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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Duque de Bragança on August 23, 2012, 04:52:49 AM

Title: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Duque de Bragança on August 23, 2012, 04:52:49 AM
Yep, 73 years to this day. It allowed Hitler to avoid a REAL two-front war unlike say, Poland.
You may know it under the name of German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, German-Soviet Treaty of Nonaggression, Hitler-Stalin Pact, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. An infamous mention goes as well to the secret protocal with the fifth partition of Poland.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 23, 2012, 05:03:05 AM
Germany was at war with Poland and France at the same time, so it was technically a two front war. :nerd:
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Syt on August 23, 2012, 05:18:40 AM
I have it on good authority from the Paradox forums that the USSR didn't invade Poland but rather took possession of an abandoned piece of land after Poland was annihilated.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 23, 2012, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 23, 2012, 05:18:40 AM
I have it on good authority from the Paradox forums that the USSR didn't invade Poland but rather took possession of an abandoned piece of land after Poland was annihilated.

Sometimes I miss that place.  Sometimes.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Duque de Bragança on August 23, 2012, 06:08:28 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 23, 2012, 05:18:40 AM
I have it on good authority from the Paradox forums that the USSR didn't invade Poland but rather took possession of an abandoned piece of land after Poland was annihilated.

Well, had Smigly-Rydz issued a formal declaration of war after the Red Army attacked, some would probably still see it as a Polish agression.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 23, 2012, 06:57:03 AM
EUOT is a stronghold of jackassery and Russian apologism.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Valmy on August 23, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
The day the Communist Party of the United States lost all its support among American pinko-leftists.  RIP guys you had a good run there.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: derspiess on August 23, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
The day the Communist Party of the United States lost all its support among American pinko-leftists.  RIP guys you had a good run there.

They scored a few good wins after that-- like in espionage.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: dps on August 23, 2012, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 23, 2012, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 23, 2012, 05:18:40 AM
I have it on good authority from the Paradox forums that the USSR didn't invade Poland but rather took possession of an abandoned piece of land after Poland was annihilated.

Sometimes I miss that place.  Sometimes.

I never got banned there, though I pretty much quit going to their OT forum after the migration to Languish--I still went to the game forums until I quit buying their games.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 23, 2012, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
The day the Communist Party of the United States lost all its support among American pinko-leftists.  RIP guys you had a good run there.

That was a lot earlier than that, my friend.  Namely, somewhere around the US declaration of war in 1916 and Versailles.  Even lefties bailed on their anti-war sentiment.

Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 23, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 23, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
They scored a few good wins after that-- like in espionage.

And Wallace as FDR's veep.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 23, 2012, 01:25:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 23, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 23, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
They scored a few good wins after that-- like in espionage.

And Wallace as FDR's veep.
Yes. Closet commie. He was probably the least effective though, compared to all the scientists, FBI types, and counter intelligence operators who they turned.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Valmy on August 23, 2012, 04:36:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 23, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
They scored a few good wins after that-- like in espionage.

