I find it amazing some of the countries that have had a female head of government before the U.S.
South Korea obviously isn't as surprising as Pakistan, but gender relations here are still about 50 years behind the U.S.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/19/16019851-ex-military-rulers-daughter-voted-new-leader-of-south-korea
QuoteEx-military ruler's daughter voted new leader of South Korea
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South Korea's first female leader, Park Geun-Hye.
By Julie Yoo, NBC News
Park Geun-hye, the daughter of a former military ruler became the South Korea's first female leader Wednesday, saying she would work to heal a divided society.
The 60-year old conservative, will return to the presidential palace in Seoul where she served as her father's first lady in the 1970s, after her mother was assassinated by a North Korean-backed gunman.
News agency Yonhap said the result could have profound impacts on the country's foreign policy, particularly with regard to its Communist neighbor, North Korea.
Park has said she would negotiate with Kim Jong-un, the youthful leader of North Korea who recently celebrated a year in office, but wants the South's isolated and impoverished neighbor to give up its nuclear weapons program as a precondition for aid, something Pyongyang has refused to do.
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With more than 88 percent of votes in the country's presidential election counted, Park led with 51.6 percent to 48 percent for her left-wing challenger, human rights lawyer Moon Jae-in, giving her an unassailable lead that forced Moon to concede.
PhotoBlog: South Korea elects its first female president
Her raucous, jubilant supporters braved sub-zero temperatures to chant her name and wave South Korean flags outside her house. When she reached her party headquarters, Park was greeted with shouts of "president".
An elated Park reached into the crowd to grasp hands of supporters wearing red scarves, her party's color.
"This is a victory brought by the people's hope for overcoming crisis and for economic recovery," she told supporters at a rally in central Seoul.
Park is unmarried and has no children, saying that her life will be devoted to her country.
The legacy of her father, Park Chung-hee, who ruled for 18 years and transformed the country from the ruins of the 1950-53 Korean War into an industrial power-house, still divides Koreans.
"I trust her. She will save our country," said Park Hye-sook, 67, who voted in an affluent Seoul district, earlier in the day.
Has South Korea had a black president yet?
Unfortunately, the United States has no daughters of former assassinated American dictators to run for President.
Caroline Kennedy came closest, but her U.S. Senate bid failed.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 20, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
Has South Korea had a black president yet?
They don't have black people, but America does have women, so it's not a fair comparison.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 20, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
Has South Korea had a black president yet?
Yeah, no shit. Stick that in your pocket and smoke it, Seoul.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2012, 01:37:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 20, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
Has South Korea had a black president yet?
They don't have black people
That's because South Koreans hate black people.
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 03:21:56 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2012, 01:37:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 20, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
Has South Korea had a black president yet?
They don't have black people
That's because South Koreans hate black people.
18th century Europeans hated black people too, but somehow they ended up with a whole lot of them in their colonies, so I'm going to have to go with geographic and historical realities being the reason why S. Korea doesn't have black people.
I find it most amazing the daughter of the old dictator is not only is able to make a succesful career for herself but to have people vote for her to be president.
Does she have a boyfriend?
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 03:21:56 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2012, 01:37:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 20, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
Has South Korea had a black president yet?
They don't have black people
That's because South Koreans hate black people.
Can you blame them? Always rioting and smashing up their stores...
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2012, 12:24:04 AM
I find it amazing some of the countries that have had a female head of government before the U.S.
South Korea obviously isn't as surprising as Pakistan, but gender relations here are still about 50 years behind the U.S.
Not really the same when the woman is in there because a husband or father came before her.
Yeah in these cases it is almost always a dynastic deal.
Jenna Bush has just a few years to become eligible.
Why does Tim hate America :(
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
Yeah in these cases it is almost always a dynastic deal.
This is what I was thinking. Other than Margaret Thatcher, are there any women who came to power without a family history of male rulers?
Linda Lovelace?
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
Yeah in these cases it is almost always a dynastic deal.
Jenna Bush has just a few years to become eligible.
Vote Barbara Bush.
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Quote from: merithyn on December 20, 2012, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
Yeah in these cases it is almost always a dynastic deal.
