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Title: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:00:09 PM
Another elderly person falls to the spandex banana hammock crowd.  WHEN WILL THE CYCLING MADNESS END

QuoteCyclist accused of vehicular manslaughter over pedestrian's death pleads not guilty
By msnbc.com staff and news services

SAN FRANCISCO -- A cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter in the death of an elderly pedestrian at a busy San Francisco intersection pleaded not guilty Wednesday.

Software developer Chris Bucchere, 36, is accused of recklessly speeding downhill through a red light and into an intersection crowded with pedestrians in the city's Castro District on March 29. He struck Sutchi Hui, 71, who was crossing the street with his wife and died of his injuries four days later.

The case, a rare felony prosecution of a bicycle rider for a fatal accident, comes amid a 71 percent increase in bike traffic in San Francisco in the past five years. It also marks the third instance in which a pedestrian has been killed by a cyclist during the past year in the Bay Area.

Evidence against Bucchere, who is free on $150,000 bond, includes several eyewitnesses and a surveillance video that have helped investigators put his estimated speed at up to 35 miles per hour.

A spokeswoman for District Attorney George Gascon's office, Stephanie Ong Stillman, said investigators had evidence Bucchere also ran a number of stop signs on his way downhill to the intersection where the crash occurred.

'Plowed through'
Authorities also suspect Bucchere was the author of an online blog post about the accident in which the cyclist recalled being "too committed" to stop at the traffic light before going through it.

"I couldn't see a line through the crowd and I couldn't stop, so I laid it down and just plowed through the crowded crosswalk in the least-populated place I could find," the post said, going on to describe a "river of blood on the asphalt" in the aftermath of the collision.

The post drew criticism from other people in the forum when Bucchere wrote that the moral of the story was that it was important for cyclists to wear helmets, local station KTVU Channel 2 News reported. The post was later removed.

The San Francisco Chronicle said Bucchere had been trying to set a speed record for a popular bike route through that neighborhood, and an electronic monitoring device on his bike provided investigators with some of their evidence against him.


In a written statement issued to reporters at the courthouse on Wednesday, Bucchere's lawyer, Julie Salamon, said her client "anticipates the day when he may express his deepest condolences to the Hui family for their tragic loss. But for now, while the case is ongoing, he will continue to cooperate with the authorities and to respond responsibly to the charges in court."

Bucchere, who left the courthouse without speaking to reporters following his 10-minute arraignment, is due back in court on July 27, when the judge will set a date for a preliminary hearing.

Stillman said Bucchere was the first bicyclist charged by Gascon with felony vehicular manslaughter, an offense for which prosecutors must show gross negligence and is punishable by up to six years in prison.

In March, cyclist Randolph Ang, 23, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter for running down a 67-year-old woman who died a month later. He was sentenced to three years' probation and 500 hours of community service.

In a more recent accident, a 92-year-old woman was struck and killed by a cyclist in a crosswalk near El Cerrito, east of San Francisco.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Tonitrus on June 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
When I ride, it annoys me to see other pompous cyclers blowing through stop signs.

But then I don't do the speedo/spandex thing either...more the cargo shorts/outlaw bicyclist kinda look.  :P
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Neil on June 21, 2012, 08:16:30 PM
Cyclists are a hazard to navigation.  Once we start to adopt more sensible city plans, we can finally eradicate them.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:17:08 PM
This reminds me: A couple of days ago near where I live a cyclist was killed when a truck plowed into him while he was blindly crossing an intersection on the highway access road. For some reason I immediately thought of Languish.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Ed Anger on June 21, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:17:08 PM
This reminds me: A couple of days ago near where I live a cyclist was killed when a truck plowed into him while he was blindly crossing an intersection on the highway access road. For some reason I immediately thought of Languish.

