Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
Hmm... that analogy is a bit Martyesque, but you know what I mean.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12340308-police-attorney-couple-plants-drugs-on-pta-leader-in-dispute-over-their-son?lite
QuotePolice: Attorney couple plants drugs on PTA leader in dispute over their son
By Louis Casiano, msnbc.com
A California couple unhappy with the PTA president at their son's elementary school took an unusual approach to rectify their problem, police say.
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Kent and Jill Easter, both 38 and attorneys, were arrested Tuesday in Irvine after being accused of planting drugs in the car of Plaza Vista School PTA president Kelli Peters because they believed she was not properly supervising their son, the Los Angeles Times reported.
Both are charged with one felony count of conspiracy to procure false arrest and charging, false imprisonment, and conspiracy to report a false crime.
Irvine police said Kent Easter drove to Peters' home in February and planted a bag of marijuana, along with a pipe and prescription pills in the backseat of her unlocked car.
He then called police under a false name a little while later and said that the woman had been driving erratically near their son's school and claimed to see her put the drugs in the car's backseat.
Police arrived at the school and saw the drugs in plain view inside the car, and then contacted Peters, who was inside. After consenting to a search of her car, she said the drugs weren't hers and denied knowing where they came from.
After detaining her for two hours, police determined she was in a classroom at the time the call was made to police.
Peters then consented to a search of her home.
Investigators saw nothing in the home to support drug use or possession, so they began investigating whether the drugs had been planted.
After further investigation, police said, they determined that Easter made the call from a hotel near where he worked and was recorded on the hotel video surveillance system.
They say Easter was in constant contact with his wife during the incident.
The incident goes back to 2010 when Easter filed a civil complaint with the Orange County Superior Court alleging that his son, who was in first grade at the time, was in an after-school tennis program when Peters locked him out of the school for 19 minutes, the Times reported.
The newspaper reported that when Jill Easter asked why Peters locked the child out, Peters said that he took too long to line up with the other children and it was too hard to wait for him.
The paper reported that a tennis instructor found the child crying and trying to open the door to the building.
Jill Easter then filed a restraining order against Peters alleging that she was harassing Easter's son and had threatened her, the Times reported. The civil case was dismissed and the request for the restraining order was denied.
Kent Easter is a member of the state bar association and Jill Easter was admitted in 1998, but her license has expired.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Hmm... that analogy is a bit Martyesque, but you know what I mean.
:lol: I see the repeated beatings have finally begun to sink in.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
Given how successfully it went, I'd say it's more like a Hind anyway. ;)
QuoteKent and Jill Easter, both 38 and attorneys, were arrested Tuesday in Irvine after being accused of planting drugs in the car of Plaza Vista School PTA president Kelli Peters because they believed she was not properly supervising their son, the Los Angeles Times reported.
What a fisaco. And they're both attorneys! :huh: So I guess, besides the prison term they'll serve, or should serve, they can kiss their attorney licenses good bye no matter if they serve time in prison or not. And there will be no one to "gunship" over their kid while they're in jail!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
and your qualified to judge them.
Cool, so two new job openings.
Quote from: KRonn on June 21, 2012, 09:16:36 PM
And they're both attorneys!
Yeah, that's surprising since attorneys are typically paragons of morality. :)
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 21, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
Given how successfully it went, I'd say it's more like a Hind anyway. ;)
Heh. What's wrong with the Hind?
Quote from: Iormlund on June 22, 2012, 07:42:16 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 21, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
Given how successfully it went, I'd say it's more like a Hind anyway. ;)
Heh. What's wrong with the Hind?
It was a hind that finally crushed most of the Wolverines. :(
I've never seen that one.
It has hinds and wolverines but I never seen it? What's the catch?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 22, 2012, 08:57:11 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 22, 2012, 07:42:16 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 21, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
Given how successfully it went, I'd say it's more like a Hind anyway. ;)
Heh. What's wrong with the Hind?
