Just as well, I'm getting out:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/newspaper-reporter-named-worst-job-united-states-154825217.html
Now taking bets for the worst job in America. Any takers?
If you bet sewage plant operator, funeral director or dishwasher, you lose this round. No, even military generals and maids have a better balance of work environment, stress and hiring outlook than the job that sunk to the bottom of this year's Career Cast rankings with a clunk.
Newspaper reporter earned the number 200 position — landing below lumberjack — due to the company's assessment that print journalists suffer from high stress and a difficult work environment. Not to mention the ranking for their chance at a promising career future falls into the negatives.
Career Cast lists the average income of US newspaper reporters at $35,275, considerably less than the higher-ranked job of photojournalist. However, photojournalists still fall near the bottom of the job list at slot number 188, slightly behind radio and television broadcasters.
The best job in America, according to the list, is actuary. Despite all those probability calculations of death and destruction, the rankings indicate actuaries have a relatively low-stress work environment and a high chance of employment at a high wage.
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Sadly, the longstanding career of port-a-potty cleaner doesn't appear on the list of rankings. If Bloomberg Businessweek's profile of an employee at the company Johnny On The Spot is an indication, it might have beat newspaper reporter for the worst job in America. Maybe.
:yeah: :(
This is all over the news here, with the reporters squirming in ironic delight. Alongside print newspapers closing on a daily basis, it's a shitty wage to knock on people's doors and ask how they feel about their kid being murdered.
Here's the full list if anyone's interested, but due to being spread out over several pages, it's not terribly searchable.
http://www.careercast.com/jobs-rated/best-worst-jobs-2013 (http://www.careercast.com/jobs-rated/best-worst-jobs-2013)
Market research analysts rates distressingly high :hmm:
You coulda stayed in IT. YOU COULDA BEEN A CONTENDA :(
Attorney ranks at an unappealling #117.
Watching my father try and survive through the death of print newspapers I can understand why reporter might be the worst job in the world.
Quote from: Brazen on April 24, 2013, 09:17:45 AM
Market research analysts rates distressingly high :hmm:
I was surprised it made the list!
Besides, it can't be too bad if it pays for me to have a one bedroom in Manhattan and I get to post on Languish a lot. ;)
btw my job would be a mix between the #3 and #10 positions on the list. Yep, I'm awesome. :cool:
Reporters are scum.
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 09:42:57 AM
btw my job would be a mix between the #3 and #10 positions on the list. Yep, I'm awesome. :cool:
you're #31
List seems wildly optomistic about the job prospects of occupations like "historian" and "archaeologist". :hmm:
I have to admit I don't really understand the green bar ratings. For one job it'll have 6 and a full bar but then another will be 44 and have a partially green bar. Quick scan of methodology page didn't really explain...
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:16:28 AM
List seems wildly optomistic about the job prospects of occupations like "historian" and "archaeologist". :hmm:
All you need is a hat and whip and you're good to go.
Quote from: Neil on April 24, 2013, 10:42:54 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:16:28 AM
List seems wildly optomistic about the job prospects of occupations like "historian" and "archaeologist". :hmm:
All you need is a hat and whip and you're good to go.
So, there's no functional distinction between an archaeologist and CdM out on a date? :hmm:
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 24, 2013, 10:42:54 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:16:28 AM
List seems wildly optomistic about the job prospects of occupations like "historian" and "archaeologist". :hmm:
All you need is a hat and whip and you're good to go.
So, there's no functional distinction between an archaeologist and CdM out on a date? :hmm:
thats absurd. CdM has glorious hair, he'd never wear a hat.
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 24, 2013, 10:42:54 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:16:28 AM
List seems wildly optomistic about the job prospects of occupations like "historian" and "archaeologist". :hmm:
All you need is a hat and whip and you're good to go.
So, there's no functional distinction between an archaeologist and CdM out on a date? :hmm:
I knew Seedy was shortchanging me when he took me out for crab. :angry:
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
Yep. May depend on the place, though.
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
We weren't in Baltimore. We were in the suburbs.