Send the bill for truck damage to the cyclist's family.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
But then I don't do the speedo/spandex thing either...more the cargo shorts/outlaw bicyclist kinda look.  :P

Is it tough to pedal with those chopper handlebars and banana seat?  :P

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhooniverse.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F06%2FJump-312x320.jpg&hash=6a1405c9e472776d14c9fd419a06846bc3e48c46)
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 21, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:17:08 PM
This reminds me: A couple of days ago near where I live a cyclist was killed when a truck plowed into him while he was blindly crossing an intersection on the highway access road. For some reason I immediately thought of Languish.

Send the bill for truck damage to the cyclist's family.

The only thing in the coffin was a rusty chain and a bent handlebar.  :(
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: garbon on June 21, 2012, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 21, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:17:08 PM
This reminds me: A couple of days ago near where I live a cyclist was killed when a truck plowed into him while he was blindly crossing an intersection on the highway access road. For some reason I immediately thought of Languish.

Send the bill for truck damage to the cyclist's family.

The only thing in the coffin was a rusty chain and a bent handlebar.  :(

What's that got to do with paying the bill?
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Tonitrus on June 21, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
But then I don't do the speedo/spandex thing either...more the cargo shorts/outlaw bicyclist kinda look.  :P

Is it tough to pedal with those chopper handlebars and banana seat?  :P

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhooniverse.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F06%2FJump-312x320.jpg&hash=6a1405c9e472776d14c9fd419a06846bc3e48c46)

No, but sometimes the ZZ Top beard gets caught in my chain.

Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: mongers on June 21, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 21, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
When I ride, it annoys me to see other pompous cyclers blowing through stop signs.

But then I don't do the speedo/spandex thing either...more the cargo shorts/outlaw bicyclist kinda look.  :P

This.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:44:39 PM
Oh bullshit, Mongers...we all know you wear spandex biker shorts so tight, we could see the wrinkles in your ball sack from 3 blocks away.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: mongers on June 21, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:44:39 PM
Oh bullshit, Mongers...we all know you wear spandex biker shorts so tight, we could see the wrinkles in your ball sack from 3 blocks away.

You're recurring fantasy about me, continues.   :hmm:

Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
OK, so I stepped in that one.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Ed Anger on June 21, 2012, 08:58:05 PM
I picture Mongers like this(the one on the left):

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Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
I fucking wear jean shorts and a t-shirt when I bike.  I am biking to burn calories, fuck the pricks in bike shorts and a pseudo-team tour de france shirt. 

I also stop at stop signs and yell at bike riders who don't.  I am a grumpy old man and I earned the right to dress down the idiots.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 21, 2012, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
The only thing in the coffin was a rusty chain and a bent handlebar.  :(

What's that got to do with paying the bill?

I don't know.  :(
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: mongers on June 21, 2012, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
I fucking wear jean shorts and a t-shirt when I bike.  I am biking to burn calories, fuck the pricks in bike shorts and a pseudo-team tour de france shirt. 

I also stop at stop signs and yell at bike riders who don't.  I am a grumpy old man and I earned the right to dress down the idiots.

:cheers:

Kindred spirits ? :unsure:

Though, I wear heavy jeans, year around, as given the state of the roads in England I prefer to keep as much of my skin as possible, if I should come off. 

Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: dps on June 21, 2012, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:00:09 PM

Software developer Chris Bucchere, 36, is accused of recklessly speeding downhill through a red light and into an intersection crowded with pedestrians in the city's Castro District on March 29. He struck Sutchi Hui, 71, who was crossing the street with his wife and died of his injuries four days later.

What a poorly written sentence.  It makes it sound like the biker struck the pedestrian with his with, not his bike.  Whose wife, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
Too hot to wear long jeans in the summer, some days it is up to 70 degrees!  Since I am riding a mountain bike now (no cash for my long awaited road bike) I am not too worried about staying on my bike, it works fine.

That is another plus.  I don't fucking ride a $5000 bike with a carbon fiber frame and $600 computer on it that keeps track of my route, mileage, calories burned and angle of inclination.  I am riding to fucking stay fit.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: dps on June 21, 2012, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:00:09 PM

Software developer Chris Bucchere, 36, is accused of recklessly speeding downhill through a red light and into an intersection crowded with pedestrians in the city's Castro District on March 29. He struck Sutchi Hui, 71, who was crossing the street with his wife and died of his injuries four days later.

