Say you pull up to the stop 3rd. The person directly opposite you is first. The person driving perpendicular to you is 2nd.
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two, or do you wait your turn?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Say you pull up to the stop 3rd. The person directly opposite you is first. The person driving perpendicular to you is 2nd.
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two, or do you wait your turn?
I curse the idiot who put stop signs at an intersection that can have three cars in it at the same time.
Seriously, though, I go by the book. The less clever things I think of while driving, the easier I find it to drive.
4-way stops are stupid. Roundabout is the way to go.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two,
Yep.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Say you pull up to the stop 3rd. The person directly opposite you is first. The person driving perpendicular to you is 2nd.
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two, or do you wait your turn?
Meh, if you got the time, fuck it; if the guy opposite you is going straight, hit the gas. Just make sure it's not a little old lady who's making a left without her blinker. :lol:
Act like a Euro and sit at the stop until they are all clear. Then look both ways and if there is a car coming anywhere within half a block, yield again.
Otherwise, if the car opposite you is crossing, you are allowed to cross.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Say you pull up to the stop 3rd. The person directly opposite you is first. The person driving perpendicular to you is 2nd.
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two, or do you wait your turn?
I would suggest you go back to driver's ed.
Quote from: 11B4V on September 06, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
I would suggest you go back to driver's ed.
Fuck you, copper. You can't catch me.
There's a 4 way stop near my house where 3 of the lanes also have a left turn lane, so it is really a 7 way stop. Talk about a clusterfuck.
Quote from: sbr on September 06, 2012, 06:23:14 PM
There's a 4 way stop near my house where 3 of the lanes also have a left turn lane, so it is really a 7 way stop. Talk about a clusterfuck.
That sounds Wyoming retarded.
Quote from: 11B4V on September 06, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
I would suggest you go back to driver's ed.
You arrive at a 4-way stop with three other vehicles simultaneously. Do you:
1) Go first
2) Allow the vehicle to the right of you the right of way
3) Sit back, relax and watch everybody else fuck a football like monkeys for 5 minutes
3. Always 3.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 06, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
I would suggest you go back to driver's ed.
You arrive at a 4-way stop with three other vehicles simultaneously. Do you:
1) Go first
2) Allow the vehicle to the right of you the right of way
3) Sit back, relax and watch everybody else fuck a football like monkeys for 5 minutes
I'd go with option 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2 ...
Whatever option gets the most cars through in the shortest time is the polite one.
BTW, I've started the habit of pointing at the driver I think has the next go. Anything to avoid that jerk,stop,smile,jerk,wave,jerk,stop,wave.
I gun the engine on my Challenger.
The question is incomplete, are the other two cars smaller than my truck? :hmm:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
BTW, I've started the habit of pointing at the driver I think has the next go.
Yeah, more out of self preservation and the realization others will rarely get it right without some direction.
I usually just gun it and come what may. :showoff:
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 06, 2012, 06:55:25 PM
I usually just gun it and come what may. :showoff:
That is the manly way. :showoff:
:)
I wait. I live in Montreal, blinkers are optional.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 06, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 06, 2012, 06:55:25 PM
I usually just gun it and come what may. :showoff:
That is the manly way. :showoff:
"Ask yourself one question, punk: do you value your car more than I value mine? Think about it."
It is time to get a new model anyway. :)
I'm probably much more important than the other jerks, ergo I assume that I have the right of way. :cool:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.premierfootballbooks.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fattractions%2Fmagic_roundabout.jpg&hash=df9cca5c90e82b017a483fa0391c2b45cd47a6a9)
:bowler:
I wish we had more of those here. Traffic lights :mad:
Hey kids! Big Ben! Parliament!
Those people are so weird over there.
Quote from: Caliga on September 06, 2012, 07:13:42 PM
I wish we had more of those here. Traffic lights :mad:
A nice American has even drawn up a schematic on how to navigate it:
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:cool:
That looks confusing as hell.
WTF? They're all going the wrong way.
Yea, that made it clearer Mongo
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
Those people are so weird over there.
Your car gets beat to hell. My friend Aimee's Citeron was dinged up pretty badly from those frog ones. Scratches that no amount of polish is gonna help.
