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Title: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: mongers on December 01, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
Is this guy well known, a star player ?

Quote
NFL player Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend and self

Jovan Belcher was a first-team linebacker for the Chiefs

Kansas City Chiefs American football player Jovan Belcher has killed himself outside the team's main stadium.

Police said the 25-year-old first-team linebacker shot his girlfriend dead a few miles away, before driving to a training facility at Arrowhead Stadium.

He then shot himself in the car park in front of team officials.

Rest of item here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20568348 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20568348)
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Ed Anger on December 01, 2012, 04:44:05 PM
Nope. Never heard of him.

Chiefs suck anyways.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Caliga on December 01, 2012, 05:25:42 PM
I saw that article and wondered if he offed himself because he was a Chief. :blush:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Ed Anger on December 01, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
I'm not going to feel sorry for a murdering piece of shit.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 01, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 01, 2012, 05:25:42 PM
I saw that article and wondered if he offed himself because he was a Chief. :blush:

I saw another post saying something like "He must have been watching Chiefs game film."  :lol: :blush:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Neil on December 01, 2012, 07:26:05 PM
Some dudes have trouble with cheating women.

Still, I guess if a woman wants to try and steal your money, and you want to go totally scorched earth, I suppose that's a man's perogative.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2012, 07:56:57 PM
Did it in front of GM Scott Pioli and head coach Romeo Crennel. :(

Orphaned a ten week old infant. :(
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2012, 08:02:19 PM
Apparently his mother was staying with them at the time, visiting.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
Is this guy well known, a star player ?

A Maine Bear, not too many of them around.  Didn't know he was undrafted, but made it from a walk-on nobody to starting in 4 years.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
So, they're going to play the game tomorrow. If this can't get a game postponed, what can? Would he have had to gun Pioli and Crennel as well?
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2012, 08:19:16 PM
NFL coaches are always prepared for game day.  NEXT MAN UP.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2012, 08:23:49 PM
QuoteAccording to a friend of Kasandra Perkins, the woman killed today by Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher, the couple argued in the early morning hours after the woman was out late attending Friday's Trey Songz concert at The Midland.

The friend, who asked not to be identified, said Belcher confronted Perkins when she returned home about 1 a.m.

The couple had dated about three years and argued frequently, the friend said, but she wasn't aware of any prior physical abuse.

As news spread that Belcher had killed Perkins and then himself, several friends of the victim gathered outside the couple's home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in Kansas City.

Another friend, Jennifer Ashley, said Perkins was a student at Blue River Community College in Independence and wanted to be a school teacher. She said the victim had started dating Belcher after being introduced to him by the girlfriend of another Chiefs player.

Belcher, originally from Long Island, N.Y., had been with the Chiefs for four years. He joined the team as an undrafted free agent out of the University of Maine.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Neil on December 01, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
I read that as:  Out late getting dicked.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Razgovory on December 01, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
I read that as:  Out late getting dicked.

Well, it would appear he got the last penetration.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
If this can't get a game postponed, what can?
Are you nuts?
QuoteWould he have had to gun Pioli and Crennel as well?

That wouldn't do it either.  Either the entire team dies in a plane crash or the host city gets hit with a mongo natural disaster.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: mongers on December 01, 2012, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
If this can't get a game postponed, what can?
Are you nuts?
QuoteWould he have had to gun Pioli and Crennel as well?

That wouldn't do it either.  Either the entire team dies in a plane crash or the host city gets hit with a mongo natural disaster.

Is global warming big enough ? :unsure:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Neil on December 01, 2012, 09:08:05 PM
No.  That's not a disaster.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2012, 09:08:14 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2012, 09:04:54 PM
Is global warming big enough ? :unsure:

Are you kidding? Think of the concession sales.  That's a lot of liquids.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Phillip V on December 02, 2012, 10:40:44 AM
Relationships are dangerous.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Kleves on December 02, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
Now, the real question is: does this make Steve Smith a more viable FFL starter this week? :hmm:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: sbr on December 02, 2012, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Kleves on December 02, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
Now, the real question is: does this make Steve Smith a more viable FFL starter this week? :hmm:

I follow Matthew Berry on Twitter; yesterday he sent out a tweet saying 'stop asking me about the fantasy impact of the suicide, I won't answer the question.'  He was then barraged with a stream of 'fuck you berry, it's your job answer the question!!'
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Ed Anger on December 02, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Fantasy Football is for homosexuals.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 02, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Fantasy Football is for homosexuals.


You've become such a neckbeard it's ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: merithyn on December 02, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 02:55:05 PM

You've become such a neckbeard it's ridiculous.

A what? :huh: :unsure:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: garbon on December 02, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 02, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Fantasy Football is for homosexuals.


