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Title: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on November 02, 2012, 07:07:24 PM
I'm still resisting the urge.

Anyone here already got it? Impressions?

I bet Viking is in the middle of 2018-19 season already.  :P

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on November 02, 2012, 07:13:04 PM
Bought it, started out unemployed and got first job with second division Portuguese Club, just in first season pre-season training and trying to find gems to sign :)
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2012, 07:33:15 PM
Haven't got it yet. I might actually skip this one, the improvements are for the most part polish in areas that I Don't think are lacking in 12. Also my graphics cards are sufficiently crappy that the improvements in the 3d engine won't benefit me much.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on November 02, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
I'm leaning toward waiting until its $7 on a Steam sale on some such.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: PDH on November 03, 2012, 07:53:22 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 02, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
I'm leaning toward waiting until its $7 on a Steam sale on some such.

Me too.  Or until I get the shakes.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on November 03, 2012, 06:05:54 PM
I normally skip a year. I bought FM12 so I think I'll wait...unless I'll find it cheap enough early next year.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
I might get it during the steam winter sale. The mode where you don't have to do all the bullshit appeals to me.

ANDY CARROL WILL BE A STARTER.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on November 03, 2012, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
I might get it during the steam winter sale. The mode where you don't have to do all the bullshit appeals to me.

ANDY CARROL WILL BE A STARTER.

Play him as Target man with rigid instructions with wingers with good crossing skills who cross from the line aiming for the head. Play him with a poacher with good positioning, off the ball composure and finishing to pick up Andy's leavings.

If you are really motivated you might want to retrain him as a right winger, set him as inside forward and target man, then have (in the best liverpool tradition a good norwegian left back like Riise or Bjørnebye) who the goalkeeper distributes to and is instructed to cross from deep to head. The move from goalkeeper to left back to right winger (carroll) who heads it into the box was the basis of the Norwegian national team for most of the 90s. It's a good way to ignore the midfield and is especially useful if the oppo midfield is composed of skilled and short players.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 06:26:17 PM
That sounds like work.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:31:28 PM
I can't imagine Ed playing football manager game.  :lol:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:31:28 PM
I can't imagine Ed playing football manager game.  :lol:

I'll play Liverpool!

Day 1: Carroll becomes whiny. Gerrard steals your hubcaps
Day 2:  Suarez dives. Repeatedly.
Day 3: Manchester United crush your nuts.
Day 4: create player: the Limper
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:46:55 PM
 :lol:

You can rename players too. I can see Otto Skorzeny waiting to be subbed in in the 75' minute.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:46:55 PM
:lol:

You can rename players too. I can see Otto Skorzeny waiting to be subbed in in the 75' minute.

I'm thinking confederates.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:50:58 PM
Braxton Bragg saves a penalty !  :)
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:50:58 PM
Braxton Bragg saves a penalty !  :)

Bedford Forrest red carded for racism!
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on December 25, 2012, 06:58:52 PM
This FM Classic mode is super fast and really easy to start. I love it.  :)
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on December 25, 2012, 07:05:40 PM
I'm yet to try Classic, but I might soon as England haven't lost a national game since august 2012 in my latest game, which is in 2018 by now. It's more unbelievable than the time Belgium won the WC in FM12.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on December 25, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
So what does classic do? Is it like non 3-D?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on December 26, 2012, 07:54:30 AM
It's SI's attempt to rake in the DLC money.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Syt on January 05, 2013, 04:23:46 AM
I have a $5 coupon from Amazon.com that I got for buying LEGO Lord of the Rings at 75% off, meaning I could buy this for $15 (or €11.50).

Worth it?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Tamas on January 05, 2013, 04:58:44 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 05, 2013, 04:23:46 AM
I have a $5 coupon from Amazon.com that I got for buying LEGO Lord of the Rings at 75% off, meaning I could buy this for $15 (or €11.50).

Worth it?

I have been addicted to it during the holidays.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on February 21, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
Just found a fantastic "cheat". I'm still in FM2012, so I'm not sure, but this should work in FM2013 as well.

