http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/applebees-waitress-fired-pastor-receipt-193820748.html
QuoteApplebee's fires waitress who posted receipt from pastor complaining about auto-tip
An Applebee's waitress who posted a receipt with a note from a pastor complaining about the automatic gratuity added to the bill on the Internet was fired on Wednesday after the pastor complained to her manager.
Chelsea Welch, the waitress, wrote in an email to Yahoo News that the pastor (who has since been identified as Alois Bell) told Welch's manager at the St. Louis-area Applebee's that the ensuing firestorm had "ruined" her reputation.
"I give God 10%," Bell wrote on the receipt, scratching out the automatic tip and scribbling in an emphatic "0" where the additional tip would be. "Why do you get 18?" (There were more than eight people in Bell's party, triggering the auto-tip.)
Welch, who snapped a photo of the bill from a fellow server and uploaded to Reddit, defended her right to post the receipt. "I thought the note was insulting, but also comical," she told Consumerist.com. "And I thought other users would find it entertaining."
Bell, a pastor at Truth in the World Deliverance Ministries Church, was not amused, and she called Welch's manager to complain.
"[It was] a lapse in my character and judgment," Bell told the Smoking Gun, adding she did not expect her easily recognizable signature would be, as her friend informed her, "all over Yahoo. You went viral!"
"My heart is really broken," Bell added. "I've brought embarrassment to my church and ministry."
A spokesman for Applebee's said it apologized to Bell for violating her "right to privacy" and confirmed that Welch "is no longer employed by the franchise."
Welch was surprised that Applebee's fired her, "especially because there was nothing specific in the employee handbook admonishing this behavior."
"I had no intention of starting a witch hunt or hurting anyone. I just wanted to share a picture I found interesting," she said. "I come home exhausted, sore, burnt, dirty and blistered on a good day. And after all that, I can be fired for 'embarrassing' someone who directly insults their server on religious grounds."
Welch also isn't buying Bell's embarrassment. "If this person wrote the note, obviously they wanted it seen by someone," she said. "I've been stiffed on tips before, but this is the first time I've seen the Big Man used as reasoning."
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They summarized the whole situation oddly. There is an article already that directly counters this in that the handbook does speak specifically to photos taken by employees - though it says disciplinary actions can be taken up to firing.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/applebees-defends-firing-waitress-pastor-receipt-192100973.html
QuoteEmployees must honor the privacy rights of APPLEBEE's and its employees by seeking permission before writing about or displaying internal APPLEBEE'S happenings that might be considered to be a breach of privacy and confidentiality. This shall include, but not be limited to, posting of photographs, video, or audio of APPLEBEE'S employees or its customers, suppliers, agents or competitors, without first obtaining written approval from the Vice President of Operations. The policy goes on to specify: Employees who violate this policy will be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment.
Quoteposting of photographs, video, or audio of APPLEBEE'S employees or its customers, suppliers, agents or competitors
[nitpick]A signed receipt is none of the above int he strict sense.[/nitpick]
I see you cut out the not limited to. ;)
Although as some have pointed out, this franchise has had no problem posting receipts in the past on their facebook page without consent.
Quote from: Syt on February 02, 2013, 09:19:19 AM
A signed receipt is none of the above int he strict sense.[/nitpick]
This is NOT an unusual thing among franchises and chains in the service sector. Exec summary: taking pictures at work needs to be authorized by someone higher than you, or your ass is on the line.
I doubt Missouri law operates to incorporate the handbook into the contract, or whatever that language is. It (almost certainly) doesn't matter whether it was in the handbook or not.
Sucks for the waitress, as Bell's public shaming was deserved. At the same time, I understand the mechanical reasoning behind firing Welch (though I question if firing someone who struck back in a largely socially appropriate manner for being belittled by a customer in a really obnoxious way is worse PR for Applebee's than having an employee who 'violates' a made-up 'right to privacy'--I've never noticed any NDA language on my restaurant checks nor am I aware of any statutory provisions that operate to prohibit the sharing of what someone has tipped).
Also, I question her shitty second-hand bon mot. If Bell is a pastor, isn't Bell actually the temporal recipient of "God's tips"?
Bitch got what she deserved.
Pastor was a d-bag, waitress is awesome for posting pic, and who gives a shit if you get fired from Applebees anyway?
It's not like that is going to be a tough job to replace.
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2013, 11:21:58 AM
Pastor was a d-bag
And innumerate. A tithe is 10% of income, not 10% of a restaurant bill.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2013, 11:21:58 AM
Pastor was a d-bag, waitress is awesome for posting pic, and who gives a shit if you get fired from Applebees anyway?
It's not like that is going to be a tough job to replace.
The manager at the Chili's across the street is already scheming about the PR possibilities. She's got flair.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Patty melt? Yuk.
And I tip handsomely. Ask the cute waitresses.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Patty melt? Yuk.
And I tip handsomely. Ask the cute waitresses.