This list seems pretty bogus - a paralegal is ranked much higher than an attorney. :homestar:
Quote from: Martinus on April 24, 2013, 11:32:26 AM
This list seems pretty bogus - a paralegal is ranked much higher than an attorney. :homestar:
Less responsibility, less stress. Paycheck isn't everything.
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
We weren't in Baltimore. We were in the suburbs.
:hmm: I've had plenty of crab in Murrland but come to think of it, most of it was probably right on the Bay.
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
:yeahright: Definitely doesn't apply to the #1 ranked profession.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
It depends.
A job where you have very little stress and can "leave your work at work" can result in more productive free time; some truly great authors, composers, etc. had very low-stress jobs (wherein they made enough money to cover their expenses) and were able to use their considerable brain power for other pursuits.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
I cant think of a position that has no stress. There is a continuum of autonomy within all workplaces. On one extreme are people who have no autonomy who always do what they are told when they are told to do it. On the other extreme are people who have the freedom to decide what needs to be done and how and when to do it. The latter has it own kind of stress but is more satisfying. That former is mind dumbingly boring and can be highly stressful (especially if one has a dick for a manager).
Is my job on the list?
Quote from: The Brain on April 24, 2013, 12:44:09 PM
Is my job on the list?
Horsefucker General? Didn't see it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
Yeah. I've considered ditching the stress but being in a Wal-Mart greeter type job may be worse.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 24, 2013, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
Yeah. I've considered ditching the stress but being in a Wal-Mart greeter type job may be worse.
Oh, it almost certainly would be worse, yes.
On the other hand, "Wal-Mart Greeter" isn't the only other option. For the same kind of salary you could be doing landscaping work. I don't know about you but I do a lot of my best thinking when I'm out in the fresh air, mowing the lawn, pruning trees, shoveling barkdust, tilling garden beds, etc. And as long as the work is of high quality and performed in a reasonable timeframe the customer - a real customer, who is exchanging money with you for a specified service, not someone who has come to shop at the store at which you work but may see no value in your presence there - is happy.
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
We weren't in Baltimore. We were in the suburbs.
He takes you out for dinner and you bitch about it?
Quote from: The Brain on April 24, 2013, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 24, 2013, 12:44:09 PM
Is my job on the list?
Horsefucker General? Didn't see it.
:( List-makers suck.
:yes:
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Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
Oh, it almost certainly would be worse, yes.
On the other hand, "Wal-Mart Greeter" isn't the only other option. For the same kind of salary you could be doing landscaping work. I don't know about you but I do a lot of my best thinking when I'm out in the fresh air, mowing the lawn, pruning trees, shoveling barkdust, tilling garden beds, etc. And as long as the work is of high quality and performed in a reasonable timeframe the customer - a real customer, who is exchanging money with you for a specified service, not someone who has come to shop at the store at which you work but may see no value in your presence there - is happy.
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Fuckin' A
:D :thumbsup:
Quote from: Jacob on April 24, 2013, 01:10:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
We weren't in Baltimore. We were in the suburbs.
He takes you out for dinner and you bitch about it?
Of course, who would I be if I didn't? :P
But yes, it was very nice of him to pay for it. Oh those heady days when he had an expense account. -_-
Quote from: DGuller on April 24, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
:yeahright: Definitely doesn't apply to the #1 ranked profession.
Accountant?
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
Yep. May depend on the place, though.
It was a fine local institution. :mad:
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 24, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
I cant think of a position that has no stress.
A lot of it happens to be self-induced.
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 24, 2013, 02:04:45 PM
Worst lyrics ever
Leave me alone, I'm a family man. :(
Now I've got that song in my head.
Oh, cool, there's a Mike Oldfield version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmktElSjvY
Quote from: Josephus on April 24, 2013, 03:23:56 PM
Now I've got that song in my head.
I wish I had that song in my head. Instead, I have "Sunshine of Your Love" stuck in my head. Don't get me wrong, it's a great song, but whenever it pops into my head it's because Cal is angry about something at work and has a compulsion to choke some bitches out. <_<
Quote from: Neil on April 24, 2013, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 24, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The flipside of no stress is boredom and repetition.
:yeahright: Definitely doesn't apply to the #1 ranked profession.
