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Title: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Martinus on March 21, 2013, 07:39:22 AM
Ok, so I'm gay so it can't be down to me overlooking bitchy behaviour from prettier women due to sexual attraction - but statistically I noticed that the more condescending, pushy, entitled and arrogant women (and I am not really talking in their relations with me - more when I observe them when dealing with other people) also tend to be ugly (again not talking about high vs low maintenance but more about natural looks).

Is this a thing?
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: HVC on March 21, 2013, 07:41:23 AM
But as a straight guy you can ignore the ugly ones :P
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: garbon on March 21, 2013, 07:41:25 AM
:rolleyes:

No.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Martinus on March 21, 2013, 07:43:07 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2013, 07:41:23 AM
But as a straight guy you can ignore the ugly ones :P

Shouldn't this has evolved the opposite way, though? I mean, if you are ugly, at least try being nice. :P
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: HVC on March 21, 2013, 07:43:14 AM
Also, "condescending, pushy, entitled and arrogant " seem like lawyer traits ( :D ), so maybe female lawyers are ugly in poland?
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Martinus on March 21, 2013, 07:44:50 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2013, 07:43:14 AM
Also, "condescending, pushy, entitled and arrogant " seem like lawyer traits ( :D ), so maybe female lawyers are ugly in poland?

Oh yes.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Grey Fox on March 21, 2013, 07:49:42 AM
They are all bitchy. Some just are more bitchy in public than others.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 08:00:19 AM
I'd say it's a thing.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Iormlund on March 21, 2013, 08:32:04 AM
No idea. Like Hillary says we filter out the ugly ones, so they can bitch as much as they want and it makes no difference.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: viper37 on March 21, 2013, 08:39:45 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 21, 2013, 07:49:42 AM
They are all bitchy. Some just are more bitchy in public than others.
I approve.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: derspiess on March 21, 2013, 09:00:10 AM
Well in high school and college it was usually the less attractive ones being nicer because they kind of had to and the more attractive ones acting however they wanted to act, either nice or bitchy depending on their natural disposition.  Worst combination was an ugly girl who thought she was hot and therefore figured she could get away with being bitchy.  But usually they were put in their place.

With my peer groups nowadays (30s/40s), it does seem like that has sort of flipped.  Unattractive women do seem to be more bitchy, and attractive women do seem to be nicer.  I guess one theory could be that the unattractive ones are pissed off from being ignored or treated badly and the attractive ones have less to complain about.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 21, 2013, 09:01:29 AM
Is the ugly bitchy one trying to force herself upon the pretty one?
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 21, 2013, 09:00:10 AM
Well in high school and college it was usually the less attractive ones being nicer because they kind of had to and the more attractive ones acting however they wanted to act, either nice or bitchy depending on their natural disposition.  Worst combination was an ugly girl who thought she was hot and therefore figured she could get away with being bitchy.  But usually they were put in their place.

With my peer groups nowadays (30s/40s), it does seem like that has sort of flipped.  Unattractive women do seem to be more bitchy, and attractive women do seem to be nicer.  I guess one theory could be that the unattractive ones are pissed off from being ignored or treated badly and the attractive ones have less to complain about.

I think The Forehead is on to something here.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: derspiess on March 21, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

I do.  Even the bitchy ones sometimes.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: HVC on March 21, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:
we love the pretty ones, that's something at least, right? :unsure:
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: garbon on March 21, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:
we love the pretty ones, that's something at least, right? :unsure:

Or, at least, you are more willing to tolerate their womanly bitchiness.  :P
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: HVC on March 21, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:
we love the pretty ones, that's something at least, right? :unsure:

Or, at least, you are more willing to tolerate their womanly bitchiness.  :P
that's not the same thing?
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
Not a fan of attractive, bitchy women.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: HVC on March 21, 2013, 09:16:31 AM
And besides, you should hear what women say about men :D
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 21, 2013, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2013, 09:16:31 AM
And besides, you should hear what women say about men :D

Most of the women I've worked with wished they worked with more men.  Women can be evil to one another in the workplace.
Guys can have a disagreement over policy, call each other an asshole over it, and then go to lunch together 20 minutes later.  Women?  Those slights, grudges and threats burn within them until the end of time.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Legbiter on March 21, 2013, 09:50:38 AM
Yeah, I 'd say beautiful women as a group have better personalities, are warmer, friendlier, more sweet and feminine plus they're often smarter than their more homlier cousins. Fatties often combine boring and depressive with ugly in an unholy trifecta.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
I think one place this shows clearly is at the boozarium.  Ugly women are often ugly, nasty drunks, while attractive women are rarely so.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: merithyn on March 21, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 21, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

:thumbsup:

I assumed it was just a bait to me. :P
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: 11B4V on March 21, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
Not a fan of attractive, bitchy women.