But she is a girl, so it is to be expected.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Say you pull up to the stop 3rd. The person directly opposite you is first. The person driving perpendicular to you is 2nd.
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two, or do you wait your turn?
Goddamn asian drivers.
Magic roundabout?! :lol:
If you blur your vision enough, it looks like a twisted wheel rim.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 06, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
Hey kids! Big Ben! Parliament!
iirc the roundabout in it is outside Lambeth Palace on the Southbank and ironically it's a pretty quite road intersection, from the times I've been over it (one of my shortcuts to the Imperial War Museum) .
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 06, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
Those people are so weird over there.
But she is a girl, so it is to be expected.
Q - Why couldn't Helen Keller drive?
A - She was a woman.
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 06, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
Magic roundabout?! :lol:
iirc that was the name the locals gave it, when it became a national joke/point of interest, the bureaucrats eventually relented and that's it's official name.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F5%2F58%2FMagic_Roundabout_Schild_db.jpg%2F800px-Magic_Roundabout_Schild_db.jpg&hash=7f233197ed8cbcb8c710a3794af67428b035d85b)
Quote from: mongers on September 06, 2012, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 06, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
Magic roundabout?! :lol:
iirc that was the name the locals gave it, when it became a national joke/point of interest, the bureaucrats eventually relented and that's it's official name.
You English are amazing :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Say you pull up to the stop 3rd. The person directly opposite you is first. The person driving perpendicular to you is 2nd.
Do you cross at the same time the guy opposite from you goes, figuring it's no additonal time lost for Mr. Two, or do you wait your turn?
If you pulled 3rd, that means the 1st car already has had the time to start crossing. So, no, I would wait my turn if I want to go straight. If I turn right though, I go right away.
Some places outside of Quebec people actually stop at stop signs.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 06, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
BTW, I've started the habit of pointing at the driver I think has the next go. Anything to avoid that jerk,stop,smile,jerk,wave,jerk,stop,wave.
What if you both point at each other at the same time?
Rock, paper, scissors
Quote from: Maximus on September 06, 2012, 09:19:50 PM
Some places outside of Quebec people actually stop at stop signs.
:lol: Yeah, I assume Yi meant all cars were stopped. If car 1 is already in the intersection when you pull to a stop, then you wait for car 2.
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 06, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 06, 2012, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 06, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
Magic roundabout?! :lol:
iirc that was the name the locals gave it, when it became a national joke/point of interest, the bureaucrats eventually relented and that's it's official name.
You English are amazing :lol:
There's an area in Winnipeg where 5 fairly major roads all converge in the same area. It got nicknamed "Confusion Corner", and picked up to the point where a neighboring business is now called the "Confusion Corner Bar and Grill".
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=winnipeg+manitoba&hl=en&ll=49.874314,-97.142015&spn=0.003177,0.005289&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=62.74193,86.660156&hnear=Winnipeg,+Division+No.+11,+Manitoba,+Canada&t=m&z=18
There is a five-street roundabout in Sparks that they are considering taking out because idiot drivers get confused. It's easy. People are stupid. The cops have done a study on it and the biggest problems are apparently people stopping at yield signs as though they were stop signs and people ignoring the fact that the roundabout has multiple lanes in the circle.
Quote from: mongers on September 06, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
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:bowler:
WTF...thought it was a photoshop till I read the rest of the thread.
Why does that monstrosity exist?
Quote from: Tyr on September 06, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 06, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
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:bowler:
WTF...thought it was a photoshop till I read the rest of the thread.
Why does that monstrosity exist?
Because overall, roundabouts are a good way of improving traffic flow and this one is just at the extreme end of the development.
Tyr you should also know there, are others like it elsewhere; rumoured to be at least another two, one of which maybe even more complicated. :ph34r:
roundabouts are good. But tiered roundabouts like that? I don't get how it would be any easier than just having the one big roundabout.
Looks confusing...
On smaller, remote two-lane road intersections, I think roundabouts are awesome, even if just to avoid the "waiting at a red light when you're the only car there" factor, or pointless stop signs. But these multi-tiered roundabouts for massive intersections is probably worse than a standard intersection.