Basically the "cheat" is to add a quality league which is not active to the game. When that league starts up the engine adds "real" players randomly generated to compensate for the lack of players. Aggressively scout the first teams of all the teams in the league. Alot of the randomly generated players will be of very high quality. If you started up the spanish league from total dormancy the engine will add players of league quality to all the teams, this includes Real Madrid and Barca and these players will be of real and barca quality. The same applies for Man U, AC Milan, Bayern, Ajax and OL. The league will often contain serious quality players in the lesser teams as well. These players are automatically generated and have 0 games played historically. This means they often have contracts with low automatic release clauses and even if they don't have release clauses you can get the players with 0 games pretty damn cheaply, by cheap I mean top league top quality first team players or €3M Euro.

This is not LLM, but damn... I bought up a full new first 11 for €50M ready to challenge ManU for the title as Fulham. 
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 16, 2013, 05:49:14 PM
cough.

Anyone still playing? I finished 20 seasons as Napoli in FM12, so I finally started FM13 and am playing Liverpool.

Not sure if I made a mistake, but I am playing Classic Mode. Thought I could dispense without the micromanaging, but find this might be a bit too simple. Also hate the tactics screen, pain in the sometimes to show the stats I want to see. I'm glad I don't have to do pre and post game interviews, but miss the team talks. Surprised to see you can't set team shouts before the game starts.

Also noticed I don't have to select my Euro squad. Everyone seems eligible. Seems odd.

Playing as Liverpool, I have a transfer budget of $0. That kinda sucks. I guess it's to compensate for having Couthinho and Sturridge already. Not sure.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 01:48:15 AM
I just took out my older game, finished 2nd in my second League 1 season with Plymouth (I wanted to start with a League 2 side which had a chance at promotion), has two Championship games under my belt and it is: promising.

For a lot of my previous FM games, I went with snatching up experienced 30-somethings for free. Now I have been using young talents as much as possible, with the 30-somethings being the backups (as it is hard to keep talented youngsters on the bench ad infinitum). It works quite well, except that since I am playing 4-1-3-1-1, I need well-rounded strikers as target men, so I play 30-somethings there.

Very addictive game.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 20, 2013, 06:32:28 PM
Got fired in November of my first season as Liverpool. Restarted, this time with the "full" version. Find it a bit too micro, but the "classic" version a bit too sparse. Anyways, Liverpool again. Let's see how far I'll make it this time.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on July 09, 2013, 02:32:11 AM
I finally started a game, full version, with, as usual, Juventus FC.

I'm aggressively scouting all the players in the 16-19 age range, and found a lot of them either 4,5 or 5 stars, but *every single one* seems to have either completely absurd release clauses, or the team wants 20 times his value for selling him. I mean, some players are valued around € 300K-450K, but the team wants 12-20M euros to complete the transfer?!

The first transfer window ended without a single transfer to my team  <_<

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on July 12, 2013, 04:19:10 AM
FM13 for €8.74 on Steam Summer Sale, for those who haven't updated yet. :P
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on July 12, 2013, 07:37:01 AM
Quote from: Liep on July 12, 2013, 04:19:10 AM
FM13 for €8.74 on Steam Summer Sale, for those who haven't updated yet. :P
<_<  :P

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on July 16, 2013, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Liep on July 12, 2013, 04:19:10 AM
FM13 for €8.74 on Steam Summer Sale, for those who haven't updated yet. :P

I finally folded and bought it... seriously, when FM costs less than a beer... WTF?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: crazy canuck on July 16, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Does it have the Vancouver Whitecaps?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Does it have the Vancouver Whitecaps?

:yes:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: crazy canuck on July 16, 2013, 09:32:02 PM
I have pulled the trigger  :)
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on July 18, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2013, 09:32:02 PM
I have pulled the trigger  :)

Good for you.

Managing MLS though is not easy. I tried a season as Toronto FC and the major league rules are a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on July 24, 2013, 07:54:09 PM
Just started a new game. Began as unemployed and after a CdM like blanketing of applications, received offers from like 4 clubs.

The best offer ended up taking over Coventry in English League One.
As they had just been relegated the previous year high expectations from the Board and fans mean didn't have much in way of Honeymoon period.