In the sense that most of its members were federal agents there to spy on it? :P

Even the Rosenbergs were former members of the CPUSA I believe.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Razgovory on August 23, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
I don't what you use as an image host, but it's not working for you.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: DGuller on August 23, 2012, 09:48:21 PM
Seems to be working fine on my end.  Not sure what that red X is supposed to signify, though.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Razgovory on August 23, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
I still get no picture at all.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 23, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
Fine.  Fuck all your browsers.  Deleted.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Maximus on August 23, 2012, 11:41:09 PM
What kind of browser does your typewriter use anyway?
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Syt on August 23, 2012, 11:42:45 PM
I'm pretty sure it uses a land line.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Capetan Mihali on August 24, 2012, 01:32:03 AM
Stalin was a baddy.  The Soviets were baddies.  Boo hoo.   Not sure what the greater point of this thread is.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Syt on August 24, 2012, 01:53:18 AM
I want the posable Stalin action figure:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogdebrinquedo.com.br%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F06%2FJoseph-Stalin-Action-Figure-06.jpg&hash=48b7300a1aa55693e7b80cf49a62e5abfcd9af26)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gijoecanada.com%2Fimages%2Fkt_joseph%2520stalin_kt-8001_poster.jpg&hash=31555e84dbcc2d11082b9f475d4c412a43feafdf)
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 24, 2012, 05:45:24 AM
That is awesome.  I wish I had a desk at work to put that on.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 24, 2012, 05:47:26 AM
What is that white uniform?  Dress uniform for some branch of the military, or Stalin's special waiter outfit?
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 24, 2012, 05:51:07 AM
That's his summer tunic, and only until Labor Day.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: DGuller on August 24, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 24, 2012, 01:32:03 AM
Stalin was a baddy.  The Soviets were baddies.  Boo hoo.   Not sure what the greater point of this thread is.
Soviets were not the baddies.  There is plenty of evidence that those were not legitimate rapes.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Martim Silva on August 24, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 23, 2012, 04:52:49 AM
Yep, 73 years to this day. It allowed Hitler to avoid a REAL two-front war unlike say, Poland.
You may know it under the name of German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, German-Soviet Treaty of Nonaggression, Hitler-Stalin Pact, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. An infamous mention goes as well to the secret protocal with the fifth partition of Poland.

And, until this day, the French whine about those nasty soviets who refused to immediately enter the war so that THEY could take on the brunt of the casualties of facing the Germans, while the allies could take it easy and advance when both sides are exhausted.

Boo-fucking-hoo. Two can play at that game, and the Union was more successful at it than France (who wasn't supposed to lose the war so quickly). Cry me a river.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2012, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on August 24, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
And, until this day, the French whine about those nasty soviets who refused to immediately enter the war so that THEY could take on the brunt of the casualties of facing the Germans, while the allies could take it easy and advance when both sides are exhausted.

Boo-fucking-hoo. Two can play at that game, and the Union was more successful at it than France (who wasn't supposed to lose the war so quickly). Cry me a river.

Martim embrace Stalinist propaganda?  Shocking.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Razgovory on August 24, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
The Soviet Union lost a lot more people then France did in the war.  It would seem to me M-R pact was a disaster for the Soviet Union as it weakened it's natural allies (France, and Britain), and immensely strengthened it's dire enemy (Germany).  The Soviet Union payed a pretty steep price for such a poor decision.  The wounds it sustained in WWII likely factored into the collapse of the Soviet Union forty years later.  France is still around.  The Soviet Union is not.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Razgovory on August 24, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2012, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on August 24, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
And, until this day, the French whine about those nasty soviets who refused to immediately enter the war so that THEY could take on the brunt of the casualties of facing the Germans, while the allies could take it easy and advance when both sides are exhausted.

Boo-fucking-hoo. Two can play at that game, and the Union was more successful at it than France (who wasn't supposed to lose the war so quickly). Cry me a river.

Martim embrace Stalinist propaganda?  Shocking.

I imagine he'll bail again when every dog piles his dopey ass.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 24, 2012, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on August 24, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
And, until this day, the French whine about those nasty soviets who refused to immediately enter the war so that THEY could take on the brunt of the casualties of facing the Germans, while the allies could take it easy and advance when both sides are exhausted.

I don't think I've heard a Frenchman boy or girl whine this particular whine ever.  Not a single time.

And this is from a guy who thinks the French are nonstop whiners.
Title: Re: Happy Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact Day!
Post by: grumbler on August 24, 2012, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 24, 2012, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on August 24, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
And, until this day, the French whine about those nasty soviets who refused to immediately enter the war so that THEY could take on the brunt of the casualties of facing the Germans, while the allies could take it easy and advance when both sides are exhausted.

I don't think I've heard a Frenchman boy or girl whine this particular whine ever.  Not a single time.

And this is from a guy who thinks the French are nonstop whiners.

This is Martim. He only knows the French Ambassadors.