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Title: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: citizen k on October 22, 2012, 10:41:54 PM

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Official Ballot
Spokane County, Washington
November 6, 2012 General Election



Federal - Partisan Office

President/Vice President of the United States
Vote For One

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
Democratic Party Nominees

Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan
Republican Party Nominees

Gary Johnson/James P. Gray
Libertarian Party Nominees

Virgil Goode/James N. Clymer
Constitution Party Nominees

Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala
Green Party Nominees

Peta Lindsay/Yari Osorio
Socialism & Liberation party
Nominees

James Harris/Alyson Kennedy
Socialist Worker's Party Nominees

Ross C. (Rocky) Anderson/
Luis J. Rodriguez
Justice Party Nominees


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Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
Damn you guys have very liberal electoral laws.  Only the Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Greens ever get on the ballot in Texas.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 22, 2012, 11:22:44 PM
PETA is running for President? That makes a dilemma for CDM.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: citizen k on October 22, 2012, 11:22:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
Damn you guys have very liberal electoral laws.  Only the Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Greens ever get on the ballot in Texas.

Who votes for the Greens outside of the Austin area?
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 23, 2012, 01:09:59 AM
QuoteSocialism & Liberation party

:wub:
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 23, 2012, 03:43:11 AM
Oxymoron Party.   :lol:


This Virgil Goode/Jim Clymer thing is listed as Independent American Party on mine. Must be my state's affiliate. But I'm pretty sure Nevada IAP and the Constitution Party are very different in ideology. Weird.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: FunkMonk on October 23, 2012, 04:08:38 AM
I'm gonna need a list of differences between the Socialism and Liberation Party and the Socialist Workers Party before I can decide on this one. :hmm:
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 23, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 22, 2012, 11:22:52 PM
Who votes for the Greens outside of the Austin area?

Plenty of weirdos in Dallas and Houston as well.  But it doesn't matter.  The point is they jump through all the vast hoops the Democrats and Republicans have set up to keep third parties off the ballot.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Maximus on October 23, 2012, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
Damn you guys have very liberal electoral laws.  Only the Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Greens ever get on the ballot in Texas.
Yea these are the only ones on the ballot here too. Guess that's why we live in "safe" states, huh?
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 23, 2012, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 23, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
The point is they jump through all the vast hoops the Democrats and Republicans have set up to keep third parties off the ballot.

Yet still manage to get around 1% of the vote or less generally. For the parties that can't even manage that, it's a greater disservice to make voters scroll past their names than to keep them off the ballot.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 23, 2012, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 23, 2012, 04:08:38 AM
I'm gonna need a list of differences between the Socialism and Liberation Party and the Socialist Workers Party before I can decide on this one. :hmm:

That's the trouble with the socialists...can't unite.

I remember in Toronto in the 90s (and possibly today) the ballot had, in addition to the main parties:

A Trotskyist Party
A Marxist/Leninist Party
A Socialist Worker's Party
and, of course, A Communist Party.

Felt sorry for the Maoists who didn't have their own party.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 23, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 23, 2012, 10:39:00 AM
I remember in Toronto in the 90s (and possibly today) the ballot had, in addition to the main parties:

A Trotskyist Party
A Marxist/Leninist Party
A Socialist Worker's Party
and, of course, A Communist Party.

As a Maoist, I didn't know who to vote for. :huh:

Castro, of course.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: derspiess on October 23, 2012, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
Damn you guys have very liberal electoral laws.  Only the Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Greens ever get on the ballot in Texas.

I think Ohio's had the exact same candidates as Seedy's ballot.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 23, 2012, 12:47:47 PM
I miss the days when there was a national socialist and a falangist on the ballot.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 23, 2012, 12:53:24 PM
Got my first voter suppression phone call yesterday;  lady wanted to inform me that the ballot for one of the local dog-catcher offices was printed incorrectly by the State of Maryland with an independent candidate's name (who's been running local commercials), told me to write in the name for the "correct" candidate instead.   :lol:
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 23, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
I assume you verbally abused her.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 23, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 23, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
I assume you verbally abused her.

I told her I was writing myself in, and there was nothing she could do to stop me now.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Zanza on October 23, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
Our presidential ballot this year was a bit boring:

Joachim Gauck
Conservatives, Social Democrats, Liberals, Greens

Beate Klarsfeld
Commies

Olaf Rose
Nazis

The first guy got 80% of the vote, with another 8.5% abstentions.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 23, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Olaf gets my vote.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 23, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Well the President of Germany is an office with crazy amounts of power, I can see why the major parties are fighting tooth and nail for it.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: FunkMonk on October 23, 2012, 02:27:00 PM
 
:D
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 23, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
I only got the Spanish version of my sample ballot btw. It's ok, I can read it. But heh.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 24, 2012, 09:30:48 AM
What do you get sample ballots for?
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 24, 2012, 09:30:48 AM
What do you get sample ballots for?