The squad was decent enough, picked up some youngsters on Loan to strength the squad including a promising Strikers from Fulham and Derby.
Decided to try out tactics based on Brendan Rodgers approach and Swansea and Liverpool.

After a rough first 1/3 of season where we went like 6-4-5 the lads finally got a hang of the new system and for middle part of season we went on a 11-2-2 tear including seven game win streak and yours truly taking Manager of Month honors, and the team in automatic promotion in standing.

All good things must come to end and  so did our good fortune as Injuries wrecked havoc with momentum and we tumbled down the standings to point that by end of regular season we settled for 6th place and the final playoff spot for the coveted 3rd promotion spot.

In first half leg of playoff we ended up losing 1-2 at home and our prospects were looking very bleak.
The second leg we went down 0-1 on road only to storm back with 2 goals in span of 5 mins that left us deadlocked at 3-3 and end of regular time.
In the extra 30mins we scored twice to advance the the promotion game held at Wembley stadium.

The match at Wembley was tight affair with both sides scoring one apiece in regular time and for second straight game extra time would hope to decide the outcome before any dreaded heading to PK's

The team again came through with a goal in 104th min and just like that Coventry was back in Championship, meaning I was already pretty popular with the fans and the Board.

My striker on loan from Derby ended up leading the league in Goals with 29, and one of my Centerbacks lead the league in rating.

The only bad news was the Chairman had taken out loans totaling around 15million so the purse strings for the upcoming first season back in Championship were going to be tight, so went on spree picking up 7-8 youngsters released from the EPL teams and was scouting like mad hoping to replicate my success in getting some quality folks on loan, only to have all my plans go up in smoke when news broke of a right Dutchman looking to buy the club!

After the month of June being in turmoil and an embargo on bringing anymore players while the takeover was hammered out, get the great news of instead of having only and excess $100k in payroll and transfer budget of $60k with the new Dutch Tycoon I now had $500k in payroll and $17million in transfer funds to attract players!

So now odds makers have us as favorites to gain promotion to EPL and Chairman expecting big things, nope no pressure at all!
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: crazy canuck on August 05, 2013, 10:58:08 AM
After that AAR I am looking forward to trying this out when I get some time
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Alcibiades on August 05, 2013, 08:36:13 PM
I really want to try this but I don't I understand club soccer well enough.  I played a version of this a few years ago and I just didn't really understand what to do to be effective, as in what was working and what didn't really do anything.

Any good guides you guys would recommend?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on August 06, 2013, 05:41:44 PM
This is a pretty basic guide to everything about FM 13. It doesn't really go into detail though. The SI forums also have a lot of helpful threads in them.

http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/
http://community.sigames.com/index.php

What part of the game is the most problematic for you?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on August 06, 2013, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2013, 10:58:08 AM
After that AAR I am looking forward to trying this out when I get some time

Thanks,

After a tough season (ended up mid table about where media predicted, though made a good run in the FA cup ) where finding out how much of the team needed to be upgraded, now in second season in Championship and started season off going 4-6-0 before rash of injuries brought us back down and currently gone 3-1-3 and in 5th place so sitting well for playoff spot and only 2 pts from automatic promotion to the EPL.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: crazy canuck on September 18, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 06, 2013, 05:41:44 PM
This is a pretty basic guide to everything about FM 13. It doesn't really go into detail though. The SI forums also have a lot of helpful threads in them.

http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/
http://community.sigames.com/index.php

What part of the game is the most problematic for you?

I started a game and quickly felt overwhelmed with all the options and choices.  I think I will be spending some time going through those links.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2013, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 18, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 06, 2013, 05:41:44 PM
This is a pretty basic guide to everything about FM 13. It doesn't really go into detail though. The SI forums also have a lot of helpful threads in them.

http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/
http://community.sigames.com/index.php

What part of the game is the most problematic for you?


I started a game and quickly felt overwhelmed with all the options and choices.  I think I will be spending some time going through those links.
Hey! That's how I feel when I boot up a Paradox game.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on September 19, 2013, 07:00:59 AM
Its actually easier than a paradox game, because you can play FM without knowing too much about how to play it and then slowly learn the nuances of it.

