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Title: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
I can't find Seedy's old RPG thread and I don't want to hijack other threads.

Thanks to that fucker Seedy mentioning Space:1889, I've been on a buying binge online. GURPS sourcebooks, and other assorted shit.

Question is, Is that Savage Worlds one any good? You kids and your new RPG books.

Also, after a break of several months I persuaded my friends to re-start the Paranoia game via message board. Time to shove people communists into feces processors!
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
 :lol:  First wargame binging, and now RPGs. I Jedi mindfuck you into adopting street cats, and I get a hat trick.


IIRC, Jacob is a big fan of Savage Worlds.  But I may be incorrect.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 02:00:46 PM
Did you know the Space 1889 pdf is only 8 bucks? I DO NOW. $$

:mad:
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
You ought to check out the Twilight:2000/2300 stuff.  Those bundles are practically a give away.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
ARRRRGH
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
You ought to check out the Twilight:2000/2300 stuff.  Those bundles are practically a give away.

Link me, s'il vous plais.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/index.php?cPath=23


Take it from there.  Check out the Twilight:2013 reboot as well.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/index.php?cPath=23


Take it from there.  Check out the Twilight:2013 reboot as well.

I took a look at it.  Twilight 2000 had some silly shit in it (Italy attacks Austria or something, Mexico goes to war with the US), but the 2013 setting is just one bizarre absurdity after another.  France declares ware on Belarus and launches a nuclear strike.  Russia moves into Belarus and launches a nuclear attack on France.  France launches back but for some reason the US anti-ballistic missile is activated to stop the French nukes from hitting Russia.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
I took a look at it.  Twilight 2000 had some silly shit in it

ITS NOT YOUR GENERATION MAN
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/index.php?cPath=23


Take it from there.  Check out the Twilight:2013 reboot as well.

ZOMG they have the complete Journal of the Traveller's Aid Society.  I hunted used bookstores for a few years for those, don't think I have more than 8-10 though.

But hell - for being PDFs they're not all that cheap...
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
DAMMIT. Just noticed the bundle of Challenge magazines. Being a GDW fanboy, I'm finding that impossible to resist.

SHIT.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
I took a look at it.  Twilight 2000 had some silly shit in it

ITS NOT YOUR GENERATION MAN

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLx672.gif&hash=e5041413e2f814422bec1f0f6334eb394e71d229)

Source is the US census bureau.

Raz: born 1981.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Raz: born 1981.

I don't count you.  You're a New Boomer fucktard.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Hansmeister on August 29, 2012, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
I can't find Seedy's old RPG thread and I don't want to hijack other threads.

Thanks to that fucker Seedy mentioning Space:1889, I've been on a buying binge online. GURPS sourcebooks, and other assorted shit.

Question is, Is that Savage Worlds one any good? You kids and your new RPG books.

Also, after a break of several months I persuaded my friends to re-start the Paranoia game via message board. Time to shove people communists into feces processors!
I had mentioned Space 1889, I played the Savage World edition and it is a great system.  We actually combined it with Deadwood since it takes place during the same time period to give players more options for characters.  Savage Worlds is a simple, yet elegant system.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Raz: born 1981.

I don't count you.  You're a New Boomer fucktard.

The Graph disagrees.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on August 29, 2012, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
I can't find Seedy's old RPG thread and I don't want to hijack other threads.

Thanks to that fucker Seedy mentioning Space:1889, I've been on a buying binge online. GURPS sourcebooks, and other assorted shit.

Question is, Is that Savage Worlds one any good? You kids and your new RPG books.

Also, after a break of several months I persuaded my friends to re-start the Paranoia game via message board. Time to shove people communists into feces processors!

Have you just been lurking here all this time?
I had mentioned Space 1889, I played the Savage World edition and it is a great system.  We actually combined it with Deadwood since it takes place during the same time period to give players more options for characters.  Savage Worlds is a simple, yet elegant system.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Habbaku on August 29, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on August 29, 2012, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
I can't find Seedy's old RPG thread and I don't want to hijack other threads.