Because there are dozens and dozens of votes on any one ballot and it is nice to have so you can read up on the issues you are going to be voting for.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: garbon on October 24, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
I just looked at my sample ballot and there is a party called Conservative and a party called Working Families. For each, their candidates are nearly identical to Republican and Democrat respectively. What a waste of space.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: citizen k on October 24, 2012, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 24, 2012, 09:30:48 AM
What do you get sample ballots for?

Because there are dozens and dozens of votes on any one ballot and it is nice to have so you can read up on the issues you are going to be voting for.

That's one of the advantages of mail-in ballots. In Washington, we do all elections by mail.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: citizen k on October 24, 2012, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 24, 2012, 09:30:48 AM
What do you get sample ballots for?

Because there are dozens and dozens of votes on any one ballot and it is nice to have so you can read up on the issues you are going to be voting for.

That's one of the advantages of mail-in ballots. In Washington, we do all elections by mail.


The negative - propping up a terrible org like post office.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
The negative - propping up a terrible org like post office.

What is wrong with the post office?
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 24, 2012, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
The negative - propping up a terrible org like post office.

What is wrong with the post office?

They lost his 12 CDs for a penny order.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
The negative - propping up a terrible org like post office.

What is wrong with the post office?

Horribly inefficient and rude staff. If they were a private business they'd have been replace a long time ago.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 24, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
My mailman (mailwoman) left me a nasty note because the bush under my mailbox was getting big. WTF shut up.

Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:44:58 PM
Horribly inefficient and rude staff. If they were a private business they'd have been replace a long time ago.

Eh I have used both them and UPS/Fed Express and I do not really see the difference except USPS is a tad cheaper.

The staff in Texas is really friendly but that is because the staff consists of Texans and not Californians and New Yorkers.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: derspiess on October 24, 2012, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 24, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
My mailman (mailwoman) left me a nasty note because the bush under my mailbox was getting big. WTF shut up.



:lol:  Nagged by the femailman.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: garbon on October 24, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:44:58 PM
Horribly inefficient and rude staff. If they were a private business they'd have been replace a long time ago.

Eh I have used both them and UPS/Fed Express and I do not really see the difference except USPS is a tad cheaper.

The staff in Texas is really friendly but that is because the staff consists of Texans and not Californians and New Yorkers.

You missed Massachusetts. ;)

Anyway my point was really that most post offices I've been to have horribly rude and lazy staff. Not really had that when I've stopped at a Mailbox Etc or the like.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 24, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 24, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
My mailman (mailwoman) left me a nasty note because the bush under my mailbox was getting big. WTF shut up.

If it's one with prickly leaves, she's got a valid gripe.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Fate on October 24, 2012, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: citizen k on October 22, 2012, 11:22:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
Damn you guys have very liberal electoral laws.  Only the Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Greens ever get on the ballot in Texas.

Who votes for the Greens outside of the Austin area?
In Lubbock county I voted Green because the Democrats aren't even on the ballot for most positions.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Fate on October 24, 2012, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
The negative - propping up a terrible org like post office.

What is wrong with the post office?

Horribly inefficient and rude staff. If they were a private business they'd have been replace a long time ago.
Your logic is faulty. You just described most fast food and Walmart employees, yet they aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Caliga on October 24, 2012, 06:48:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Anyway my point was really that most post offices I've been to have horribly rude and lazy staff. Not really had that when I've stopped at a Mailbox Etc or the like.
The postal workers here are really friendly, actually.  Then again, everyone is generally friendly here.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: lustindarkness on October 24, 2012, 07:04:44 PM
Gary Johnson/James P. Gray, Virgil Goode/James N. Clymer, Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala all show as independents in the sample ballot I just pulled up online. http://www.sos.alabama.gov/downloads/election/2012/general/sampleBallots/shelby-2012-sample.pdf  a bunch of the local positions only have one republican listed :lol:  Good ole paper ballots too.
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: Caliga on October 24, 2012, 07:07:17 PM
I actually like Jill Stein.  I wonder if she's on the Kentucky ballot. :hmm:
Title: Re: Presidential Ballot 2012
Post by: katmai on October 24, 2012, 08:22:49 PM
Just did early voting. We had Libertarian, Dems, Republican, & Green on the ballot.