Accountant?
No, put your reading glasses on.
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
On the other hand, "Wal-Mart Greeter" isn't the only other option. For the same kind of salary you could be doing landscaping work. I don't know about you but I do a lot of my best thinking when I'm out in the fresh air, mowing the lawn, pruning trees, shoveling barkdust, tilling garden beds, etc.
I, on the other hand, drive myself batshit fucking nuts if I have too much time to think on a job. Worse thing ever for me was being a security guard with nothing to do. Boring, and still trapped in my head.
QuoteAnd as long as the work is of high quality and performed in a reasonable timeframe the customer - a real customer, who is exchanging money with you for a specified service, not someone who has come to shop at the store at which you work but may see no value in your presence there - is happy.
I'm going to start writing gay bondage porn fiction; of all the non-scientific free-lance writing work I've explored, it seems to pays the best by word.
Bulbous. Engorged. Chaps.
Yeah, piece of cake.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 24, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 11:15:31 AM
Dude, taking someone out for crab in Bawlmer is a fucking compliment. The crab there is the shiznit. :cool:
Yep. May depend on the place, though.
It was a fine local institution. :mad:
It was one of the few places still in existence. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 24, 2013, 04:29:16 PM
I'm going to start writing gay bondage porn fiction; of all the non-scientific free-lance writing work I've explored, it seems to pays the best by word.
Bulbous. Engorged. Chaps.
Yeah, piece of cake.
Leave out bulbous which sounds like a tumor and I'll buy.
All my characters will be circumcised. That's just the way it's gotta be, fellas.
Totally fine. I do not need to picture any more penises with their own carrying cases.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 24, 2013, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 24, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
I cant think of a position that has no stress.
A lot of it happens to be self-induced.
Yeah, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that any job I hold is going to be the highest-stress job in America.
Become a priest at this Episcopal Church:
$475,000 annual salary — which rises to a total compensation of $1.3 million when his pension and the estimated cost of his residence in a $5.5 million, church-owned SoHo town house are added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/nyregion/trinity-church-in-manhattan-is-split-on-how-to-spend-its-wealth.html
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
Become a priest at this Episcopal Church:
$475,000 annual salary — which rises to a total compensation of $1.3 million when his pension and the estimated cost of his residence in a $5.5 million, church-owned SoHo town house are added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/nyregion/trinity-church-in-manhattan-is-split-on-how-to-spend-its-wealth.html
Holy Jesus! :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
Become a priest at this Episcopal Church:
$475,000 annual salary — which rises to a total compensation of $1.3 million when his pension and the estimated cost of his residence in a $5.5 million, church-owned SoHo town house are added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/nyregion/trinity-church-in-manhattan-is-split-on-how-to-spend-its-wealth.html
Holy Jesus! :lol:
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
Become a priest at this Episcopal Church:
$475,000 annual salary — which rises to a total compensation of $1.3 million when his pension and the estimated cost of his residence in a $5.5 million, church-owned SoHo town house are added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/nyregion/trinity-church-in-manhattan-is-split-on-how-to-spend-its-wealth.html
Holy Jesus! :lol:
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
The question is - are Episcopal Priests allowed to have sex lives? :hmm:
The great salary, free house deal isn't so attractive if you gotta be celebate.
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
Become a priest at this Episcopal Church:
$475,000 annual salary — which rises to a total compensation of $1.3 million when his pension and the estimated cost of his residence in a $5.5 million, church-owned SoHo town house are added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/nyregion/trinity-church-in-manhattan-is-split-on-how-to-spend-its-wealth.html
Holy Jesus! :lol:
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
The question is - are Episcopal Priests allowed to have sex lives? :hmm:
The great salary, free house deal isn't so attractive if you gotta be celebate.
only Catholics priests have that celibacy rule.
Episcopal priests can also be women (and be gay), and both male and female priests freely marry and have children as well as get divorced. Further, they can later "convert" into the Catholic priesthood and still keep their marriage and family privileges.
