirty and counting... what's the difference, amiright?
Ta-Nehisi Coates is the son of a black terrorist and it shows, he has good literary skills but he uses those skills to find 10,000 different ways to say "all whites are evil."
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 19, 2018, 11:56:14 AM
Ta-Nehisi Coates is the son of a black terrorist and it shows, he has good literary skills but he uses those skills to find 10,000 different ways to say "all whites are evil."
That was not my impression from reading his stuff.
He's one of the main reasons I stopped reading The Atlantic. Though I liked his article about redlining and wealth accumulation.