What a poorly written sentence.  It makes it sound like the biker struck the pedestrian with his with, not his bike.  Whose wife, I'm not sure.

Wait, men with wives are in the Castro?
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 09:14:25 PM
Out in northern Baltimore County, in Hunt Valley and the general vicinity where my sister lives, the cycletards turn a 20 minute drive through horse country into a 35 minute Bataan Death March at 15 mph on the weekends, when all the urban hipster fuckwits from the city come out and show up with their bike-racked Priuses and Mini-Coopers, and totally choke out the single lane roads with their ultra lightweight bike frames, racing wheels, and bullshit multi-colored Italian racing team uniforms. 
Total fucking bullshit, and I hate them with a passion reserved only for the Chicoms, pedophiles and venture capitalists that think they create jobs.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
I hate packs of riders in their team jerseys.  Last weekend I passed a group of about 10 on my normal route, and they were so upset that an overweight guy on a mountain bike passed them that 2 took off and passed me then slowed down to get the congratulations of the rest of the pack.

I just kept riding and listening to Tool on my MP3 player.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 09:19:31 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
I hate packs of riders in their team jerseys.  Last weekend I passed a group of about 10 on my normal route, and they were so upset that an overweight guy on a mountain bike passed them that 2 took off and passed me then slowed down to get the congratulations of the rest of the pack.

I just kept riding and listening to Tool on my MP3 player.

You are the fucking man, man.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: mongers on June 21, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
Too hot to wear long jeans in the summer, some days it is up to 70 degrees!  Since I am riding a mountain bike now (no cash for my long awaited road bike) I am not too worried about staying on my bike, it works fine.

That is another plus.  I don't fucking ride a $5000 bike with a carbon fiber frame and $600 computer on it that keeps track of my route, mileage, calories burned and angle of inclination.  I am riding to fucking stay fit.

One of my shopping/commuting routes is down the valley to the next town, a round trip of under 20 miles along a nice flat relative quiet road.
Well part of this route is used by some cycling clubs for time trials etc, so quite often there's me on my 30 quid single speed or little folding bike and I'm over taken by these guys on road bikes with aerobars, aerodynamic helmets the full works.

What I find odd, is the vast majority of them get to the start point at the bottom of my town, by car.   :hmm:

Weirdly the other day one of them actually said hello as he passed me, that the first time one of the members of that 'tribe' has acknowledged me. :gasp:
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 09:19:31 PM

You are the fucking man, man.

Let me tell you, a lot more calories are burned trying to find a good pedal cadence to Aenima than most any other music.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: garbon on June 21, 2012, 09:33:08 PM
Jean shorts? :x
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: PDH on June 21, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
I am not in the Castro.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: garbon on June 21, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
You'd have to be wearing cutoffs.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 09:49:25 PM
With the pocket liners exposed?
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: 11B4V on June 21, 2012, 09:58:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 08:00:09 PM
Another elderly person falls to the spandex banana hammock crowd.  WHEN WILL THE CYCLING MADNESS END


Turns about fair play. The pedal monkies always fuck with the auto drivers. Fuck him, hopefully he does time in the big house.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: garbon on June 22, 2012, 06:32:22 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 09:49:25 PM
With the pocket liners exposed?

Who wears short shorts?
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 22, 2012, 06:47:05 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 22, 2012, 06:32:22 AM
Who wears short shorts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9AabR6_1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9AabR6_1w)
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 22, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
Bikers are annoying.  They generally ignore stop signs and read lights. 
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: The Brain on June 22, 2012, 07:22:30 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 22, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
Bikers are annoying.  They generally ignore stop signs and read lights.

:hmm:
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Grey Fox on June 22, 2012, 07:37:09 AM
Read is the new red is the new black.

