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Title: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 12:10:26 PM
Sounds like somebody's about to get...

*puts on sunglasses*

a severance. :menace:  :cool:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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American jihadi booted out of Somali branch of al Qaeda


By Larry Shaughnessy

It turns out al Qaeda has the same problem as ordinary companies with employees who spout off on the Internet, making their bosses look bad.

Al-Shabaab, the Somali branch of al Qaeda, booted Abu Mansour al-Amriki out of the group after he posted video messages contrary to the terrorist organization's teachings.

Al-Amriki, who was born Omar Hammami in a suburb of Mobile, Alabama, had become a highly visible member of the group that once dominated central and southern Somalia.

For a time, al-Amriki was a key recruiter for the group, attracting Americans of Somali heritage to the country to fight for the terrorist group.

But things changed in March when al-Amriki posted a video saying he felt like he was at risk. "I feel that my life may be endangered by Harakat Shabaab al-Mujahideen due to some differences that occurred between us regarding matters of the sharia and matters of strategy."

Then in October, he posted another video, calling on jihadi leaders to intervene and ease problems between Somali and foreign terrorist fighters.

In response, the press office of al-Shabaab, released a statement Monday calling al-Amriki's videos "childish petulance."

The statement said he is no longer a member of the group and that its goals will not be derailed by the "the superficial allegations, frivolous ramblings and whimsical desires of those who wish to enhance their image at the price of Jihad and the Mujahideen."

It's not clear what will happen to al-Amriki, or Hammami, depending on what name he'll now use, but it's unlikely he'll return to the United States because he's been indicted in federal court on terrorism charges.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:15:45 PM
 :ph34r:  This was a long time coming.  I was wondering when it would become official.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:24:22 PM
al-Shabaab has two wings - the 'nationalist' wing and the 'internationalist' wing (sound familiar?)

The Somalis who want to focus on toppling the government are not thrilled with AQ and the foreign fighters coming in and interfering with what they regard as Priority #1...

The AQ-aligned wing is less concerned with handing al-Shabaab total control in Somalia (once secure in their country, what is the motivation to dance ((or pretend to dance)) to AQ's tune?  The FFs also wish to use Somalia as a base of operations to strike external targets, something the 'nationalists' think is a waste of resources.

Hammami (who is of Syrian-American persuasion) is not a Somali and is not trusted by the Somalis. 

Nobody likes pushy outsiders coming to 'help' and then overplay their hand.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
It's always so sad to read about people not getting along.  Why can't these guys just sit down and talk about their differences?  :(
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Also, to clarify - it's probably better to word this as "American jihadi gets fired by Al-Shabaab" - it's more exact... as AQ and AS are not exact analogues, as I mentioned above.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
It's always so sad to read about people not getting along.  Why can't these guys just sit down and talk about their differences?  :(

They have been.  You know how well that works, both here and there.
I'm glad that there's internal problems - if they're fighting each other, so much the better.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
:weep:  I'm firing nothing but blanks today.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 18, 2012, 12:40:07 PM
Quote"I feel that my life may be endangered by Harakat Shabaab al-Mujahideen due to some differences that occurred between us regarding matters of the sharia and matters of strategy."

His ass needs to worry more about a Global Hawk than getting booted to increase shareholder value.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 18, 2012, 12:40:07 PM
Quote"I feel that my life may be endangered by Harakat Shabaab al-Mujahideen due to some differences that occurred between us regarding matters of the sharia and matters of strategy."

His ass needs to worry more about a Global Hawk than getting booted to increase shareholder value.

It's better that he gets drilled by Somalis - he's gone with no blood on our hands.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Also, to clarify - it's probably better to word this as "American jihadi gets fired by Al-Shabaab" - it's more exact... as AQ and AS are not exact analogues, as I mentioned above.
Not sensational enough. :sleep:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
:weep:  I'm firing nothing but blanks today.

It's cheaper than condoms.   :P
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 18, 2012, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
It's better that he gets drilled by Somalis - he's gone with no blood on our hands.

No it's not.  Somali scores don't show on our leaderboard.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 18, 2012, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
It's better that he gets drilled by Somalis - he's gone with no blood on our hands.

No it's not.  Somali scores don't show on our leaderboard.

The result is the same.  We don't need the drama involved with the US offing a US person, jihadi or not.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 18, 2012, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
The result is the same.  We don't need the drama involved with the US offing a US person, jihadi or not.

Oh fuck, don't tell me you too?  We're all stocked up on ZOMG DOO PROCESS weenies here as it is.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Also, to clarify - it's probably better to word this as "American jihadi gets fired by Al-Shabaab" - it's more exact... as AQ and AS are not exact analogues, as I mentioned above.
Not sensational enough. :sleep:

Glad to see that accuracy matters.   :P
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Glad to see that accuracy matters.   :P
You can call me 'Fox'. :cool:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 18, 2012, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
The result is the same.  We don't need the drama involved with the US offing a US person, jihadi or not.

Oh fuck, don't tell me you too?  We're all stocked up on ZOMG DOO PROCESS weenies here as it is.

My professional opinion is that it makes my job easier to do things correctly, and not feed conspiracy theorists along the way.
I care not a fig if Hammami lives or dies, and would prefer to have him killed by his erstwhile allies and that would leave the US out of it, and avoids all the stupid bullshit that comes with us offing him.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 01:18:26 PM
Ten bucks says B. Hussein sends Delta on the next high profile job instead of SEAL 6.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 01:18:26 PM
Ten bucks says B. Hussein sends Delta on the next high profile job instead of SEAL 6.  :ph34r:

I doubt it, since it's a USN admiral in command of SOCOM.  :contract:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 01:20:25 PM
I doubt it, since it's a USN admiral in command of SOCOM.  :contract:

Then an easy 10 skins for you. :ph34r:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 01:30:21 PM
The Army has been benched, Amateur Hour is over.  We got called in to clean up the mess.   :nelson:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Alcibiades on December 18, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
Navy loves their publicity....and then telling everybody who will listen all the details.   :lol:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Neil on December 18, 2012, 04:02:47 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 01:14:52 PM
My professional opinion is that it makes my job easier to do things correctly, and not feed conspiracy theorists along the way.
I care not a fig if Hammami lives or dies, and would prefer to have him killed by his erstwhile allies and that would leave the US out of it, and avoids all the stupid bullshit that comes with us offing him.
My professional opinion is that killing bad guys is always correct.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 18, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
Navy loves their publicity....and then telling everybody who will listen all the details.   :lol:
You're all really really good at killing people, ok?  :hug:
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: chipwich on December 18, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on December 18, 2012, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2012, 01:18:26 PM
Ten bucks says B. Hussein sends Delta on the next high profile job instead of SEAL 6.  :ph34r:

I doubt it, since it's a USN admiral in command of SOCOM.  :contract:

Wouldn't that make it just a likely to be Marines next time?
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Tonitrus on December 18, 2012, 10:02:44 PM
Marines like to pretend they have nothing to do with the Navy.  :P
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: DGuller on December 18, 2012, 10:03:29 PM
It took them more than half a year to fire him?  What did they do, put him on progressive discipline?
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 10:05:32 PM
Al-Bhaab and Al-Bhaab fixed the glitch, inshallah.
Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Alcibiades on December 18, 2012, 10:35:57 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 18, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 18, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
Navy loves their publicity....and then telling everybody who will listen all the details.   :lol:
You're all really really good at killing people, ok?  :hug:

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Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
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Title: Re: American jihadi gets fired by Al-Qaeda
Post by: Alcibiades on December 18, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
Yup, I love that genetically disordered little mutant.  Would totally change my avatar if the count hadn't died.