This is what I was thinking. Other than Margaret Thatcher, are there any women who came to power without a family history of male rulers?
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf
President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff
President Michelle Bachelet of Chile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Bachelet (restricted to one term ending 2010, though can run again in 2013)
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 20, 2012, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
Yeah in these cases it is almost always a dynastic deal.
This is what I was thinking. Other than Margaret Thatcher, are there any women who came to power without a family history of male rulers?
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf
President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff
This is why I said 'almost always' with 190+ countries I knew there had to be at least a couple more out there :P
Quote from: PDH on December 20, 2012, 09:17:27 AM
Why does Tim hate America :(
He's gone native. He is now Dances With Gucksu.
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf
President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff
Oh, cool. I'd never heard of either of these women, but their stories are remarkable. Thank you. :)
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 09:25:22 AM
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Nishe.
Golda Meir. I think the president of Nigeria is a chick too.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 20, 2012, 09:40:39 AM
Golda Meir.
I'm not sure why, but I always thought that she had a politician father. Reading up, obviously not.
Quote from: merithyn on December 20, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf
President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff
Oh, cool. I'd never heard of either of these women, but their stories are remarkable. Thank you. :)
There have been bucketloads of female heads of state or government, it's no longer a matter of two or three honourable exceptions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_government)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state)
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 20, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf
President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff
Oh, cool. I'd never heard of either of these women, but their stories are remarkable. Thank you. :)
There have been bucketloads of female heads of state or government, it's no longer a matter of two or three honourable exceptions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_government)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state)
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
That's still only a fraction of current countries that have an incumbent female leader. We need 50-50 rule.(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.backupot.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fhitler.gif&hash=da70bf1b11b72337091def9a2f36deaad598254f)
Quote from: Phillip V on December 20, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
That's still only a fraction of current countries that have an incumbent female leader. We need 50-50 rule.(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.backupot.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fhitler.gif&hash=da70bf1b11b72337091def9a2f36deaad598254f)
:huh:
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
Ok what I was specifically talking about is countries where women are doing pretty badly as a group, like in Pakistan, but have had a female head of state. I just want to clarify before everybody brings up Sweden or something.
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
Ok what I was specifically talking about is countries where women are doing pretty badly as a group, like in Pakistan, but have had a female head of state. I just want to clarify before everybody brings up Sweden or something.
Actually Sweden has never had a female head of state or government yet. :p
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Each of the coloured countries has had some sort of female leadership.
I don't think Kim Campbell really counts.
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
Ok what I was specifically talking about is countries where women are doing pretty badly as a group, like in Pakistan, but have had a female head of state. I just want to clarify before everybody brings up Sweden or something.
Actually Sweden has never had a female head of state or government yet. :p
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Each of the coloured countries has had some sort of female leadership.
Post-modern Queens don't count.
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 20, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
Ok what I was specifically talking about is countries where women are doing pretty badly as a group, like in Pakistan, but have had a female head of state. I just want to clarify before everybody brings up Sweden or something.
Actually Sweden has never had a female head of state or government yet. :p
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Each of the coloured countries has had some sort of female leadership.
Post-modern Queens don't count.
That map doesn't include Monarchs.
We've had female heads of state. Worked kinda meh.
Quote from: Maximus on December 20, 2012, 11:56:13 AM
I don't think Kim Campbell really counts.
If they're counting Heads of State they might also be counting Adrienne Clarkson and Jean Sauve (though they technically aren't our Head of State).
Powerless parliamentary presidents shouldn't count either. :mad:
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 20, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2012, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 20, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Granted that more than a few of those are through family connections, but plenty were elected on their own merits.
Ok what I was specifically talking about is countries where women are doing pretty badly as a group, like in Pakistan, but have had a female head of state. I just want to clarify before everybody brings up Sweden or something.
Actually Sweden has never had a female head of state or government yet. :p
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Each of the coloured countries has had some sort of female leadership.
Post-modern Queens don't count.
That map doesn't include Monarchs.
The map colors in a country if it has had an "acting" female leader for as little as 2 days, such as Ecuador and Madagascar.