It was a hind that finally crushed most of the Wolverines. :(
They were Hollywood mock-ups...while probably supposed to be Hinds, really didn't look like Hinds at all.
Edit: Evidence!
Red Dawn helo:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2223%2F2069287453_15bee76181.jpg&hash=d1fd6c4eb848d6d64a9f49bde203fe373803820e)
Hind:
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Yes, I've built the models. BUt it was still a hind.
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 22, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 22, 2012, 08:57:11 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 22, 2012, 07:42:16 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 21, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Fucking 'tards, being a helicopter parent is one thing, but this is so over the top it's more like being an Apache gunship.
Given how successfully it went, I'd say it's more like a Hind anyway. ;)
Heh. What's wrong with the Hind?
It was a hind that finally crushed most of the Wolverines. :(
They were Hollywood mock-ups...while probably supposed to be Hinds, really didn't look like Hinds at all.
Edit: Evidence!
Red Dawn helo:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2223%2F2069287453_15bee76181.jpg&hash=d1fd6c4eb848d6d64a9f49bde203fe373803820e)
Hind:
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Looks similar to a Hind-A, before they redesigned the cockpit.
The problem with Hinds, iirc, was that they were supposed to do too much, and as a result were neither a good troop carrier nor an especially effective gunship, and rather bad indeed at anti-tank operations and awful in the (entirely fictional, but I'm pretty sure I saw serious people write about it) helicopter air superiority role. Still, it was still probably the second best in the gunship role in the world, and ultimately their downfall was sophisticated MANPADS handed out like candy by bad U.S. governments to overseas moral abominations.
Maybe I'm making a lot of this up. Don't care. I mean, it's technically an aircraft, and thus in my ambit, but I'm no longer as excited about helicopters as I was in my youth. Can it lay waste a city? Then why did they bother to put it in the sky?
Helicopters are better suited for close support, pacification and asymmetrical mobility.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 05:40:28 AM
Cool, so two new job openings.
For lawyers, not people with law degrees.
I CAN GET LICENSED WHENEVER I WANT. Provided "whenever I want" means "when the state I live in offers an exam, and providing I pass a C+F screening, which, if I don't, I will sue my school and get all my monies back, plus interest, plus three years of lost earnings waiting tables, plus damages for intentional infliction of emotional distress."
Pass the bar and hang out your own shingle, man. Start with wills and other basic procedural paperwork bullshit, work up to collections, move on to traffic and DWIs, go to child support and divorces. Bang unhappily married chicks. Work for yourself.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
Helicopters are better suited for close support, pacification and asymmetrical mobility.
I'm not imagining that, though, right? I swear there were people in the 80s talking about "fighter helicopters," referring in part to the Hokum, and as a possible role for the Apache, arming them with AAMs, or air-deployable versions of Stingers and SA-whatevers.
Quote from: Iormlund on June 22, 2012, 07:42:16 AM
Heh. What's wrong with the Hind?
Russian military maintenance.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
Pass the bar and hang out your own shingle, man. Start with wills and other basic procedural paperwork bullshit, work up to collections, move on to traffic and DWIs, go to child support and divorces. Bang unhappily married chicks. Work for yourself.
Easier said than done. Taking into account the fact I don't have any prospective clients, and have no idea how to get clients, or really how to do very much aside from middling criminal representation, and factoring in malpractice insurance and office space*, well, I make more money now. Substantially.
*I forget if SC has a bona fide office rule, but it's pretty declasse to not have one anyway--even so, that rule is a shit in the face of struggling law grads.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
Helicopters are better suited for close support, pacification and asymmetrical mobility.
I'm not imagining that, though, right? I swear there were people in the 80s talking about "fighter helicopters," referring in part to the Hokum, and as a possible role for the Apache, arming them with AAMs, or air-deployable versions of Stingers and SA-whatevers.