Uh oh. Now Berkut will rage on you and state that the cute ones don't generate more value than the ugly ones.
Quote from: The Brain on February 02, 2013, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Patty melt? Yuk.
And I tip handsomely. Ask the cute waitresses.
Uh oh. Now Berkut will rage on you and state that the cute ones don't generate more value than the ugly ones.
And I will laugh at him. I win.
Stupid firing, bad PR and all that, though not surprising that taking photos at work is banned it is pretty surprising it leads so strictly to being fired automatically.
Though the system is broke too, autotip? Pfft, hate it when places do that, defeats the point.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 02, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
If Bell is a pastor, isn't Bell actually the temporal recipient of "God's tips"?
Looks like the Truth in the World Deliverance Ministries Church is your typical 501(c)3 dazzling-urbanite-church-in-an-old-Stuckey's-restaurant operation, anyway. Just checked with the Home Office in Rome: not real church.
lol, great retort I found on the intrawebs to the pastor:
QuoteJesus tipped well at the last supper. He tipped with his life, Alois.
Fake Church :face:
Perhaps the service was shitty?
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2013, 11:21:58 AM
Pastor was a d-bag, waitress is awesome for posting pic, and who gives a shit if you get fired from Applebees anyway?
It's not like that is going to be a tough job to replace.
Why was he a douche bag? If the tip is automatic, it's not a tip anymore but a surcharge imposed by the restaurant. If they are not telling this up front to customers, they are frauds.
Tip is something you give for good service. It's not a "right".
Quote from: The Brain on February 02, 2013, 11:49:55 AMUh oh. Now Berkut will rage on you and state that the cute ones don't generate more value than the ugly ones.
I tip cute guys more.
Any place that adds an auto-tip for large parties has it stated in writing on every menu ay least, there is loyalty a sign somewhere as well.
How easy the disclaimers are too find I can't say.
Quote from: Martinus on February 02, 2013, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2013, 11:21:58 AM
Pastor was a d-bag, waitress is awesome for posting pic, and who gives a shit if you get fired from Applebees anyway?
It's not like that is going to be a tough job to replace.
Why was he a douche bag? If the tip is automatic, it's not a tip anymore but a surcharge imposed by the restaurant. If they are not telling this up front to customers, they are frauds.
Tip is something you give for good service. It's not a "right".
Pastor was a chick.
Also the Pastor came in and demanded everyone who was working there that night be fired. So yeah, she's a bitch.
Quote from: The Brain on February 02, 2013, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Patty melt? Yuk.
And I tip handsomely. Ask the cute waitresses.
Uh oh. Now Berkut will rage on you and state that the cute ones don't generate more value than the ugly ones.
The cute ones most certainly do generate more value than the ugly ones.
Dumbass.
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2013, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 02, 2013, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Patty melt? Yuk.
And I tip handsomely. Ask the cute waitresses.
Uh oh. Now Berkut will rage on you and state that the cute ones don't generate more value than the ugly ones.
The cute ones most certainly do generate more value than the ugly ones.
Dumbass.
I don't think we have cute waitresses in England :crooked teeth smile:
Do Euroes even give tips?
Quote from: Razgovory on February 02, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Do Euroes even give tips?
All the time, what do you think we're all doing on this forum. And Americans seem to appreciate the advice. :P
Well most of you guys aren't circumcised so I didn't think you had any tips laying around to give.
Quote from: mongers on February 02, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 02, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Do Euroes even give tips?
All the time, what do you think we're all doing on this forum. And Americans seem to appreciate the advice. :P
:lol:
Well played, Sir.
What does the waitress Chelsea Welch look like?
Quote from: Phillip V on February 02, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
What does the waitress Chelsea Welch look like?
Yeah, this was my very first response to the thread, so I googled and didn't come up with anything.
My 'rational' is if she's cute, she gets a pass; if similar to the pastor, I don't give a toss. :P
To appease the usual Languish physiognomists...
...presuming "The Smoking Gun" site has accurate sources...
Pastor:
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Waitress:
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Pastor is racist against whites.
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2013, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 02, 2013, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Bitch got what she deserved.
I hope somebody spooges in your next patty melt. Yes sir, of course it comes with dressing. Asshole.
Patty melt? Yuk.
And I tip handsomely. Ask the cute waitresses.
Uh oh. Now Berkut will rage on you and state that the cute ones don't generate more value than the ugly ones.
The cute ones most certainly do generate more value than the ugly ones.
Dumbass.
Your memory disappoints me.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 02, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Do Euroes even give tips?
Depends. In Austria, you usually give 5-10%, with 10 being very high. If you're under 20 EUR, you usually round up to the next full Euro, and then add one to three EUR as tip. E.g. 15.80 => 16.- => pay 17.- or 18.-
What surprises me is people in supermarkets telling the cashier to keep the change (if it's very low, like under 20 cents). Mostly it's people who by all appearances live off welfare/minimum pension.