Languish.org

General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:04:40 PM

Poll
Question: Which should I make for dinner?
Option 1: Taco salads
Option 2: Baked potatoes with toppers (chili, sour cream, cheese, etc.)
Option 3: You should make... (answer below)
Title: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:04:40 PM
Help me out here. I'm not sure which I want. Think easy, cheap, and yet healthy.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:04:40 PM
Help me out here. I'm not sure which I want. Think easy, cheap, and yet healthy.

Pick two.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:12:45 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:04:40 PM
Help me out here. I'm not sure which I want. Think easy, cheap, and yet healthy.

Pick two.

:huh:

I did. Check the poll options. (Yes, I understand what you're saying, but the two options presented hit all three, so there. :P)
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Pasta in tomato sauce
Chicken caesar salad (for healthy use fat-free dressing)
grill some pork chops, slice some tomatoes wrap in foil with a bit of oil and also put on the grill, steam some broccoli (or whatever veggie you have on hand)
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Pasta in tomato sauce
Chicken caesar salad (for healthy use fat-free dressing)
grill some pork chops, slice some tomatoes wrap in foil with a bit of oil and also put on the grill, steam some broccoli (or whatever veggie you have on hand)

Pasta - hadn't thought of that; good call
Chicken caesar salad - kids don't like it
Pork Chops - just had those on Sunday
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:18:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Chicken caesar salad (for healthy use fat-free dressing)
I don't get people using fat-free dressing with a salad.  If you take out the fat in the dressing, where exactly do you get the calories from?  I understand if the dressing is chock full of trans fats, but a dressing based on extra virgin olive oil seems like a must with any salad.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
Cobb salad.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 16, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Baked potatoes are healthy?  :huh:
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 04:23:20 PM
Go with the baked potatoes, knock everybody out with those carbs.  Nice and quiet evening.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:12:45 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:04:40 PM
Help me out here. I'm not sure which I want. Think easy, cheap, and yet healthy.

Pick two.

:huh:

I did. Check the poll options. (Yes, I understand what you're saying, but the two options presented hit all three, so there. :P)

I don't actually know what people eat. :(
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:18:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Chicken caesar salad (for healthy use fat-free dressing)
I don't get people using fat-free dressing with a salad.  If you take out the fat in the dressing, where exactly do you get the calories from?  I understand if the dressing is chock full of trans fats, but a dressing based on extra virgin olive oil seems like a must with any salad.

From the chicken and the salad? :unsure:
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Baked potatoes are healthy?  :huh:

Supposedly potatoes are on of the healthiest foods out there - you can live off of a diet of nothing but potatoes (with some milk).  Which of course is what many in the 19th century did (and why the irish potato famine was so deadly).

Don't confuse "fattening" with "unhealthy".
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Baked potatoes are healthy?  :huh:

Why wouldn't they be? :huh:

Chock full of vitamins, good fiber, and healthy carbs.

Nutritional Data (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2770/2)
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Baked potatoes are healthy?  :huh:

Supposedly potatoes are on of the healthiest foods out there - you can live off of a diet of nothing but potatoes (with some milk).  Which of course is what many in the 19th century did (and why the irish potato famine was so deadly).

Don't confuse "fattening" with "unhealthy".

Potatoes aren't "fattening", either. One large baked potato in its jacket with nothing on it is only 165 calories. It's not the potato that's unhealthy or fattening. It's the crap that people pile on it that is.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
In Ukraine, it was an annual tradition to obtain a sack of potatoes before the winter season and store it in one's subdivision of the apartment building basement.  One potato dish or another is pretty much all you consumed during the winter, since most other foodstuffs were out of season or too expensive.  It makes you appreciate the choice of foodstuffs when you have it.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
But they can't be a dish by itself, you need more : like a steak.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 16, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Potatoes aren't "fattening", either. One large baked potato in its jacket with nothing on it is only 165 calories. It's not the potato that's unhealthy or fattening. It's the crap that people pile on it that is.

Such as
Quotechili, sour cream, cheese, etc.
:contract:
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
But they can't be a dish by itself, you need more : like a steak.
Sure they can be.  In America potatoes are relegated mainly to side dishes, but they can make up the main course as well.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
About time she got back in the kitchen.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
But they can't be a dish by itself, you need more : like a steak.

False.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Potatoes aren't "fattening", either. One large baked potato in its jacket with nothing on it is only 165 calories. It's not the potato that's unhealthy or fattening. It's the crap that people pile on it that is.

Such as
Quotechili, sour cream, cheese, etc.
:contract:

I stopped and got broccoli on the way home, and we have leftover asparagus from last night. The sour cream is low-fat. The cheese and chili are fine in small amounts.

Moderation, my friend, is key.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
About time she got back in the kitchen.

Yeah, Meri...less uterus talk, more utensil talk.  Lulz. 

LESS SPECULUMS MORE SPATULAS
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
But they can't be a dish by itself, you need more : like a steak.