No, you're right, but only to the extent as a modicum of defensive capability against other helicopters that would be prowling the FEBA. A secondary capability, not a primary one. Killing tanks, and then if necessary, killing other choppers killing tanks.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
Taking into account the fact I don't have any prospective clients, and have no idea how to get clients,
Phone book. Business cards. Hanging out at the court house. Ready to roll on Pookie's bail review 10 minutes after meeting his mother.
Solicitation.Damn, son. Grow some fucking balls. Get out there, and eat what you kill. Fuck.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Phone book. Business cards. Hanging out at the court house. Ready to roll on Pookie's bail review 10 minutes after meeting his mother. Solicitation.
Damn, son. Grow some fucking balls. Get out there, and eat what you kill. Fuck.
Bolded for emphasis. In less restricted states, paralegals hang out there and bilk the masses on help filling out simple forms. You wouldn't have to stick to simple forms. Where's your entrepeneurial spirit, dude? :P
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 22, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Phone book. Business cards. Hanging out at the court house. Ready to roll on Pookie's bail review 10 minutes after meeting his mother. Solicitation.
Damn, son. Grow some fucking balls. Get out there, and eat what you kill. Fuck.
Bolded for emphasis. In less restricted states, paralegals hang out there and bilk the masses on help filling out simple forms. You wouldn't have to stick to simple forms. Where's your entrepeneurial spirit, dude? :P
No shit. Kids these days don't know the meaning of the word "hustle". ZOMG I NEED AN OFFICE FIRST Fuck that. Your briefcase is your office. Make house calls in the 'hood. You are:
The Honda Lawyer.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 22, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Phone book. Business cards. Hanging out at the court house. Ready to roll on Pookie's bail review 10 minutes after meeting his mother. Solicitation.
Damn, son. Grow some fucking balls. Get out there, and eat what you kill. Fuck.
Bolded for emphasis. In less restricted states, paralegals hang out there and bilk the masses on help filling out simple forms. You wouldn't have to stick to simple forms. Where's your entrepeneurial spirit, dude? :P
No shit. Kids these days don't know the meaning of the word "hustle". ZOMG I NEED AN OFFICE FIRST Fuck that. Your briefcase is your office. Make house calls in the 'hood. You are: The Honda Lawyer.
It's the sense of entitlement and the "everyone's a winner" mentality taught in schools nowadays.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 09:55:38 PM
I CAN GET LICENSED WHENEVER I WANT. Provided "whenever I want" means "when the state I live in offers an exam, and providing I pass a C+F screening, which, if I don't, I will sue my school and get all my monies back, plus interest, plus three years of lost earnings waiting tables, plus damages for intentional infliction of emotional distress."
Wouldn't you lose said lawsuit?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 22, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Phone book. Business cards. Hanging out at the court house. Ready to roll on Pookie's bail review 10 minutes after meeting his mother. Solicitation.
Damn, son. Grow some fucking balls. Get out there, and eat what you kill. Fuck.
Bolded for emphasis. In less restricted states, paralegals hang out there and bilk the masses on help filling out simple forms. You wouldn't have to stick to simple forms. Where's your entrepeneurial spirit, dude? :P
No shit. Kids these days don't know the meaning of the word "hustle". ZOMG I NEED AN OFFICE FIRST Fuck that. Your briefcase is your office. Make house calls in the 'hood. You are: The Honda Lawyer.
I know the meaning of the words "poor," "starving," and "malpractice."
However, one of us does not know the meaning of the words "bona fide office" or how, in some jurisdictions, this is in fact a requirement to practice.
Also, if I go out tomorrow and "hustle" it won't say that on the arrest report, it'll say "barratry."
Also also, I know it's difficult to fix that "IF = Ideologue, THEN = unemployed" code, but I do in fact already have a 50 hour a week job that pays pretty well.