FM13 also introdcued a classic style or something which made it a lot simpler.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on October 18, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
I just bought FM2014 and playing the Beta already :blush:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on October 18, 2013, 03:05:24 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 18, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
I just bought FM2014 and playing the Beta already :blush:

Anything worth commenting on?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on October 18, 2013, 03:09:29 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 18, 2013, 03:05:24 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 18, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
I just bought FM2014 and playing the Beta already :blush:

Anything worth commenting on?

Just started on it, kinda interesting that you now have to interview for jobs similar to the backroom talks or news conferences. :lol:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on October 19, 2013, 09:36:12 PM
That sounds kinda boring. I find most of the FM stuff that has "dialogue" is pretty lame. Like the
"I want you to take young defender under your wing."
Pro: "Ok boss.:
Me: "Lets call young rookie in."
Rookie comes in.
Me: [calm]. We think you can learn from Pro Guy.
Rookie: "OK. Sounds good. Anything else?"
Me: No.
Rookie: "ok I'll be off then.:


Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on December 22, 2013, 11:02:36 AM
Bought it with 25% from the Christmas sale, but no FM14, I don't think it's impressive that my lower league team from a small Danish town has a squad consisting mostly of Danes. :huh:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on December 27, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
I'm really sucking at this. [fm13]

Liverpool. Fourth season in. It seems no matter my formation, my tactics, etc I always end up taking about 25 shots on net, maybe 3-4 hit the target. Suarez can't hit the net for the life of him. Plus I have Gabbiadini from Atalanta who's a young up and comer, I have Sturridge, Couthnhio, Borini. Schurle. None of them seem to know where the net is. Of course the other team gets one counter attacking opportunity and score. :mad:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: FunkMonk on December 27, 2013, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: Josephus on December 27, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
I'm really sucking at this. [fm13]

Liverpool. Fourth season in. It seems no matter my formation, my tactics, etc I always end up taking about 25 shots on net, maybe 3-4 hit the target. Suarez can't hit the net for the life of him. Plus I have Gabbiadini from Atalanta who's a young up and comer, I have Sturridge, Couthnhio, Borini. Schurle. None of them seem to know where the net is. Of course the other team gets one counter attacking opportunity and score. :mad:

FM in a nutshell  :D
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on December 31, 2013, 07:09:04 AM
One of my pet peeves with FM is the standard news stories. If you tackle an attacker from behind and you're the last defender, then it's not a controversial red card.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 05, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
So, FM 14

Is there no team talks and opposition instructions, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on May 05, 2014, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: Josephus on May 05, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
So, FM 14

Is there no team talks and opposition instructions, or am I missing something?

Are you playing classic mode? Cause I see them in my game.


Speaking of FM 14, started new game after having to reformat HD,  started Unemployed and after being hired by C.F. União in Portuguese 2nd divison and led them to promotion  in our first season, setting record for most pts.


The downside is club is cash strapped and will probably have half squad turnover before we start next season so will be challenge to stay up.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 05, 2014, 09:49:39 PM
hmmm.

Yes, Classic mode.

I don't get to deliver team talks. Go from starting squads directly into the game. Don't get a chance to do oppositon instructions. Strange.

edit:

Damn...I thought classic mode was the "full" game.  :lol:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josquius on May 06, 2014, 01:31:43 AM
Fm14 seems a bit borked. A lot of little niggles, like missing club histories. England qualified for the World Cup and a message popped up saying it was the first time it ever happened. I got to the 5th round of the fa cup and get a sell out crowd as it's the first time my team has ever got that far (we've won the cup before...)
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: katmai on May 06, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Sounds like you have something missing or being used in your game there tyr.
And Josephus stop acting like josi.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 06, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
So I've played six games under classic mode.

Debating whether to start a new "full featured" game now.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on May 15, 2014, 11:59:09 AM
Ok, I'm hands and feet into the 14 version, as usual. i think I devoted more life hours to FM in its every incarnation than to every other game franchise, by far.

How do I tell one of my defenders to man mark an opponent?

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on May 15, 2014, 01:32:25 PM
Individual instructions in tactics.