Thanks to that fucker Seedy mentioning Space:1889, I've been on a buying binge online. GURPS sourcebooks, and other assorted shit.

Question is, Is that Savage Worlds one any good? You kids and your new RPG books.

Also, after a break of several months I persuaded my friends to re-start the Paranoia game via message board. Time to shove people communists into feces processors!

Have you just been lurking here all this time?
I had mentioned Space 1889, I played the Savage World edition and it is a great system.  We actually combined it with Deadwood since it takes place during the same time period to give players more options for characters.  Savage Worlds is a simple, yet elegant system.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Jaron on August 29, 2012, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 29, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on August 29, 2012, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
I can't find Seedy's old RPG thread and I don't want to hijack other threads.

Thanks to that fucker Seedy mentioning Space:1889, I've been on a buying binge online. GURPS sourcebooks, and other assorted shit.

Question is, Is that Savage Worlds one any good? You kids and your new RPG books.

Also, after a break of several months I persuaded my friends to re-start the Paranoia game via message board. Time to shove people communists into feces processors!

Have you just been lurking here all this time?
I had mentioned Space 1889, I played the Savage World edition and it is a great system.  We actually combined it with Deadwood since it takes place during the same time period to give players more options for characters.  Savage Worlds is a simple, yet elegant system.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Neil on August 29, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Raz: born 1981.

I don't count you.  You're a New Boomer fucktard.

The Graph disagrees.
Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Martinus on August 30, 2012, 02:07:18 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 29, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Raz: born 1981.

I don't count you.  You're a New Boomer fucktard.

The Graph disagrees.
Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy.
It beats baseless assertion, though. :P
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on August 30, 2012, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 29, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Raz: born 1981.

I don't count you.  You're a New Boomer fucktard.

The Graph disagrees.
Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy.

But... You are the authority!
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: The Brain on August 30, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: Jaron on August 29, 2012, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 29, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 29, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on August 29, 2012, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
I can't find Seedy's old RPG thread and I don't want to hijack other threads.

Thanks to that fucker Seedy mentioning Space:1889, I've been on a buying binge online. GURPS sourcebooks, and other assorted shit.

Question is, Is that Savage Worlds one any good? You kids and your new RPG books.

Also, after a break of several months I persuaded my friends to re-start the Paranoia game via message board. Time to shove people communists into feces processors!

Have you just been lurking here all this time?
I had mentioned Space 1889, I played the Savage World edition and it is a great system.  We actually combined it with Deadwood since it takes place during the same time period to give players more options for characters.  Savage Worlds is a simple, yet elegant system.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: The Brain on August 30, 2012, 12:28:12 PM
Haven't played Savage Worlds. Will probably restart Call of Cthulhu soon. 40k Rogue Trader also likely.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on August 30, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
First let me start out by saying: damn you Ed Anger! :ultra:

I have been surfing through all the old, and new, Traveller material that's out.  I'm of course at least 12 years out of date on this stuff.

But I don't think PDFs are going to cut it.

Is there anywhere one can turn to buy copies of old Traveller stuff?  There's got to be a market for this kind of material, right?
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 30, 2012, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 30, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
First let me start out by saying: damn you Ed Anger! :ultra:

I have been surfing through all the old, and new, Traveller material that's out.  I'm of course at least 12 years out of date on this stuff.

But I don't think PDFs are going to cut it.

Is there anywhere one can turn to buy copies of old Traveller stuff?  There's got to be a market for this kind of material, right?

Blame Seedy. Amazon marketplace might be a good start.

Or the reprints.

http://www.farfuture.net/
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 30, 2012, 04:53:14 PM
I loaded a bunch of stuff on my ipad. PRAY FOR ME.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2012, 04:57:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 30, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
Is there anywhere one can turn to buy copies of old Traveller stuff?  There's got to be a market for this kind of material, right?

"I see black books...everywhere."