You've become such a neckbeard it's ridiculous. 

He's so right though. Well, football fantasies.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: merithyn on December 02, 2012, 03:36:44 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 02, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 02, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Fantasy Football is for homosexuals.


You've become such a neckbeard it's ridiculous. 

He's so right though. Well, football fantasies.

:lol:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: merithyn on December 02, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 02:55:05 PM

You've become such a neckbeard it's ridiculous.

A what? :huh: :unsure:



Quote
neckbeard   
Talkative, self-important nerdy men (usually age 30 and up) who, through an inability to properly decode social cues, mistake others' strained tolerance of their blather for evidence of their own charm.

Stop being such a neckbeard.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: garbon on December 02, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Oh look, an urban dictionary cite!
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 08:53:39 PM
It knows its stuff, got a better source for that kind of information, Nancy?
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Razgovory on December 02, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
Sorry Alci, but Garb got you.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 09:29:58 PM
Ooookay?  Hold on while I go pull out a Webster's dictionary since it has to be in there to be real?   :huh:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: katmai on December 02, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
Forget it Alci, the Raz has spoken!

:lol:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
Forget it Alci, the Raz has spoken!

:lol:

Well I guess he would be an expert on the subject of this word.  You win, Raz.   :sleep:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 03, 2012, 10:29:27 PM
Ugh, anyone who left any Belcher paraphernalia there should hung up in the street by their ankles and flogged.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9Nw2qvCAAAOXKO.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Razgovory on December 03, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
Forget it Alci, the Raz has spoken!

:lol:

Well I guess he would be an expert on the subject of this word.  You win, Raz.   :sleep:

In the end, I always win.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2012, 10:41:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 03, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
Forget it Alci, the Raz has spoken!

:lol:
Well I guess he would be an expert on the subject of this word.  You win, Raz.   :sleep:
In the end, I always win.
I don't think that's really the case, but it's possible that you can come out feeling like a winner, even when you lost.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: garbon on December 03, 2012, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 02, 2012, 09:29:58 PM
Ooookay?  Hold on while I go pull out a Webster's dictionary since it has to be in there to be real?   :huh:

Actually, when explaining a slang term, it it totally permissible just answer the question in one's own words.  No need to head to a site where anyone can create a definition.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Alcibiades on December 03, 2012, 11:59:07 PM
I couldn't have worded it better myself, so it served it's purpose.  :mellow:
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Syt on December 04, 2012, 12:33:33 AM
Do I hear right that the rightwing nutjobs are now jumping on Bob Costas for his stance on gun control as professed during the game?
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: katmai on December 04, 2012, 12:35:07 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 04, 2012, 12:33:33 AM
Do I hear right that the rightwing nutjobs are now jumping on Bob Costas for his stance on gun control as professed during the game?

That is the news i'm hearing.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 04, 2012, 12:33:33 AM
Do I hear right that the rightwing nutjobs are now jumping on Bob Costas for his stance on gun control as professed during the game?

It wasn't the appropriate time or place for him to interject his political views.  He may have good taste in MLB teams but he's still a pompous, sanctimonious ass.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 04, 2012, 12:33:33 AM
Do I hear right that the rightwing nutjobs are now jumping on Bob Costas for his stance on gun control as professed during the game?

BOb was way out of line there.  The only way he could have been more controversial if it he had said something like 'If Belcher's mother had been able to get an abortion this never would have happened.'

The Supreme Court has spoken, gun control is never going to happen in this country.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: sbr on December 04, 2012, 01:01:18 AM
Everything he said was true.  That doesn't stop idiots from not liking it though.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Razgovory on December 04, 2012, 02:01:12 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 04, 2012, 12:33:33 AM
Do I hear right that the rightwing nutjobs are now jumping on Bob Costas for his stance on gun control as professed during the game?

It wasn't the appropriate time or place for him to interject his political views.  He may have good taste in MLB teams but he's still a pompous, sanctimonious ass.

But isn't that a plus in rightwing circles?
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: katmai on December 04, 2012, 02:08:43 AM
QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — Bob Costas' "Sunday Night Football" halftime commentary supporting gun control sparked a Fox News Channel debate Monday on whether NBC should fire him and a Twitter storm involving Ted Nugent, Rosie O'Donnell, Herman Cain and many more.

The NBC sportscaster, who frequently delivers commentary at halftime of the weekly NFL showcase, addressed the weekend's murder-suicide involving Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher.

Costas said that the shooting has invoked the "mindless sports cliche" that "something like this really puts it all in perspective."

"Please," he said. "Those who need tragedies to continually recalibrate their sense of proportion about sports would seem to have little hope of ever truly achieving perspective."