Quote from: Neil on June 22, 2012, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 09:55:38 PM
I CAN GET LICENSED WHENEVER I WANT. Provided "whenever I want" means "when the state I live in offers an exam, and providing I pass a C+F screening, which, if I don't, I will sue my school and get all my monies back, plus interest, plus three years of lost earnings waiting tables, plus damages for intentional infliction of emotional distress."
Wouldn't you lose said lawsuit?
Well, I doubt I'd get all my CoAs and damages. But I think I could make a good case for negligent misrepresentation in the case that I failed a C+F screening for reasons which were known to the law school I gave $70k.
On the other hand, I do have a job doing a job only a JD is permitted to do, but which requires no licensure, and which pays more than most one-year-out lawyers/all lawyers actually make, at least on an hourly basis. So actual damages might be hard to prove, you're right.
QuoteStill, it was still probably the second best in the gunship role in the world, and ultimately their downfall was sophisticated MANPADS handed out like candy by bad U.S. governments to overseas moral abominations
:blurgh:
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Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 10:35:21 PM
I know the meaning of the words "poor," "starving," and "malpractice."
However, one of us does not know the meaning of the words "bona fide office" or how, in some jurisdictions, this is in fact a requirement to practice.
Also, if I go out tomorrow and "hustle" it won't say that on the arrest report, it'll say "barratry."
Also also, I know it's difficult to fix that "IF = Ideologue, THEN = unemployed" code, but I do in fact already have a 50 hour a week job that pays pretty well.
In "some" jurisdictions. Lemme give you a quick and dirty answer for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_examination#Multistate_Bar_Examination_.28MBE.29
What in the world does that have to do with the bona fide office rule?
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
What in the world does that have to do with the bona fide office rule?
That you could waive into a jurisdiction that doesn't have it.OK, I seriously seem to have a problem with hitting "post" before stopping to actually think tonight. :blush:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 22, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Phone book. Business cards. Hanging out at the court house. Ready to roll on Pookie's bail review 10 minutes after meeting his mother. Solicitation.
Damn, son. Grow some fucking balls. Get out there, and eat what you kill. Fuck.
Bolded for emphasis. In less restricted states, paralegals hang out there and bilk the masses on help filling out simple forms. You wouldn't have to stick to simple forms. Where's your entrepeneurial spirit, dude? :P
No shit. Kids these days don't know the meaning of the word "hustle". ZOMG I NEED AN OFFICE FIRST Fuck that. Your briefcase is your office. Make house calls in the 'hood. You are: The Honda Lawyer.
I'm not going to tell Ideo what to do, but I have known some really good lawyers who essentially work out of their car and have no office. Smartphone and portable printer, will travel.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2012, 09:45:37 PM
The problem with Hinds, iirc, was that they were supposed to do too much, and as a result were neither a good troop carrier nor an especially effective gunship, and rather bad indeed at anti-tank operations and awful in the (entirely fictional, but I'm pretty sure I saw serious people write about it) helicopter air superiority role. Still, it was still probably the second best in the gunship role in the world, and ultimately their downfall was sophisticated MANPADS handed out like candy by bad U.S. governments to overseas moral abominations.
Maybe I'm making a lot of this up. Don't care. I mean, it's technically an aircraft, and thus in my ambit, but I'm no longer as excited about helicopters as I was in my youth. Can it lay waste a city? Then why did they bother to put it in the sky?
It was a fairly good support gunship, it just didn't fill the same role as dedicated anti-tank helos. Performance problems when carrying troops would probably have been much less pronounced in other theaters. Afghanistan is just too fucking high.
Like Cleopatra, Joan of Arc or Aphrodite?
Quote from: The Brain on June 23, 2012, 05:30:15 AM
Like Cleopatra, Joan of Arc or Aphrodite?
I think I missed something. :unsure:
Lyrics to a song. Think about it :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2012, 05:52:34 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 23, 2012, 05:30:15 AM
Like Cleopatra, Joan of Arc or Aphrodite?
I think I missed something. :unsure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ElORM9O-0U