I've mostly played lower leagues, so setting man-marking is just asking for trouble. My Preston team is pushing for play-offs in the Championship now, though. Rejects and offcasts all around, and a 'keeper with 18 in eccentricity.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on May 15, 2014, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 15, 2014, 01:32:25 PM
Individual instructions in tactics.
I suppose it is there, but con't find it. Will be looking more carefully this evening.

Quote
a 'keeper with 18 in eccentricity.
It screams trouble and heart-attack-inducing matches  :D

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josquius on May 17, 2014, 08:57:38 AM
I'm bemused how corners always seem to involve my defender attacking the near post and scoring with a foot shot. With default tactics that is.

But meh. I dropped the game, have it back to the person I borrowed it from. The no history bug fucked it too much
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 20, 2014, 02:50:46 PM
No history bug?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on May 20, 2014, 02:56:01 PM
No history or false history for clubs. It would make news posts quite weird when, fx, it said that Liverpool hadn't won the league title for over 20 years.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 20, 2014, 07:03:50 PM
Really? That for before the game starts (ie real history) or as the game progresses. The latter would bother me more.

Not that it matters.

Two weeks to the day after starting my first game with FM 14 i got fired (midway through first season as napoli).

I'm going to try MLS again. havent' done an MLS season since FM10 or so. It's tough with its oddball rules. But I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on May 31, 2014, 09:06:41 AM
Bah. Wasted a couple weeks playing MLS. it's too broken and rules suck.

Was playing Toronto. In July I extended a couple players' contracts. mistake. That put me over salary cap. To continue I had to re-register the squad but because salary cap was over, and contracts were guaranteed now, the game wouldn't let me proceed. Stupid. The game is normally good about telling you can't do something. But there's nothing  I could do. Ending Cesar's loan for instance didn't change the salary cap. No game save from before I extened contracts. Game over.  :(
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on June 03, 2014, 01:25:56 PM
FM14 is on "summer samba sale" on Steam. It's just € 12.50.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on June 06, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Is there a way to call a player back from a loan, during the season?

The interface gives tons of info, but sometimes it hides relevant commands.

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on June 06, 2014, 05:48:33 PM
Yes...but you have to set that out as a condition when you loan him out.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on June 07, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
I cannot remember, in twenty years of honoured service on my computers, that a version of CM/FM crashed during play. It just happened to me  :huh:

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on June 07, 2014, 05:04:34 PM
I've had it happen a handful of times, which is why I suffer the autosave.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on June 07, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
It's been more frequent with 12, 13 and 14.

I have a feeling it's mostly hardware related.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on June 07, 2014, 09:58:35 PM
Never crashed in game, but with 13 on my PC (I'm not on Mac) it used to crash all the time upon exit.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on July 09, 2014, 12:52:03 PM
GODDAMNIT!!!!

MLS league is broken.

Last month in my second season. A player returns from loan.Game won't let me proceed unless I register him. But it's after the final registration deadline. So game won't let me register or change my roster. But game won't let me proceed.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME REGISTRATION FUCKED ME

Don't play MLS League.

Fuck.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: PDH on July 10, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
So I bought this during the WC sale.  I expect to start a game soon as Schalke (aka the Fighting Former Nazis/Gazprom Toadies) and revel in high-end mediocrity.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on July 18, 2014, 05:58:24 AM
Scary thing is  I do number 4

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-signs-youre-addicted-football-3877723
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Warspite on July 18, 2014, 06:26:34 AM
Oh Jesus Christ I've done No 4 as well.  :lol:

:D

:)

:blush:

:Embarrass:

I have a problem. :weep:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on July 18, 2014, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: Josephus on July 18, 2014, 05:58:24 AM
Scary thing is  I do number 4

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-signs-youre-addicted-football-3877723
Sometimes I do it, too

Oh, and in related news, Paul Pogba's FM Chelsea team signed himself  :lol:

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Alcibiades on July 21, 2014, 12:33:16 AM
What's some good clubs i can start out with and have some fun?