Fuck all the cyclist*

Phrase I cannot say at work since everyone is a god damn cyclist fag.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: garbon on June 22, 2012, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 22, 2012, 06:47:05 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 22, 2012, 06:32:22 AM
Who wears short shorts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9AabR6_1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9AabR6_1w)

That's what I was thinking of. :hug:
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2012, 12:26:06 PM
And at the final gun, it's Jeep 1 Schwinn 0.

Then again, the only thing as dumb than driving drunk is bicycling at 2 in the morning on Route 1, when all the bars are closing.


QuoteA 44-year-old Snow Hill cyclist was killed early July 1 when his bicycle was struck as he rode in the merge lane onto Route 1 just north of Rehoboth Beach.

Police say a 2003 Jeep Wrangler, driven by Brian C. Meegan, 38, of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., struck the rear of Russell E. Henman's bicycle about 2:08 a.m. Police say Henman was thrown off the bike onto the hood of the Jeep and was carried about 400 feet until the Jeep struck a curb and stopped, throwing Henman onto the roadway.

Henman died at the scene.

Police said Meegan fled in the Jeep, pulling into a nearby parking lot. He got out and pulled Henman's bike from under the Jeep before responding troopers stopped him a short time later.

Police said Meegan was charged with one count each of vehicular homicide first degree, leaving the scene of a collision resulting in death, driving under the influence of alcohol, failure to report an accident resulting in injury or death, no proof of motor vehicle insurance, and inattentive driving. He was arraigned at Justice of the Peace Court 3 and jailed at Sussex Correctional Institution for lack of $27,700 cash bail.

Police said Meegan was not injured.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 02, 2012, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2012, 07:22:30 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 22, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
Bikers are annoying.  They generally ignore stop signs and read lights.

:hmm:
Cyclists too.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: mongers on July 02, 2012, 12:45:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2012, 12:26:06 PM
And at the final gun, it's Jeep 1 Schwinn 0.

Then again, the only thing as dumb than driving drunk is bicycling at 2 in the morning on Route 1, when all the bars are closing.


QuoteA 44-year-old Snow Hill cyclist was killed early July 1 when his bicycle was struck as he rode in the merge lane onto Route 1 just north of Rehoboth Beach.

Police say a 2003 Jeep Wrangler, driven by Brian C. Meegan, 38, of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., struck the rear of Russell E. Henman's bicycle about 2:08 a.m. Police say Henman was thrown off the bike onto the hood of the Jeep and was carried about 400 feet until the Jeep struck a curb and stopped, throwing Henman onto the roadway.

Henman died at the scene.

Police said Meegan fled in the Jeep, pulling into a nearby parking lot. He got out and pulled Henman's bike from under the Jeep before responding troopers stopped him a short time later.

Police said Meegan was charged with one count each of vehicular homicide first degree, leaving the scene of a collision resulting in death, driving under the influence of alcohol, failure to report an accident resulting in injury or death, no proof of motor vehicle insurance, and inattentive driving. He was arraigned at Justice of the Peace Court 3 and jailed at Sussex Correctional Institution for lack of $27,700 cash bail.

Police said Meegan was not injured.

Wouldn't that more accurately be, DWI 1 Victim 0 ?


By the sound of it the speed he was doing would have been enough to kill/seriously injure most other road uses.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2012, 12:50:05 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 02, 2012, 12:45:44 PM
Wouldn't that more accurately be, DWI 1 Victim 0 ?

Just can't give Jeep their props, huh?  :glare:
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Warspite on July 02, 2012, 02:39:35 PM
Fuck you all, I wear lycra shorts when I cycle on my expensive road bike. (It's not multi-coloured, though - I'm not a hipster twat.)
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Neil on July 02, 2012, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: Warspite on July 02, 2012, 02:39:35 PM
Fuck you all, I wear lycra shorts when I cycle on my expensive road bike. (It's not multi-coloured, though - I'm not a hipster twat.)
Lycra?  Bike?  You might not be a hipster twat,  but if you combine those elements, you have to be either or.
Title: Re: Speedos Kill: Cyclist charged with vehicular manslaughter
Post by: Razgovory on July 02, 2012, 03:09:01 PM
I can't wear lycra.  Court order.