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Poll
Question: Which is your favorite uniform?
Option 1: TOS votes: 2
Option 2: TMP (belted, overall color) votes: 1
Option 3: TWoK "Monster Maroons" votes: 10
Option 4: TNG Mk.I (jumpsuit, piping, no collar) votes: 0
Option 5: TNG Mk.II (2 piece, collar, no piping) votes: 5
Option 6: DS9 Mk.I (colored shoulders, grey under) votes: 2
Option 7: DS9 Mk.II (grey ribbed shoulders, colored wrists/under) votes: 6
Option 8: VOY (colored shoulders, brighter than DS9 Mk.I) votes: 0
Option 9: ENT (blue jumpsuit, colored piping) votes: 6
Option 10: Other votes: 1
Title: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 09, 2012, 12:00:06 AM
Working on some costuming for Halloween, and just wondering where everybody stands on the uniforms.  I'm opening up triple-voting for the indecisive; for me, it's a tie between the Monster Maroons and the DS9 Mk.II.

The Monster Maroons make the best dress uniforms, bar none.  The DS9 Mk.II gets its place for daily shipboard duty- it looks smart, it's not complex, so it's not going to take a lot of valuable storage space, and unlike most of the other Trek uniforms, the department color isn't overbearing- if you imagine the colored bands as cords, an officer on rotation could use two undershirts and two pairs of bands with one pair of blacks.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Viking on October 09, 2012, 12:03:13 AM
Enterprise - because they look most like a standard jumpsuit as one would have in space with a central laundry providing everybody with clothing.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 09, 2012, 12:08:39 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 09, 2012, 12:03:13 AM
Enterprise - because they look most like a standard jumpsuit as one would have in space with a central laundry providing everybody with clothing.

Agreed.  It runs a close second for me for exactly that reason.  The costume designer obviously started out by looking over NASA shuttle crew uniforms.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:14:49 AM
No question:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.newsarama.com%2Fimages%2FWrath-of-Khan-Crew.jpg&hash=3f73958d268186b59cce19ca1a874b2d591b72af)

Followed by DS9 Mk2/TNG movies.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:16:59 AM
Also, where's the future uniforms on that poll? :P

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/2395-2405/uniforms.htm

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/29thcentury/uniforms.htm
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 09, 2012, 12:17:28 AM
I've always thought Star Fleet uniforms looked kind of dumb. /shrug
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Phillip V on October 09, 2012, 12:19:30 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fteens.icpl.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F06%2Fuhura11.jpg&hash=4ae7d4aec481faf22df782becc69e865f06505de)(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F13900000%2FSaldana_Uhura-zoe-saldanas-uhura-13963685-594-1599.jpg&hash=137561f080dfd9096aaae18113a7058bb1281d26)
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:22:28 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2012, 12:17:28 AM
I've always thought Star Fleet uniforms looked kind of dumb. /shrug

Well, I've always been partial to these outfits:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_N_ozKEpiQps%2FSYNcp67DyLI%2FAAAAAAAAA-o%2FvCaZoNle_PQ%2Fs320%2FGroup01.jpg&hash=102d73a8eb32dbf131358272a2d47ea4eb3a4a7c)

:wub:
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 09, 2012, 12:32:10 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:16:59 AM
Also, where's the future uniforms on that poll? :P

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/2395-2405/uniforms.htm

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/29thcentury/uniforms.htm

The AGT uniforms are definitely popular, but getting filed under "other" for only appearing in three episodes across three series. ;)
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Sophie Scholl on October 09, 2012, 01:54:52 AM
TOS, Enterprise, and the new movie ones are my current favorites.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Brazen on October 09, 2012, 06:24:03 AM
TNG Mk II. Have you ever WORN a jumpsuit? So impractical!
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 09, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
I've always been partial to the DS9 ones. Especially the later version. Excluding the Bajoran eyesores, of course.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 11:46:21 AM
It all comes down to what you're used to, of course.

I grew up with the "monster maroons", so that was my single vote.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 11:46:21 AM
I grew up with the "monster maroons", so that was my single vote.

They're the most "navy" of them all, as far as I'm concerned.