Giving this another whirl, playing MLS as the Seattle Sounders.....  doing really well and in 1st place but if it's going to be broken I may as well not continue :p



So which clubs would be good for me to get my feet wet in?  I enjoy really attack heavy...football.  (Been fun with Dempsy and Martin on the Sounders pounding away goals, 1st place through 25 games, 55 goals  :bowler:)

But I don't really know what I'm doing with large sections of the game, such as scouting and youth/under23s/reserve teams or what ever.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on July 21, 2014, 03:21:37 AM
The issue with starting with a huge club is getting the sack when you end up in 4th place.  :ph34r:
Maybe you could try and see if you can do better than Moyes did at Man Utd? Good setup, but demanding of instant success.
I mostly tinker around the lower leagues.

The reserves/U-21s/23s or whatever are good for getting youngsters match fit and playing regularly, but I normally just leave it to a designated coach with decent "working with youngsters" and tactical abilities. Scouting is just going on and on, no matter what. Some scouts are completely useless and will recommend players that are way beyond what you can afford or are rubbish.

Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Alcibiades on July 21, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Isn't Man U a pretty big club though?  Wouldn't mind starting with something maybe a little smaller, probably.


On a side note, I just sold one of my players to another club for 5.5m..... in MLS...but I don't think I saw any money out of that?  Even my transfer budget only went up by 300k.    I'm allowed to only have 7 international players ( he was cuban) and it still says I have 7 on my roster.  Kind of annoying.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on July 21, 2014, 05:08:52 PM
The transfer rules in the MSL are so difficult to understand, I resigned after two weeks after being hired by one of the clubs there.

If you want something a little less demanding than Man Utd, you could try a 2. Bundesliga or English Championship club. Your main issue there will be a lack of money and the rather premature implementation of UEFA's so-called Financial Fair Play rules.

Some clubs are easier than others. Nottingham Forest, Leicester City, Wigan Athletic or Queens Park Rangers in the English Championship have decent squads and money to burn.

FC Copenhagen in the Danish league should pretty much be a shoo-in for a league win. Same with Rosenborg in Norway.

I like the challenge of lower-league clubs where you basically have to sell the best players every year to stay afloat and then sometimes have a bit of luck with the draw and rub of the green in matches and get to a cup quarter-final.
I've been playing as Preston North End now for a few seasons, and just lost out on Premiership promotion after a horrifying run which saw us winning 1 in the last 13. From 2nd place to 8th.
The 3-9 defeat at home to Middlesbrough may be my worst ever loss in FM.

Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Alcibiades on July 21, 2014, 05:39:50 PM
I've heard Arsenal or Newcastle might be good for a beginner such as myself, what do you think?

(Keep in mind I know absolutely nothing about soccer over the pond besides....Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man U, etc.)
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on July 21, 2014, 06:05:22 PM
Arsenal might want some success, but have a good squad. Remember not to set your past experience to automatic or anything below Professional.

Newcastle are somewhere between relegation candidate and top six.

You'd probably walk the German Bundesliga with Bayern München, though.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Pedrito on July 22, 2014, 04:21:37 AM
If you want to give a spin to Serie A, there's Napoli that has a good roster, rather high expectations (battle for the 1st, IIRC) and can be pretty fun.

Other Serie A teams are unbalanced, either having a good attack line but scrappy defense (Fiorentina, Milan), or vice versa.

AS Roma could be a good side to train, but being I a Juventus fan, Roma is a big no-no for us  :P

Take on Juventus to win pretty easily in Italy but struggle in Europe.

L.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on July 22, 2014, 04:29:18 AM
I'd suggest Sunderland. They have a huge stadium and low expectations. Since you are in the PL you can buy virtually any player you want that isn't already in a top tier country, scout east europe, second tier west europe countries, africa and south america for talent. That an keep an eye out for expiring contracts among 30+ players in the PL. It's probably the team out there with a top tier infrastructure with the lowest expectations.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on July 22, 2014, 05:17:33 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on July 22, 2014, 04:21:37 AM

Other Serie A teams are unbalanced, either having a good attack line but scrappy defense (Fiorentina, Milan), or vice versa.