I have been considering a career change
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
Become a priest at this Episcopal Church:
$475,000 annual salary — which rises to a total compensation of $1.3 million when his pension and the estimated cost of his residence in a $5.5 million, church-owned SoHo town house are added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/nyregion/trinity-church-in-manhattan-is-split-on-how-to-spend-its-wealth.html
Holy Jesus! :lol:
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
The question is - are Episcopal Priests allowed to have sex lives? :hmm:
The great salary, free house deal isn't so attractive if you gotta be celebate.
only Catholics priests have that celibacy rule.
Episcopal priests can also be women (and be gay), and both male and female priests freely marry and have children as well as get divorced. Further, they can later "convert" into the Catholic priesthood and still keep their marriage and family privileges.
Woah, sweet deal. Big salary, free house *and* sex life? What's the catch?
Oh yeah, gotta talk some about Jesus from time to time, right? I can do that. :)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 24, 2013, 04:29:16 PM
I, on the other hand, drive myself batshit fucking nuts if I have too much time to think on a job. Worse thing ever for me was being a security guard with nothing to do. Boring, and still trapped in my head.
Well, I would say that sitting in a booth or something is not as ideal as doing some physical labor in terms of thinking. The manual labor gets your endorphins going, so the things you're likely to think about are going to be better on average.
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
:D Along with every other well-established "mainstream" Christian church.
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
Well, no-one but a few odd recluses actually believes any of that stuff. You want a multi-billion dollar enterprise run by an odd recluse? Get Howard Hughes. ;)
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
And at black churches (any denomination-- as long as the church has "Ebenezer" in its name) you get to live like a straight up playa-- until you get caught.
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2013, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
And at black churches (any denomination-- as long as the church has "Ebenezer" in its name) you get to live like a straight up playa-- until you get caught.
Definitely. And that's the case with any big megachurches that spawn all sorts of side commercial revenue streams. At least with denominations like the Episcopal Church, Catholic Church, etc. you actually have to go through years of serious Master of Divinity study and seminary involving ancient Greek/Hebrew study.
These "new" and non-denominational churches usually have no experience or education requirements for their "preachers". It's all about personality and "feelings".
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2013, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 25, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
Funny, but normal.
My small hometown Episcopal priest's salary is probably approaching $150,000 by now. And then the perks of living freely in a large historical house on top of the town's center, pension, "discretionary fund", etc.
And at black churches (any denomination-- as long as the church has "Ebenezer" in its name) you get to live like a straight up playa-- until you get caught.
Definitely. And that's the case with any big megachurches that spawn all sorts of side commercial revenue streams. At least with denominations like the Episcopal Church, Catholic Church, etc. you actually have to go through years of serious Master of Divinity study and seminary involving ancient Greek/Hebrew study.
Methodist, Lutheran and even some Baptist churches have some pretty rigid requirements as well.
QuoteThese "new" and non-denominational churches usually have no experience or education requirements for their "preachers". It's all about personality and "feelings".
Yep.
Quote from: fahdiz on April 25, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
:D Along with every other well-established "mainstream" Christian church.
at least the other ones (well catholic really :P ) hide it by giving the "church" the wealth and not the priests.
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
Well, no-one but a few odd recluses actually believes any of that stuff. You want a multi-billion dollar enterprise run by an odd recluse? Get Howard Hughes. ;)
a lawyer who only gives credence to wealth? Shocking :o
:P
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
Well, no-one but a few odd recluses actually believes any of that stuff. You want a multi-billion dollar enterprise run by an odd recluse? Get Howard Hughes. ;)
a lawyer who only gives credence to wealth? Shocking :o
:P
They should just cease the charade and replace all religious figures with lawyers. Give Ide a shot at a decent job, it would.
Can't replace 'em with accountants, that would be gratuitously cruel to the congregations - just imagine an accountant giving a sermon. The boredom! :P
I have to listen to a 2 hour "sermon" tonight. I agree yes, that would be tedious :P
Although, a religion based around lawyers would mean that heaven is full of layers. So on essence: two hells :D
Quote from: fahdiz on April 25, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Guess they missed that whole meek shall inherit the earth and give away your worldly possessions part of Jesus' spiel
:D Along with every other well-established "mainstream" Christian church.
not so true with mainstream Catholic priests and especially the various Catholic monastic orders.