Which is why Gene Roddenberry totally hated them.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 11:46:21 AM
I grew up with the "monster maroons", so that was my single vote.

They're the most "navy" of them all, as far as I'm concerned.

Which is why Gene Roddenberry totally hated them.

I don't know about "navy".  They certainly look like military uniforms, not jump-suits, but if I had to pick a real-life equivalent, I'd say they look an awful lot like:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canada-photos.com%2Fimages%2F500%2Frcmp-academy-uniforms_5206-5104.jpg&hash=b08737fb3c35cb3abecdc1137721ba09f650c72f)

minus the stetsons.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 11:46:21 AM
I grew up with the "monster maroons", so that was my single vote.

They're the most "navy" of them all, as far as I'm concerned.

Which is why Gene Roddenberry totally hated them.

I never got how his "we're peaceful explorers" idea meshed with and armed StarFLEET which had clearly a military structure.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 09, 2012, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
I never got how his "we're peaceful explorers" idea meshed with and armed StarFLEET which had clearly a military structure.

I've heard it said that it was more intended to resemble the coast guard than the navy.  The book "Ship of the Line" illustrated this really well with the Bozeman's border patrol, depicting it as a cutter, not a naval warship.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
I never got how his "we're peaceful explorers" idea meshed with and armed StarFLEET which had clearly a military structure.

Because he was Utopian weenie from the fucking 60s.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: FunkMonk on October 09, 2012, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 09, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
I never got how his "we're peaceful explorers" idea meshed with and armed StarFLEET which had clearly a military structure.

Because he was Utopian weenie from the fucking 60s.

You guys are trapped in your close-minded, conflict-ridden 20th century thinking, whereas Roddenberry was thinking in a super-happy, rainbows-for-all 23rd century mindset. You're just behind the curve.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 09, 2012, 04:56:20 PM
You guys are trapped in your close-minded, conflict-ridden 20th century thinking, whereas Roddenberry was thinking in a super-happy, rainbows-for-all 23rd century mindset. You're just behind the curve.

I'm waiting for the Eugenics Wars to turn it all around, man.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
Chicks looked great in the jump suits.  Dudes looked like dorkwads.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: dps on October 09, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
Chicks looked great in the jump suits. 

Yeah, but if we're talking chicks, we should just go with TOS miniskirts.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
Your POV is a reasonable one, but personally I like the crotch huggers better.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Tonitrus on October 09, 2012, 05:48:09 PM
Quote from: dps on October 09, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
Chicks looked great in the jump suits. 

Yeah, but if we're talking chicks, we should just go with TOS miniskirts.

There was a TNG miniskirt, but I think it was worn only by Troi and only in the pilot.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 09, 2012, 05:49:14 PM
Troi's season one minidress, sans the stupid bun. :mmm:
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 09, 2012, 11:05:28 PM
Say, BB, what kind of fitness requirements do the RCMP have?
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 11:10:55 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2012, 11:05:28 PM
Say, BB, what kind of fitness requirements do the RCMP have?

Fairly tough fitness requirements.    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recruiting-recrutement/rec/pare-tape-eng.htm if you're curious. 

Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 09, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
Some pear shapes in the pic you posted earlier, especially the chick in the front row.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Barrister on October 09, 2012, 11:27:11 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
Some pear shapes in the pic you posted earlier, especially the chick in the front row.  :hmm:

Those pants are NOT flattering to the thighs.

And fitness requirements are not the same as thinness requirements.  My wife, once upon a time, was accepted into the RCMP, and she is best described as "curvy". :web:
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 09, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
Being thin might not be a requirement, but it sure helps. When I was a 150 lb high school freshman, I could run a mile in 7 minutes. Now I'd be doing well to get in under 13.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Barrister on October 10, 2012, 12:22:44 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
Being thin might not be a requirement, but it sure helps. When I was a 150 lb high school freshman, I could run a mile in 7 minutes. Now I'd be doing well to get in under 13.

Again, if you're curious, start following the links.  Strength is a significant part of the PARE test.  It's not just about being fast.
Title: Re: Best Star Trek Uniform?
Post by: Neil on October 10, 2012, 07:37:58 AM
Yeah, I think you're just looking at the weird pants.