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpgs/traveller.html?limit=30
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
A helpful website for us old fuckheads:

http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/encyclopedia/index.html
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on August 31, 2012, 02:55:23 PM
I discovered there was a semi-official Traveller setting (officially licensed, but not put out by Marc Miller) which actually expands on the Traveller: TNE timeline.  T4 setting itself in the past, and GURPS Traveller just pretending the Rebellion didn't happen, leave me cold.

But after finding that it is now out of print, and the sole hard copy that was for sale was listed for $1000 :rolleyes:, I have violated my principles and 'acquired' a PDF.

And now the afternoon's productivity is shot to hell...
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 03:01:42 PM
Ugh, TNE. The virus bullshit.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on August 31, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 03:01:42 PM
Ugh, TNE. The virus bullshit.

The virus was... okay.  I viewed it as a Deus Ex Machine which re-set the universe.  The Rebellion had painted itself into a corner, ironically with the Hard Times book you used as an avatar.  It showed that nobody was going to win the war and things were just deteriorating for everyone.

Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 04:22:35 PM
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Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: mongers on August 31, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
A helpful website for us old fuckheads:

http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/encyclopedia/index.html

Damn, some of that shit I remember first time around.   <_<
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 01:56:13 PM
Oh Beeb!

http://www.travellermap.com/

Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 01:56:13 PM
Oh Beeb!

http://www.travellermap.com/

:worship:

That is awesome.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 01:56:13 PM
Oh Beeb!

http://www.travellermap.com/

:worship:

That is awesome.

Follow the dotted line core ward. See how long you can take it.  :lol:
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 01, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Still can't touch the expanse and complete fucked-upedness of the Warhammer 40K universe.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: The Brain on September 01, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
Hatred is the Emperor's greatest gift to humanity.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 04:22:35 PM
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You know, I'm going to use that cat.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: The Brain on September 01, 2012, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 04:22:35 PM
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You know, I'm going to use that cat.

:)
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 05:42:05 PM
Pro Tip: When loading pdf's on an iPad, don't turn on wi-fi sync. It will kill your ping.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 05:45:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 01, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Still can't touch the expanse and complete fucked-upedness of the Warhammer 40K universe.

Meh.  Not exactly apples and oranges, but perhaps oranges and lemons - two different flavours of citrus.

WH40K is epic space fantasy.

Traveller is has harder science and is more space opera than anything else.

And while Traveller has largely been pining for the fjords since GDW went under in the mid 90s, that still gave it almost 20 years of development and history behind it.  WH40K hasn't been around nearly as long, and still hasn't equalled the years of creative output and development that Traveller had.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 01, 2012, 05:57:25 PM
Bah, WH40K'a only been around since 1987, and while Traveller may be crunchier, the sheer brutal and unmitigated horror of the WH40K universe trumps it.
It's like playing in the middle of the cut scenes of Event Horizon.  :P







Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
I kinda of found 40k silly rather then dark.  It really feels like something aimed at 15 year old boys.  I guess if you are into overwrought purple prose drama, it's okay.  Some of the models are good though.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 01, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
I kinda of found 40k silly rather then dark.  It really feels like something aimed at 15 year old boys. 

:blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh:
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
I kinda of found 40k silly rather then dark.  It really feels like something aimed at 15 year old boys.  I guess if you are into overwrought purple prose drama, it's okay.  Some of the models are good though.

PURGE THE HERETIC
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
I have to embrace my inner 15 year old sometimes.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
I have to embrace my inner 15 year old sometimes.

It was an odd line by Raz.  I mean the only reason I like Traveller is because I LOVED it when I was 12 (not even 15).  So I fully support embracing your inner pre-teen.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:58:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
I have to embrace my inner 15 year old sometimes.

MART: HAY GUISE!
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
I have to embrace my inner 15 year old sometimes.

It was an odd line by Raz.  I mean the only reason I like Traveller is because I LOVED it when I was 12 (not even 15).  So I fully support embracing your inner pre-teen.

This recent buying splurge is a tribute to the old Ed. The one who would play wargames by day, and deflower girls by night.

