In progress now:
Part 1: http://gizmodo.com/5959812/john-mcafee-wanted-for-murder
Part 2: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/threatlevel_1112_mcafee/
My thread on it was completely ignored...so yes! :)
Bizarre stuff.
Any theories on how it'll end or what's really going on?
Dead animal involved. Not newsworthy.
He's like a combination of Howard Hughes, Wesley Snipes and Phil Spector.
Quote from: Jacob on November 19, 2012, 07:58:02 PM
Bizarre stuff.
Any theories on how it'll end or what's really going on?
I've no idea. He certainly isn't looking good while blogging on the run. That said - I'd probably be concerned about turning myself over to the Belizean(?) authorities. :D
Quote from: garbon on November 19, 2012, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 19, 2012, 07:58:02 PM
Bizarre stuff.
Any theories on how it'll end or what's really going on?
I've no idea. He certainly isn't looking good while blogging on the run. That said - I'd probably be concerned about turning myself over to the Belizean(?) authorities. :D
I don't know much about their legal system or anything, but I think I'd be more comfortable turning myself in there than in most countries.
Of course, part of that is simply because they're an English-speaking country, so I could at least understand what was being said without an interpreter.
The rule of law is in operation IIRC, their highest court is the UK's privy council, the head of state being the Queen. It is a small country but it wouldn't be anything like being hauled before the authorities in a place like Guatemala.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 08:00:04 PM
Dead animal involved. Not newsworthy.
:D
And a meme is born. :)
Who would have thought that exiling yourself to a third world country so as to be free to stuff paranoia-inducing drugs up your ass would end so badly? :(
http://news.yahoo.com/guatemala-deport-software-pioneer-mcafee-u-official-190034431--finance.html
QuoteGuatemala said on Wednesday it would deport to the United States software pioneer John McAfee, a former Silicon Valley millionaire who is wanted for questioning in Belize over the murder of a fellow American.
McAfee has been held for a week by immigration officials in Guatemala, where he surfaced after evading officials in Belize for nearly a month. McAfee's lawyers managed to block an attempt to deport him back to Belize.
"Complying with migration law, Mr. John McAfee is to be deported to his country of origin," said Fernando Lucero, a spokesman for Guatemala's immigration office.
Guatemala has been holding McAfee, 67, since he was arrested last Wednesday for illegally entering the country with his 20-year-old Belizean girlfriend.
McAfee said he would be heading to Florida.
"I'll be leaving at 3:30 (p.m.) to Miami," he told Reuters by telephone, after which he left for the airport. "That was the only option I had. I can't take a flight that stops in any other country and there are only two flights going to America today."
Police in Belize want to question McAfee as a "person of interest" in the killing of American Gregory Faull, his neighbor on the Caribbean island of Ambergris Caye.
The two had quarreled at times, including over McAfee's unruly dogs. Authorities in Belize say he is not a prime suspect in the investigation.
The eccentric tech pioneer, who made his fortune from the anti-virus software bearing his name, has been chronicling life on the run in a blog, www.whoismcafee.com.
McAfee claims Belize authorities will kill him if he turns himself in for questioning. He has denied any role in Faull's killing and said he is being persecuted by Belize's ruling party for refusing to pay some $2 million in bribes.
Belize's prime minister has rejected the allegations, calling McAfee paranoid and "bonkers.
Belize police spokesman Raphael Martinez said Belize would still want to question McAfee if he reached the United States.
"He will be just under the good will of the United States of America. He is still is a person of interest, but a U.S. national has been killed and he has been somewhat implicated in that murder. People want him to answer some questions," he said.
"We have good relations with the United States of America and I am sure that we will get to the bottom of it."
Just keeps getting more convoluted.
Can the US send him back to Belize? If he committed a crime there, he should have to answer for it. It would be awkward to have to investigate a crime in Belize and try him in the US.
Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Can the US send him back to Belize? If he committed a crime there, he should have to answer for it. It would be awkward to have to investigate a crime in Belize and try him in the US.
It's called extradition.
I know what it is, but I don't know if the treaties are in place or if there are ways for his lawyers to block it. I mean Roman Polanski raped a gal but France has not seen fit to extradite his ass over here. I don't know if the man is guilty or not, but I think local authorities should be able to investigate and put him on trial if they believe they have cause.
Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2012, 05:33:58 PM
I know what it is, but I don't know if the treaties are in place or if there are ways for his lawyers to block it. I mean Roman Polanski raped a gal but France has not seen fit to extradite his ass over here. I don't know if the man is guilty or not, but I think local authorities should be able to investigate and put him on trial if they believe they have cause.