PS. Scrappy defence in football means battling/fighting.  :hug:

Anyone ever tried playing a Russian club? Some of them have huge stacks of cash. Outside of Norway, France, England, Italy, Germany and Spain, the only two clubs I've tried my hands at are Hearts in Scotland (failure) and Young Boys (less failure, but prügelknabe in the CL) in Switzerland. Oh, and that attempt at MSL with Houston.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on July 22, 2014, 05:26:43 AM
I tried The People's Team, Spartak Moscow, for one season, I didn't fare better than Michael Laudrup and got fired midway for not delivering. :blush:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on July 22, 2014, 05:29:12 AM
I feel like trying Shakhtar Donetsk for some reason. :ph34r:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Warspite on July 22, 2014, 05:52:24 AM
Quote from: Liep on July 22, 2014, 05:29:12 AM
I feel like trying Shakhtar Donetsk for some reason. :ph34r:

Will there be an option to choose which league it competes in?  :ph34r:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on July 22, 2014, 06:10:09 AM
MLS is tough to play and has a few buggy issues (see my rant above). That said, when you sell a player a good chunk of the cash goes into the League. The rest is divided between your owners and what they call allocation. Even in the "real" leagues though, selling a player for $10m doesn't always translate into a $10m addition to your purchasing power.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Norgy on July 22, 2014, 06:17:25 AM
Quote from: Liep on July 22, 2014, 05:29:12 AM
I feel like trying Shakhtar Donetsk for some reason. :ph34r:

Famous last words.

Beware of away day travel.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on July 26, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
Dammit! My scumbag National team goalkeeper decided he didn't like playing for my club just before the registration for the CL. Fair enough, it would have been better had he done it more than one week. Now I only have one goalkeeper and I can't proceed from the registration page since the registration requires at least 2 goalkeepers.

The game just died. ffs. I was on my way to becoming a club legend.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on July 28, 2014, 06:06:48 AM
Registration bugs are annoying.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Warspite on July 28, 2014, 07:47:31 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 26, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
Dammit! My scumbag National team goalkeeper decided he didn't like playing for my club just before the registration for the CL. Fair enough, it would have been better had he done it more than one week. Now I only have one goalkeeper and I can't proceed from the registration page since the registration requires at least 2 goalkeepers.

The game just died. ffs. I was on my way to becoming a club legend.

Did you not have any U21 keepers to promote from your squad as an emergency measure? Failing that, could you not fire an FM savegame editor to turn one of your players into a GK?
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Viking on July 31, 2014, 01:04:05 AM
Quote from: Warspite on July 28, 2014, 07:47:31 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 26, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
Dammit! My scumbag National team goalkeeper decided he didn't like playing for my club just before the registration for the CL. Fair enough, it would have been better had he done it more than one week. Now I only have one goalkeeper and I can't proceed from the registration page since the registration requires at least 2 goalkeepers.

The game just died. ffs. I was on my way to becoming a club legend.

Did you not have any U21 keepers to promote from your squad as an emergency measure? Failing that, could you not fire an FM savegame editor to turn one of your players into a GK?

Well my 1/2 to 3/2 potential youngsters just get cut in a short period my 3 star potential youngster demanded he get sold, my 4.5 potential star youngster got sold to Olympic Lyon for 5 million euro and my 3.5 ability star player was left alone at the club. At this point he demanded he leave, the 4.5 potential star youngster's loan to me ended (hewas loanes as part of the sale deal). I found a 3 ability star player to fill in as first choice, but I hadn't been able to replace the other three. Basically I lost 3 players in a short time, had only managed to replace 1. I had to go back 3 months to a previous save and load up again, offered the 3.5 star player a lucrative new contract and issues avoided. I hired the 3 star player anyways, since I got him on a free transfer.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on September 13, 2014, 09:14:07 AM
Rule #101. Your top scorer will inevitably get a nasty injury part way through the season that keeps him out for 5-8 weeks.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Liep on September 13, 2014, 09:18:50 AM
That's funny, American FM's rule #101 is: Your top runner will inevitably hit a family member and receive a ban that keeps him out for 5-8 weeks.
Title: Re: FM 13
Post by: Josephus on September 13, 2014, 04:22:34 PM
And, of course, Rule #201.

Minutes after your third substitution, one of your players will have to go out injured.