I miss him sooooooooo much.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 01, 2012, 05:57:25 PM
Bah, WH40K'a only been around since 1987, and while Traveller may be crunchier, the sheer brutal and unmitigated horror of the WH40K universe trumps it.
It's like playing in the middle of the cut scenes of Event Horizon.  :P

You should try reading the over-wrought shite that is this Traveller: 1248 scenario.  Emperor Lucan gets downloaded into a computer forming the Black Imperium.  The K'kree (by the way my favourite race) go on an intergalactic jihad to exterminate meat-eaters.  Capital gets conquered and re-conquered about six or seven times within 20 years.  Emperor Strephon's son returns from the galactic beyond to form the Fourth Imperium.

And yes - it was oficially licensed.

Yet I can't stop reading. :shame:
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 07:06:37 PM
LOL. PETA writes RPG books.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
I have to embrace my inner 15 year old sometimes.

It was an odd line by Raz.  I mean the only reason I like Traveller is because I LOVED it when I was 12 (not even 15).  So I fully support embracing your inner pre-teen.

Eh, just my feeling.  Stuff I liked when I was 15 (or what ever age) I don't necessarily like now.  I still like RPGs, but a setting where everyone has a skull motif like it's Halloween doesn't have the same impact as it once did.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 07:29:52 PM
For more fun genocide, the Battletech Jihad books are amusing. If you can stand the writing style.

Writer 1: I LIKE NUKES
Writer 2: I LIKE POISON GAS
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
I try to avoid books by game publishers.  I read some of the D&D ones.  Bleh.  Even at age 15 (actually don't know how old I was.  Probably under 15), I thought they sucked.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Barrister on September 01, 2012, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
I try to avoid books by game publishers.  I read some of the D&D ones.  Bleh.  Even at age 15 (actually don't know how old I was.  Probably under 15), I thought they sucked.

Indeed.  While I read several, I realized they were generally crap.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: The Brain on September 02, 2012, 01:46:06 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 01, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
I kinda of found 40k silly rather then dark.  It really feels like something aimed at 15 year old boys. 

I'm telling Him on Terra.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
40k is so dark as to be almost ridiculous.  Out of all the peoples of the universe, only the Eldar aren't morally abhorrent.  The Tau and the Empire are space Nazis, the Tyrannids are evil from beyond space, the Orks are murderous barbarians, everyone related to Chaos is actively engaged in the gleeful commission of attrocities and the Necrons went from being tragic ancient monsters deceived by evil gods to being retarded mummies in space.

You can't really compare it to Traveller though, as Traveller occasionally has events and a narrative, like the Rebellion.  In 40k, nothing changes and the whole universe is just a prop to sell models and fight battles with miniatures.  Totally different animals.

As for the Virus, I felt that it was Traveller changing with the times.  The older school sci-fi of adventuring within a great space empire doesn't really fit with a lot of people these days who don't have experience with stuff from the 60s and 70s.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 07:29:52 PM
For more fun genocide, the Battletech Jihad books are amusing. If you can stand the writing style.

Writer 1: I LIKE NUKES
Writer 2: I LIKE POISON GAS
Battletech books were fucking awful.

Victor Steiner-Davion can fucking die.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 02, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
I was talking about the source books, not the novels.  :yuk:

I read the source books for entertainment. And wonder what people was on when they wrote them.

Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Neil on September 02, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
I was talking about the source books, not the novels.  :yuk:

I read the source books for entertainment. And wonder what people was on when they wrote them.
I can accept that.  I love reading sourcebooks.  But I hate Victor more than any real-life political figure.
Title: Re: {+5 jockstrap} RPG's Y'all!
Post by: Razgovory on September 02, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
I was talking about the source books, not the novels.  :yuk:

I read the source books for entertainment. And wonder what people was on when they wrote them.

Copyright infringement.
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Post by: Razgovory on September 02, 2012, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
I was talking about the source books, not the novels.  :yuk:

I read the source books for entertainment. And wonder what people was on when they wrote them.
I can accept that.  I love reading sourcebooks.  But I hate Victor more than any real-life political figure.