It's simple. Countries are reluctant to extradite if what the person was charged with isn't a crime in the country doing the extraditing.
Obviously, in France, raping an underage girl isn't much of a crime, and in the US, shooting someone who annoys you isn't much of a crime. :P
I was under the impression that some Euro countries have laws preventing their citizens from being extradited. I don't think the US has a law like that, though I'm not sure how it works when the police in a country just want to question a person. Like I said I don't know if he killed a guy, hell he might not even know if he did it during some kind drug induced psychotic episode, but I don't like the idea of hampering an investigation by fleeing the country. Since the victim was an American citizen, is possible that the US would do the investigating?
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 20, 2012, 06:58:48 AM
The rule of law is in operation IIRC, their highest court is the UK's privy council, the head of state being the Queen. It is a small country but it wouldn't be anything like being hauled before the authorities in a place like Guatemala.
Ironic in light of where he surfaced. Or possibly prophetic.
Also, his antivirus software really, really sucks.
Quote from: dps on December 12, 2012, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 20, 2012, 06:58:48 AM
The rule of law is in operation IIRC, their highest court is the UK's privy council, the head of state being the Queen. It is a small country but it wouldn't be anything like being hauled before the authorities in a place like Guatemala.
Ironic in light of where he surfaced. Or possibly prophetic.
Should have faced the music in Belize. Oh well. I think the PM of Belize is probably right in his assessment.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-returns-us-admits-playing-crazy-card/story?id=17956463#.UMnsHG882So
QuoteJohn McAfee's month-long international run from police through two Central American nations ended with a flight to Miami, where the businessman who says he abandoned his fortune admitted to playing the "crazy card."
As a gaggle of media waited near several exit doors at the airport Wednesday night, federal authorities whisked the founder of McAfee anti-virus software off the plane and into a van.
"They said, 'Mr. McAfee, please step forward,'" McAfee, 67, later told ABC News exclusively overnight at a Miami Beach hotel. "I was met by a dozen or maybe fewer officers. I said, 'Am I arrested?' They said, 'No, sir, I am here to help you.' That felt the best of all."
He eventually snuck out of the airport in a cab and headed to South Beach. After walking down famed Ocean Drive to the bewilderment of tourists and eating sushi, his first meal in three days, he sat down with ABC News and admitted to playing the "crazy card" and says he is broke.
"I have nothing now," McAfee said. He claims he left everything behind in Belize, including $20 million in investments and about 15 properties. "I've got a pair of clothes and shoes, my friend dropped off some cash."
Just hours earlier, the self-made millionaire was deported by Guatemalan police who forced him aboard his U.S.-bound flight away from the home and the two women he said he loves. After he arrived on South Beach, he said, a mysterious "Canadian friend" ordered another man he'd never met to drop off a wad of fresh $5 bills that McAfee later displayed to ABC News, pulling them from his coat pocket.
He says he left his fortune, including a beachfront compound, behind after his neighbor Greg Faull was found shot to death in Belize on Nov. 10.
Belize officials said he isn't a suspect, but when they asked to question him, McAfee disguised himself and ran.
After three weeks ducking authorities in Belize, by hiding in attics, in the jungle and in dingy hotels, he turned up in Guatemala Dec. 3.
Barely a day later he was detained for entering the country illegally. As Guatemala officials grappled with how to handle his request for asylum and the Belize government's demand for his deportation, McAfee fell ill. The mysterious illness, described by his attorney alternately as a heart ailment or a nervous breakdown, led to a scene with reporters chasing his ambulance down the narrow streets of Guatemala City and right into the emergency room, where McAfee appeared unresponsive.
He now says it was all a ruse: "It was a deception but who did it hurt? I look pretty healthy, don't I?"
He says he faked the illness in order to buy some time for a judge to hear his case and stay his deportation to Belize, a government he believes wants him dead. When asked whether he believes Belize officials where inept, he didn't mince words.
"I was on the run with a 20-year-old girl for three and a half weeks inside their borders and everyone was looking for me, and they did not catch me," he said. "I escaped, was captured and they tried to send me back. Now I'm sitting in Miami. There had to be some ineptness."
The man who many believe only wants attention answered critics who called his month-long odyssey and blog posts a publicity stunt by simply saying, "What's a better story, millionaire mad man on the run. You [the media] saved my ass. Because you paid attention to the story. As long as you are reporting, it is hard to whack somebody that the world is watching."
He denies any involvement in his neighbor's death but adds that he is not particularly concerned about clearing his name. He is focused on getting his 20-year-old and 17-year-old girlfriends out of Belize and says he has no idea what he'll do next, where he'll live or how he'll support himself.
Yeah sure, you played crazy. :D