That's what makes them unattractive.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 21, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
That's what makes them unattractive.

A sweet pooper on a bitchy chick is still a sweet pooper.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: mongers on March 21, 2013, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

To be fair, the thread question was framed and started by a gay man.

Now if I'd started it, it would have been entitled "What some women are missing out on".    :D
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: 11B4V on March 21, 2013, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 21, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
That's what makes them unattractive.

A sweet pooper on a bitchy chick is still a sweet pooper.

Oh yes  that is true.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Martinus on March 21, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: merithyn on March 21, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 21, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

:thumbsup:

I assumed it was just a bait to me. :P

Not every thread about fat or ugly or bitchy women is about you. :P
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: garbon on March 21, 2013, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 21, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: merithyn on March 21, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 21, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

:thumbsup:

I assumed it was just a bait to me. :P

Not every thread about fat or ugly or bitchy women is about you. :P

True, every thread you start is in some manner about you.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: crazy canuck on March 21, 2013, 11:46:59 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

Look at who started the thread....

But yeah, if there is a Languish meme this would be a good candidate.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on March 21, 2013, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 21, 2013, 09:00:10 AM
Well in high school and college it was usually the less attractive ones being nicer because they kind of had to and the more attractive ones acting however they wanted to act, either nice or bitchy depending on their natural disposition.  Worst combination was an ugly girl who thought she was hot and therefore figured she could get away with being bitchy.  But usually they were put in their place.

With my peer groups nowadays (30s/40s), it does seem like that has sort of flipped.  Unattractive women do seem to be more bitchy, and attractive women do seem to be nicer.  I guess one theory could be that the unattractive ones are pissed off from being ignored or treated badly and the attractive ones have less to complain about.

My theory is that if a woman is bitchy then by the time she is 40 it will show in her looks.................kind of like The Picture of Dorian Gray. Goes for men too. If you spend your life pissed-off with the world it is bound to leave a mark.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: PDH on March 21, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
I will remain my normal circumspect self and not comment for a few more pages.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 21, 2013, 12:25:19 PM
No but foreigners are less bitchy.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: derspiess on March 21, 2013, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 21, 2013, 12:25:19 PM
No but foreigners are less bitchy.

Ehhhh that depends on where they're from :ph34r:
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: crazy canuck on March 21, 2013, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 21, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
I will remain my normal circumspect self and not comment for a few more pages.

We eagerly await your long term solution to this apparantly vexing problem.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 21, 2013, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 21, 2013, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 21, 2013, 12:25:19 PM
No but foreigners are less bitchy.

Ehhhh that depends on where they're from :ph34r:

If they've been in the US for an appreciable amount of time, they count as non-foreigners. They've been infected.  :P
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: garbon on March 21, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
Yahoo commentator:

QuoteHow do you describe a girl?
Start with a boy, and take away reason and accountability.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
That's a rip off from Pygmalion.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: garbon on March 21, 2013, 04:52:26 PM
I only know it form As Good As It Gets.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Ideologue on March 21, 2013, 10:02:44 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 21, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Oh man, sometimes it seems you guys just plain don't like women very much.  :lol:

How DARE you talk about fahdiz that way.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: fhdz on March 21, 2013, 10:16:31 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 21, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Some of Fahd's best friends are women.
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Ideologue on March 21, 2013, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 21, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Some of Fahd's best friends are women.

I know!
Title: Re: Are uglier women more bitchy than the pretty ones?
Post by: Martinus on March 22, 2013, 02:55:58 AM
For the record, not only some, but most of my best friends are women, both at work and in private life.

In terms of work relations, I prefer to have women bosses (more reasonable, less ego posturing), but men underlings (less likely to cry).

When negotiating, women also tend to be more reasonable and easier to reach a deal with than men, BUT unreasonable women are much worse than unreasonable men (I guess this may also stem from the fact that I have a hard time hiding my contempt for people I consider stupid, and women take it for me being a chauvinistic pig and probably react more strongly to it).