Yeah, I admit, it's my weakness as well. (sourcebooks, not Victor a character I know nothing about).
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Post by: Tonitrus on September 02, 2012, 06:40:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 07:29:52 PM
For more fun genocide, the Battletech Jihad books are amusing. If you can stand the writing style.

Writer 1: I LIKE NUKES
Writer 2: I LIKE POISON GAS
Battletech books were fucking awful.

Victor Steiner-Davion can fucking die.

I thought "Heir to the Dragon" was really good.  Everything else is mostly schlock.

And yes, Victor is the Wesley Crusher of the Battletech universe.  Must die in a fire.
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Post by: Ed Anger on September 02, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
He got Jap strange. OMG SPOILER.

Anyways, speaking of BT, their forums are funny as balls. People analyze each new release and get awfully angry if their widdle faction gets hosed. The angry Capellan fan is especially hilarious.

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Post by: Neil on September 02, 2012, 07:28:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
He got Jap strange. OMG SPOILER.

Anyways, speaking of BT, their forums are funny as balls. People analyze each new release and get awfully angry if their widdle faction gets hosed. The angry Capellan fan is especially hilarious.
Except for FWL fans, because we got hosed on every release and so didn't expect anything else.
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Post by: Tonitrus on September 02, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
I went through a Kurita phase (oooh dragons!), then had a soft spot for the FWL (well, they could be the closest thing to a democracy among all these pompous tyrants), and then a Periphery-tard (Taurian Concordant FTW!)
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Post by: Barrister on September 02, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 02, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
I went through a Kurita phase (oooh dragons!), then had a soft spot for the FWL (well, they could be the closest thing to a democracy among all these pompous tyrants), and then a Periphery-tard (Taurian Concordant FTW!)

I went from being a Steiner apologist to a Periphery-Tard.

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Post by: Tonitrus on September 02, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 02, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 02, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
I went through a Kurita phase (oooh dragons!), then had a soft spot for the FWL (well, they could be the closest thing to a democracy among all these pompous tyrants), and then a Periphery-tard (Taurian Concordant FTW!)

I went from being a Steiner apologist to a Periphery-Tard.

I always pegged you for a Magistracy of Canopus hedonist.  :P

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Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 02, 2012, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
40k is so dark as to be almost ridiculous.  Out of all the peoples of the universe, only the Eldar aren't morally abhorrent.  The Tau and the Empire are space Nazis, the Tyrannids are evil from beyond space, the Orks are murderous barbarians, everyone related to Chaos is actively engaged in the gleeful commission of attrocities and the Necrons went from being tragic ancient monsters deceived by evil gods to being retarded mummies in space.

You can't really compare it to Traveller though, as Traveller occasionally has events and a narrative, like the Rebellion.  In 40k, nothing changes and the whole universe is just a prop to sell models and fight battles with miniatures.  Totally different animals.

As for the Virus, I felt that it was Traveller changing with the times.  The older school sci-fi of adventuring within a great space empire doesn't really fit with a lot of people these days who don't have experience with stuff from the 60s and 70s.
The joys of the Horus Heresy for the Warhammer 40k setting.  Humanity is still relatively "good" and there's some hope for a better future.  Then... boom.  Fun to watch it all go to shit though.
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Post by: Razgovory on September 02, 2012, 10:30:51 PM
In the Future there is only War, and there is a Hot Topic on every corner.
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Post by: CountDeMoney on September 02, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 02, 2012, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
40k is so dark as to be almost ridiculous.  Out of all the peoples of the universe, only the Eldar aren't morally abhorrent.  The Tau and the Empire are space Nazis, the Tyrannids are evil from beyond space, the Orks are murderous barbarians, everyone related to Chaos is actively engaged in the gleeful commission of attrocities and the Necrons went from being tragic ancient monsters deceived by evil gods to being retarded mummies in space.