You've never heard of cheesy ham and potatoes or potato soup?
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
About time she got back in the kitchen.

Yeah, Meri...less uterus talk, more utensil talk.  Lulz. 

LESS SPECULUMS MORE SPATULAS

Keep trying, guys. It's good for the heart and soul to have goals. :hug:
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
And even though I'm late(naps do that), chicken Parmesan.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 05:11:50 PM
I'm going to do the grilled cheese and tomato soup thing tonight, myself.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 16, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
I'm going to have an oh-so-healthy baked potato.  :licklips:
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:18:34 PM
I need my baked potato Paula Deen style.

WITH A STICK OF BUTTER.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
In Ukraine, it was an annual tradition to obtain a sack of potatoes before the winter season and store it in one's subdivision of the apartment building basement.  One potato dish or another is pretty much all you consumed during the winter, since most other foodstuffs were out of season or too expensive.  It makes you appreciate the choice of foodstuffs when you have it.

Truly a worker's paradise.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
In Ukraine, it was an annual tradition to obtain a sack of potatoes before the winter season and store it in one's subdivision of the apartment building basement.  One potato dish or another is pretty much all you consumed during the winter, since most other foodstuffs were out of season or too expensive.  It makes you appreciate the choice of foodstuffs when you have it.

Truly a worker's paradise.

Now he stores blueberries.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Barrister on October 16, 2012, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
In Ukraine, it was an annual tradition to obtain a sack of potatoes before the winter season and store it in one's subdivision of the apartment building basement.  One potato dish or another is pretty much all you consumed during the winter, since most other foodstuffs were out of season or too expensive.  It makes you appreciate the choice of foodstuffs when you have it.

Truly a worker's paradise.

I'm pretty sure it was like that pre-communism.  All the ukrainian recipes I know all involved potatoes, beets and cabbage.

I made borscht on Sunday.  It was: delicious. :mmm:
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:18:34 PM
I need my baked potato Paula Deen style.

WITH A STICK OF BUTTER.

No joke.  At Thanksgiving dinner, ain't happy until my baked potato is soaked, along with my arteries.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 16, 2012, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Potatoes aren't "fattening", either. One large baked potato in its jacket with nothing on it is only 165 calories. It's not the potato that's unhealthy or fattening. It's the crap that people pile on it that is.

Such as
Quotechili, sour cream, cheese, etc.
:contract:

Better to have the chili, sour cream and cheese alone than with the potato.


Voted taco salad!
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:18:34 PM
I need my baked potato Paula Deen style.

WITH A STICK OF BUTTER.

No joke.  At Thanksgiving dinner, ain't happy until my baked potato is soaked, along with my arteries.

Then another stick of butter for the dinner rolls.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
But they can't be a dish by itself, you need more : like a steak.

You've never heard of cheesy ham and potatoes or potato soup?

Don't think so, no but that is not what you proposed.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 06:59:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
In Ukraine, it was an annual tradition to obtain a sack of potatoes before the winter season and store it in one's subdivision of the apartment building basement.  One potato dish or another is pretty much all you consumed during the winter, since most other foodstuffs were out of season or too expensive.  It makes you appreciate the choice of foodstuffs when you have it.

Truly a worker's paradise.

Now he stores blueberries.
:lol:  years later, the land lord is going to be so confused when he finds crates of blueberries in the crawlspace.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: mongers on October 16, 2012, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Baked potatoes are healthy?  :huh:

Why wouldn't they be? :huh:

Chock full of vitamins, good fiber, and healthy carbs.

Nutritional Data (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2770/2)

You missed out on one vital nutrient, protein, potatoes are a pretty poor source, something like 3-4 per 100g, so to get your recommended amount as a women of at least 30-35g* per day you'll need the equivalent of a kg or more. 

Also potatoes are hard to cook without damaging some of it's nutrition.

*for some reason this recommended daily minimum varies a lot between countries and agencies.
Title: Re: Dinner poll
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 16, 2012, 07:33:38 PM
You missed out on one vital nutrient, protein, potatoes are a pretty poor source, something like 3-4 per 100g, so to get your recommended amount as a women of at least 30-35g* per day you'll need the equivalent of a kg or more. 

Also potatoes are hard to cook without damaging some of it's nutrition.

*for some reason this recommended daily minimum varies a lot between countries and agencies.

If all I ate was a baked potato all day, you'd have a point. Luckily, my daily menu includes more than that. Besides, I add cheese, pork chili, and sour cream to my potato, which adds protein. On average, I shoot for about 70-75 g of protein a day, which I usually hit.

I find it so interesting that so many people are so convinced that potatoes are bad for you, probably because they're primarily carbs. Carbohydrates aren't bad for you unless you're a diabetic on a restricted diet.

FWIW, I ended up making chili and leaving it at that. I couldn't eat it (fucking ulcer :glare:), but the kids and my friend loved it. I had toast and jam. :(