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PlayStation 4 console announced by Sony in New York
Sony has announced its next-generation gaming console - the PlayStation 4 - at an event in New York.
Its new hardware is designed to offer superior graphics as well as new social features including the sharing of recorded gameplay clips.
It will succeed the PlayStation 3, which went on sale in 2006 and has sold about 75 million units.
The PS4 will eventually compete against Microsoft's still-to-be-unveiled Xbox 360 successor and Nintendo's Wii U.
A successful launch might drive sales of the Sony's new televisions and other consumer electronics, helping turn around its fortunes.
Sony posted a 456.7bn yen loss ($4.9bn; £3.2bn) in its last financial year, marking the fourth year it ended in deficit.
But the firm has forecast a 20bn yen profit for the current financial year ending in March.
PC-based chip
Sony described the machine as being like a "supercharged" PC .
It runs off an x86-based CPU (central processing unit) - similar architecture to that found in most desktop computers - and an "enhanced" PC GPU .......
Rest of item here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21526450 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21526450)
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What a surprise announcment which absolutely nobody saw coming :o
Quote from: Tyr on February 20, 2013, 08:23:06 PM
What a surprise announcment which absolutely nobody saw coming :o
... Sarcasm?
Of course, this has been talked about for months now, yet sony are still announcing it like its a big shock announcement.
Colour me meh. I only finally got a current generation console last month.
t'aint unexpected.
Sony. :bleeding:
I've been holding Sony stock since 1998. Thank God I didn't sink all my savings into it or anything. :yuk:
Mongers, why do you care enough about this to "taint" it?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 20, 2013, 08:54:41 PM
Mongers, why do you care enough about this to "taint" it?
:P
I don't I just thought I'd get in before you did; heh, maybe I ensured it against taint and so Sony's future is assured ?
Yay! New Blood, this current generation (8) of game console has already lasted too long.
All Hail Generation 9!
I'm not gonna get one. :lol: I only got a 360 2 years ago to play Madden.
Pssht. I hate the wikipedia generation numbering.
The generation names went in bits up to 32 dammit and thereafter....um......I'm not sure.
Nintendo 64
:rolleyes:
Do a barrel roll!
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 20, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Nintendo 64
:rolleyes:
Not a proper part of the generation.
Destructoid had a look at the tech demos of the PS1-3 vs. actual release day games vs. PC games of the time_
http://www.destructoid.com/playstation-4-launch-vs-reality-don-t-believe-the-hype-246023.phtml
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/21/new-ps4-a-pc-rps-declares-victory/
QuoteNew PS4 A PC: RPS DECLARES VICTORY
At Sony's interminable live conference revealing the PS4, it was announced that it's built on an x86 CPU, includes an "enhanced PC GPU", along with a local hard drive (although no mention of SSD). And it comes with 8GB of GDDR5 memory. Also announced are other features that have that nagging sense of familiarity, including live streaming of games, and the ability to stream yourself playing games. It's a PC!
So, we say welcome Sony! Glad you've decided to join us.
:lol:
In that case haven't consoles always been PCs? PCs with common un-upgradable hardware and software, but how much difference was there in the actual workings of the console hardware and PC hardware?
Quote from: sbr on February 21, 2013, 01:30:50 AM
In that case haven't consoles always been PCs? PCs with common un-upgradable hardware and software, but how much difference was there in the actual workings of the console hardware and PC hardware?
I'm not an expert, but it seems that the PS3 at least had a CPU developed by Sony, and a GPU co-developed by Sony and nVidia.
Reading the article and doing some research: I am even less excited than I was before.
It seems their main selling point is a "Social" button on the controller. :bleeding:
That all sounds rather terrible. I hate the modern trend to try and shoehorn social media everywhere.
Quote from: sbr on February 21, 2013, 01:30:50 AM
In that case haven't consoles always been PCs? PCs with common un-upgradable hardware and software, but how much difference was there in the actual workings of the console hardware and PC hardware?
They've been slowly moving that way but I think there traditionally has been a clear practical distinction at the least with consoles being plug in a game and play affairs,
Quote from: Tyr on February 20, 2013, 09:58:44 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 20, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Nintendo 64
:rolleyes:
Not a proper part of the generation.
Now now, don't go & say stupid shit like that. It's gonna get you killed.
A summation of web reactions here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21528542 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21528542)
QuoteThe PS4 looks like it's long on promises and big-picture dreaming, but currently short on clear, concrete reasons why anyone would be tempted to buy one.
So, it's just a continuation of more of the same mindthink from Sony since before the PS3. I really don't know where their leadership wants to go with these things anymore; first, it wanted to develop the PS3 as the "centerpiece" of a consumer's multimedia life; now, it just looks like they want to make it a centerpiece of a consumer's social media life as well.
Looks to me that Sony gaming is about everything else except gaming these days. Hard to maintain brand loyalty with these kinds of decisions.
I thought EVERYONE who gamed did so while twittering and facebooking and sharing screenshots of.their lastest farmville plots.
EDIT. I supposed not everyone, there are probably still a few who chat via im while headshoting each other in cod46.
Quote from: Tyr on February 20, 2013, 08:33:45 PM
Of course, this has been talked about for months now, yet sony are still announcing it like its a big shock announcement.
WTF? No Sony just did the same thing that happens with lots of tech devices where they had an event to show it off to the press. Only "shocking" here is you getting huffy about a press event.
Map sucks.
http://www.destructoid.com/psn-purchases-will-not-carry-over-to-playstation-4-246229.phtml
QuoteIn news that is sure to encourage grimacing and facepalming, Sony has confirmed purchases made on the PlayStation Network will not carry over from PS3 to PS4. Same goes for your game saves, too. For Christ's sake, Sony ... you just couldn't resist gunning for some bad PR.
Shuhei Yoshida told a roundtable (including our own Dale North) the PS4's innards are too different from the PS3, and the company is trying to avoid draining the system's power with emulation. Although plans are being looked into to get PS3 games playable in some form on the system, it appears anything you do right now on the PS3 will remain bound there.
Expect PS3 games to be available for streaming on the system at some point in time. Whether we'll be paying for the privilege or not remains to be seen.
So ... great. Just great. Guess it was asking too much to get through the week without something like this.
I've never really understood the obsession with backwards compatibility. Your PS3 doesnt stop working the day you buy the PS4 and it's not like they're so big storing 2 of them should be that much of an issue and I would rather they spent the time and power on new shit, instead of making old shit work on the new platform.
I suppose some people might sell one to buy the other but that is a them problem, not a Sony problem.
I will squeeze them both in my cabinet somehow.
It might be of interest to people who are new to Sony (like me - have a 360) consoles if the back catalog for the PS3 was also available for this platform.
I agree, if you have the old console already it'll probably have less bearing on your buying decision.
Quote from: sbr on February 21, 2013, 10:40:40 AM
I've never really understood the obsession with backwards compatibility. Your PS3 doesnt stop working the day you buy the PS4 and it's not like they're so big storing 2 of them should be that much of an issue and I would rather they spent the time and power on new shit, instead of making old shit work on the new platform.
I suppose some people might sell one to buy the other but that is a them problem, not a Sony problem.
Well it is a little obnoxious to either have to unpack the old one when you want to play an older game or as lusti said, fitting them both into your cabinet space.
Meanwhile on the PC - you can go for quite sometime before you have issues running older games on your newer machine.
Quote from: Wario64I think there's no hardware reveal yet cause Sony is gonna announce the Kickstarter tomorrow
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