The joys of the Horus Heresy for the Warhammer 40k setting.  Humanity is still relatively "good" and there's some hope for a better future.  Then... boom.  Fun to watch it all go to shit though.

I can see where people pooh-pooh the WH40K setting as adolescent horror porn, but the fact that there is absolutely no redeeming qualities in human existence is exactly what makes it so compelling.  It's the ultimate Hobbesian universe, with a splash of the most insane medievalism. 
Technology misunderstood to the point that it's treated as religious relic, ships so ancient they require thousands of poor souls to run them, the depravity of the human existence is matched only by the horrors of the universe it faces, where FTL travel runs the risk of tearing open the Warp and the unconscionable evils within it. 

It ain't for your average Lawful Good Paladin, I'll say that.
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Post by: CountDeMoney on September 02, 2012, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2012, 10:30:51 PM
In the Future there is only War, and there is a Hot Topic on every corner.

Amen, bro.  Misfits tees for all.
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Post by: Razgovory on September 02, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
I kinda get the impression that's it's an over the top parody of Gothic themes and tropes.  Which is what Warhammer the fantasy game was.  Then they put it in space, to make it even more over the top.
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Post by: jimmy olsen on September 03, 2012, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
40k is so dark as to be almost ridiculous.  Out of all the peoples of the universe, only the Eldar aren't morally abhorrent.
:yeahright:

The Tau are more like space communists, and I find them the least evil (though they would rate quite high on the evil meter in real life).
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Post by: Barrister on September 03, 2012, 01:30:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 03, 2012, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
40k is so dark as to be almost ridiculous.  Out of all the peoples of the universe, only the Eldar aren't morally abhorrent.
:yeahright:

The Tau are more like space communists, and I find them the least evil (though they would rate quite high on the evil meter in real life).

In the spirit of this thread...

SolSec is watching you after that comment.  :ph34r:
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Post by: Neil on September 03, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
That was something interesting about Traveller, that even the local humans were different.
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Post by: The Brain on September 03, 2012, 01:40:02 PM
There are nice guys in 40k. People who practice freedom, enlightenment etc. Traitors and heretics all.
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Post by: jimmy olsen on September 04, 2012, 12:19:56 AM
I read GURPS Ice Age 3rd Edition recently. It was pretty good.
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Post by: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 12:23:08 AM
GURPS sourcebooks are pretty good, though scholarship could be a little better.
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Post by: Barrister on September 04, 2012, 01:09:06 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 03, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
That was something interesting about Traveller, that even the local humans were different.

I remember buying Alien Module 6: Solomani, and having my 11 year old mind blown when I realized that humans from earth were not the be-all and end-all of the Third Imperium...
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Post by: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 09:03:16 AM
Earlier this year I bought me some Space:1889 and HârnMaster. Didn't play them back in the day but whatever.
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Post by: mongers on September 04, 2012, 04:31:08 PM
Love the cover on this one:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FVISuperSize%26amp%3Bitem%3D130754202026&hash=94280ec47383d07a16912738044751a370e2b984)
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Post by: Ed Anger on September 06, 2012, 06:47:23 AM
So like Beeb, I read the 1248 traveller sourcebook. Holy crap, that is some bleak shit.
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Post by: crazy canuck on September 10, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 09:03:16 AM
Earlier this year I bought me some Space:1889 and HârnMaster. Didn't play them back in the day but whatever.

Harn, the best system that nobody played.
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Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2012, 02:38:01 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 10, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 09:03:16 AM
Earlier this year I bought me some Space:1889 and HârnMaster. Didn't play them back in the day but whatever.

Harn, the best system that nobody played.

Yeah.  That one had a really neat system, but god you are going to need the whole table covered in charts.
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Post by: crazy canuck on September 11, 2012, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2012, 02:38:01 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 10, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 09:03:16 AM
Earlier this year I bought me some Space:1889 and HârnMaster. Didn't play them back in the day but whatever.

Harn, the best system that nobody played.

Yeah.  That one had a really neat system, but god you are going to need the whole table covered in charts.

