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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: jimmy olsen on February 01, 2013, 09:26:42 AM

Title: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 01, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
Looks like the congressional fight over embassy security has just been reignited, though an attack like this is basically impossible to stop any better than is done here, seeing as the attacker didn't get past the first checkpoint.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/01/16804949-police-sources-suicide-bomber-kills-at-least-3-at-us-embassy-compound-in-turkey?lite

QuotePolice sources: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy compound in Turkey

By Richard Engel, Aziz Akyavas and Ian Johnston, NBC News

A suicide bomber blew himself up at an entrance to the U.S. Embassy compound in Ankara on Friday, killing at least three people, Turkish police sources said.

The bomber got to the first X-ray machine leading to the visa section, the sources added.

U.S. Ambassador Francis Ricciardione told reporters that a guard at the gate was killed and a Turkish citizen was wounded in the blast, which happened at 1:15 p.m. local time (6:15 a.m. ET), The Associated Press reported.

An AP journalist saw a body in the street outside, but it was unclear whether this was the guard or someone else.

Turkish television footage showed smoke rising from the area and the heavily damaged door, which led to a side street.

A call to the embassy's main number at about 2:10 p.m. local time (7:10 a.m. ET) was not answered.

Speaking at about the same time, State Department spokesman Harry Edwards said that he did not yet have any details on the explosion and could not immediately confirm any attack.

A message on the embassy's Twitter account at about 7:40 a.m. ET confirmed that an explosion had taken place.

"Appropriate measures were taken," it added, saying it would provide more information when it became available.

A BBC journalist near the scene, Golnar Motevalli, said police had barricaded the road and she could see three or four ambulances and a fire truck.

She said the situation was "extremely chaotic" and that police sirens were "going off everywhere."

The Associated Press noted groups tied to al-Qaida had attacked U.S. and U.K. consulates in the past:

    Homegrown Islamic militants tied to al-Qaida have carried out suicide bombings in Istanbul, killing 58, in 2003. The targets were the British consulate, a British bank and two synagogues.

    In 2008, an attack blamed on al-Qaida-affiliated militants outside the U.S. Consulate in Istanbul left three assailants and three policemen dead.

    In the November 2003 attack on the British consulate , a suspected Islamic militant rammed an explosive-laden pickup truck into the main gate, killing British Consul-General, Roger Short, and his assistant, Lisa Hallworth.

The State Department says on its website that 15 people who claimed they were associated with al-Qaida were arrested in July 2011 for gathering explosive materials in preparation for an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Ankara.

It adds that this and other incidents "show a willingness on the part of some terrorist groups to attack identifiably Western targets. The possibility of terrorist attacks, from both transnational and indigenous groups, remains high."

The State Department posting said the PKK Kurdish rebel group was the "most active terrorist organization in Turkey." It said the PKK had historically targeted Turkish government and military interests, but had recently "threatened increased violent activity in Turkey's urban areas, and there is credible information suggesting that it intends to continue targeting tourist areas as well."

Earlier this month, about 400 U.S. personnel arrived at Turkey's Incirlik Air Base to support the deployment of a NATO Patriot missile battery to help defend the country from possible incursions by Syria's forces during that country's ongoing civil war.

NBC News' John Newland and Alastair Jamieson contributed to this report.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: merithyn on February 01, 2013, 09:30:51 AM
Blame Obama! It's a conspiracy!  :tinfoil:  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: sbr on February 01, 2013, 09:54:39 AM
They should stop including the suicide bomber when mentioning the number of casualties.   

EDIT:  AT least in headlines like this.  The suicide bomber killed 2; the third was implied,
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
Well, McCain should be happy.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
Well, McCain should be happy.

Why?
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 10:43:08 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
Well, McCain should be happy.

Why?

Can do more grandstanding.  Maybe we can have some hearing where Rand Paul can tell John Kerry that he would fire him.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2013, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
Well, McCain should be happy.

Heh,  That sounds like something Hans would have said about Democrats and Iraq War casualties.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: mongers on February 01, 2013, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: sbr on February 01, 2013, 09:54:39 AM
They should stop including the suicide bomber when mentioning the number of casualties.   