He then paraphrased and quoted extensively from a piece by Fox Sports columnist Jason Whitlock.

After praising the column, Costas said: "In the coming days, Jovan Belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. Who knows? But here, wrote Jason Whitlock, is what I believe. If Jovan Belcher didn't possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today."]/b]
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: dps on December 04, 2012, 02:56:38 AM
I disagree with Costas on gun control, and while he has every right to express his opinion on the matter, I don't think halftime was the right place.

I don't think he should be fired for it though (unless he was specifically told not to express his political opinion during the game, in which case that's between him and his bosses).

I do agree with him that it shouldn't take something like this for people to keep sports in perspective.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Neil on December 04, 2012, 08:38:07 AM
I can understand why this is controversial.  American society is based on hate and fear, and his remarks flew in the face of one of the cornerstones of the state of terror that most Americans live in.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
I didn't have a problem with what Costas said;  hell, that spot he has at halftime is precisely for his editorial exposition, e.g., Modell's death, Al Davis' death, etc.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
I didn't have a problem with what Costas said;

Shock, surprise, etc.

Quotehell, that spot he has at halftime is precisely for his editorial exposition, e.g., Modell's death, Al Davis' death, etc.

I question the need for that spot in the first place, with or without this week's rant.  Not that I think he should be fired.

He called in to Dan Patrick's show just a few minutes ago.  He seemingly backtracked & said he believed in the 2nd amendment and thought people had a right to have guns for self-defense (and thankfully he didn't mention hunting).  And he said he regretted the way he went about quoting Whitlock and that had he been able to contact him beforehand he would've qualified Whitlock's quote (not sure why he'd need permission to do that but whatever).  But then he went on to rant about how horrible & dangerous semi-auto firearms are and how nobody has any business possessing them.  Dan was kind of kissing his ass a little bit but did gently question whether Costas should have stated his opinion so strongly.

Btw I think Costas is taking a lot of the heat that should be leveled at Whitlock.  Whitlock said yesterday that the NRA is today's version of the KKK and apparently thinks that they are responsible for supplying inner cities with guns and drugs so that black people will keep killing each other.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Ed Anger on December 04, 2012, 10:06:31 AM
I guess he should have beaten her to death, then suicided by cop. Everything is better now.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Neil on December 04, 2012, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Btw I think Costas is taking a lot of the heat that should be leveled at Whitlock.  Whitlock said yesterday that the NRA is today's version of the KKK and apparently thinks that they are responsible for supplying inner cities with guns and drugs so that black people will keep killing each other.
Well, that's a little bit crazy.  Sure, the NRA has had a pernicious effect on the United States, but the group isn't built to keep the black man down.  The fact that inner cities are flooded with guns is a side effect of their platform, not the goal of it.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Btw I think Costas is taking a lot of the heat that should be leveled at Whitlock.  Whitlock said yesterday that the NRA is today's version of the KKK and apparently thinks that they are responsible for supplying inner cities with guns and drugs so that black people will keep killing each other.

Ah Whitlock.  He always writes crazy takes like that.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Kleves on December 04, 2012, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
Ah Whitlock.  He always writes crazy takes like that.
:yes: I don't really have a problem with Costas' statements, save that he seemed to quote Whitlock with approval.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
I didn't have a problem with what Costas said;

Shock, surprise, etc.

Well, it's his opinion, just like I don't have a problem with your right to bear fetuses to maintain a well-regulated militia.

Quotehell, that spot he has at halftime is precisely for his editorial exposition, e.g., Modell's death, Al Davis' death, etc.

QuoteWhitlock said yesterday that the NRA is today's version of the KKK

:lol:

Well, I'm sure their mailing lists have a substantial amount of overlap.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
Well, it's his opinion

So?  You only have problems with what people say when they say facts?
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:53:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
Well, it's his opinion

So?  You only have problems with what people say when they say facts?

:lol:  You obviously have problems with my opinion that it's his opinion.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: derspiess on December 04, 2012, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
Well, I'm sure their mailing lists have a substantial amount of overlap.

I bet you are.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:53:25 PM
:lol:  You obviously have problems with my opinion that it's his opinion.

I just think you are full of it.
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2012, 12:53:25 PM
:lol:  You obviously have problems with my opinion that it's his opinion.

I just think you are full of it.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnextlol.com%2Fimages%2F2160-thats-just-like-your-opinion-man.jpg&hash=5aa8ef9f3a21f8eb2db96f82d1b74095237c622e)
Title: Re: Another Murder-Suicide - NFL Player Theatrically Tops Himself
Post by: garbon on December 04, 2012, 01:15:19 PM
I think you are too. ^_^