Naw, I think you are confusing that with Rolemaster.

Harn had a very straight forward system.  It was the world that was detailed.
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Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2012, 01:17:26 PM
Maybe I am.
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Post by: The Brain on September 14, 2012, 12:55:01 PM
Played some Call of Cthulhu for the first time in years. :)
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Post by: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:04:35 PM
I cast Necro thread!

Anyways, I got the 3145 book for Battletech, and damn, the munchkin factions get hammered. Davion and Steiner fanboys won't like it.

I laughed.
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Post by: Valmy on August 06, 2013, 04:14:07 PM
Thinking about picking up the Numenera book later this month...but really I should be getting a Thomas the Tank Engine RPG if it is something I actually want to play  :lol:
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Post by: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:15:54 PM
Thomas has a +5 coal shovel
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Post by: Barrister on August 06, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 06, 2013, 04:14:07 PM
Thinking about picking up the Numenera book later this month...but really I should be getting a Thomas the Tank Engine RPG if it is something I actually want to play  :lol:

Hang in there... some day our boys will be old enough to play RPGs...
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Post by: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
Thanks to the pending release of Werewolf : The Apocalypse, 20th Anniversary Edition, some friends and I have been playing in a consistent, bi-weekly campaign for the last several months.  Lots of fun to be had within that environment.
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Post by: katmai on August 06, 2013, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
Thanks to the pending release of Werewolf : The Apocalypse, 20th Anniversary Edition, some friends and I have been playing in a consistent, bi-weekly campaign for the last several months.  Lots of fun to be had within that environment.

I now feel old.
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Post by: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Whoa,goths! Beat them up!
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Post by: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2013, 04:35:04 PM
You guys know they published a 5th edition of the Traveller rules, right?  It's about the size of a law school text book.
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Post by: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 06, 2013, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
Thanks to the pending release of Werewolf : The Apocalypse, 20th Anniversary Edition, some friends and I have been playing in a consistent, bi-weekly campaign for the last several months.  Lots of fun to be had within that environment.

I now feel old.

:lol:
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Post by: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:36:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Whoa,goths! Beat them up!

Vampire has really not aged well.  I like the fiction, but loathe the idea of actually playing it.
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Post by: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2013, 04:35:04 PM
You guys know they published a 5th edition of the Traveller rules, right?  It's about the size of a law school text book.

Yes.
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Post by: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:36:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 06, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Whoa,goths! Beat them up!

Vampire has really not aged well.  I like the fiction, but loathe the idea of actually playing it.

I still giggle at the art with the vampire chick with the strap on.
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Post by: Habbaku on August 06, 2013, 04:47:08 PM
Goddamn you, Leif Jones.
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Post by: Barrister on August 06, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2013, 04:35:04 PM
You guys know they published a 5th edition of the Traveller rules, right?  It's about the size of a law school text book.

I did not know that. :mad:

*quick google*

IS it for sale, or only available via the kickstarter?
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Post by: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/188343

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Post by: crazy canuck on August 12, 2013, 01:40:53 PM
One day when I retire I will purchase Traveller 10 and the 120 volumes of rule books and supplements for Rolemaster.  Then I will unhook the internet so people will be motivated to play them with me.
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Post by: Jacob on August 12, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 12, 2013, 01:40:53 PM
One day when I retire I will purchase Traveller 10 and the 120 volumes of rule books and supplements for Rolemaster.  Then I will unhook the internet so people will be motivated to play them with me.

It'll be interesting when the first cohorts of rpg players retire and some of the take up their old hobby; I wonder how it will change the industy (if it does).
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Post by: Neil on August 12, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
I'm playing a Pathfinder game with some friends.  It's fun.
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Post by: PDH on August 12, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
It is Summer, so every few weekends I go to my friend Scott's place (about 3 hours away) and do some RPGing.  He is the one who ran the epic 20-year campaign I spoke of a while back.

We play GURPS, and he has recruited a whole new generation (helped in part by his teenage son) of players.  It is still a blast at 47.