EDIT:  AT least in headlines like this.  The suicide bomber killed 2; the third was implied,

Yes, that always annoys me.

Plus they miss out on the good news story:
"Suicide bomber fails to kill anyone"
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2013, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
Well, McCain should be happy.

Heh,  That sounds like something Hans would have said about Democrats and Iraq War casualties.

So do you think we'll have the regular suspects jumping at the chance to blame Obama administration or not?
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2013, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
So do you think we'll have the regular suspects jumping at the chance to blame Obama administration or not?

We'll see.  I doubt it, this sounds like a vastly different situation.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2013, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
So do you think we'll have the regular suspects jumping at the chance to blame Obama administration or not?

We'll see.  I doubt it, this sounds like a vastly different situation.

Okay, if a Republican congressmen or Senator blames the Obama administration for this, you owe me a Dr. Pepper.  If not, I'll buy you a soda.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
Regular suspects usually denotes some sort of pattern of behavior.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:02:49 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
Regular suspects usually denotes some sort of pattern of behavior.

And?
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2013, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:02:49 AM
And?

And there is not one.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 11:27:46 AM
You got a little ahead of yourself there, Raz.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:42:52 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2013, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:02:49 AM
And?

And there is not one.

Oh, there isn't a pattern amongst Republican Congressmen in blaming Obama?
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:42:52 AM
Oh, there isn't a pattern amongst Republican Congressmen in blaming Obama?

:rolleyes:

There's a pattern among Democrats of blaming everything on Bush.  I suppose that makes them regular suspects as well.

I'm inclined to agree with Speesh.  Talk to you again in a day or two Raz.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:49:42 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 11:42:52 AM
Oh, there isn't a pattern amongst Republican Congressmen in blaming Obama?

:rolleyes:

There's a pattern among Democrats of blaming everything on Bush.  I suppose that makes them regular suspects as well.

I'm inclined to agree with Speesh.  Talk to you again in a day or two Raz.

Non-Responsive.  You have a chance to answer again.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 12:47:12 PM
Seriously, Raz.  How about you wait until McCain actually blames Obama for this before you rag on him for blaming Obama for this.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2013, 12:49:13 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2013, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
Well, McCain should be happy.

Heh,  That sounds like something Hans would have said about Democrats and Iraq War casualties.

Yeah, well too fucking bad.  What comes around goes around.

The United States government cannot rest until it finds the parties responsible for this abhorrent attack in the State Department.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: DGuller on February 01, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 12:47:12 PM
Seriously, Raz.  How about you wait until McCain actually blames Obama for this before you rag on him for blaming Obama for this.
What would be the point of making a prediction then, if not to predict the future?  Given the nature of Raz's prediction, he has a very narrow window to get it published before the future becomes the present.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
All I must do is wait for one Senator or Congressmen to blame Obama.  I wonder how long that will take.  Will it happen tonight, or will they wait for the Sunday shows?
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
All I must do is wait for one Senator or Congressmen to blame Obama.  I wonder how long that will take.  Will it happen tonight, or will they wait for the Sunday shows?

Okay, let us know how that goes :)
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 03:29:21 PM
You think I wouldn't tell you? :lol:
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2013, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 03:29:21 PM
You think I wouldn't tell you? :lol:

Just wanna make sure you don't forget :hug:
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: citizen k on February 01, 2013, 07:22:45 PM
Suicide bomber was a Marxist.

Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 01, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
While funny if true, color me skeptical.  The Turks are very quick to blame the Kurds, and this doesn't seem to be their M.O.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Sheilbh on February 02, 2013, 08:20:07 AM
Not at the minute. The government's being very friendly with the Kurds right now. Also, they've not blamed the Kurds.

They think it was a DHKP-C member. Which is plausible. They've a history of political violence and suicide bombing.
Title: Re: Suicide bomber kills at least 3 at US Embassy in Turkey
Post by: Razgovory on February 02, 2013, 02:20:03 PM
Oh, I assumed they meant the PKK.