:lmfao:
Shouldn't those morons have learned by now, from such luminaries as Bethsoft, CA, and Paradox that it's ok to release an unfinished game now? :bowler:
QuoteDuke Nukem developer goes bust
Work started on the title back in 1997
Veteran games developer 3D Realms has closed down because of a lack of funds.
Founded in 1987, the firm popularised the concept of shareware gaming and produced the seminal Duke Nukem and Wolfenstein 3D first-person shooters.
The company was working on a follow-up title, Duke Nukem Forever, which after being in development for 12 years has become the object of industry derision.
Publisher Take-Two says it will no longer fund development of the game but retains rights to the title.
"We can confirm that our relationship with 3D Realms for Duke Nukem Forever was a publishing arrangement, which did not include ongoing funds for development of the title," said Take-Two's Alan Lewis in a statement.
There has been no official comment from 3D Realms, other than a forum posting from the company's webmaster, Joe Siegler, who said: "It's not a marketing thing. It's true. I have nothing further to say at this time."
Other companies with links to 3D Realms or the Duke Nukem series were quick to distance themselves.
In a posting on Twitter, Apogee Software said it was "officially not affected by the situation at 3DRealms".
"Development of the Duke Nukem Trilogy is continuing as planned and further announcements about upcoming games will be made in the near future," the statement added.
Guardian newspaper games writer Steve Boxer said it was astonishing 3D Realms had not finished the game after more than a decade of development.
"It would have been nice to see another Duke Nukem game, but given they had more than 12 years it's just incompetence of the highest order.
"3D Realms made some great games in the past, but they got overtaken by the 21st Century.
"Sadly, Duke Nukem Forever was the most aptly named title in the history of games. Now, it's just Duke Nukem Never."
What I didn't know was that there's a hi-res version of DN3D:
http://hrp.duke4.net/
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhrp.duke4.net%2Fscreens%2Fhrp_screen04.jpg&hash=fc35adbc3a73aad5d8ba2ae52f3a0f4603da31a2)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhrp.duke4.net%2Fscreens%2Fhrp_screen02.jpg&hash=3016d727859412e0d0dcd610eab59ecb82130506)
It still looks like shit compared to a modern shooter.
Here's a list of things I liked about the original DN3D:
"Shake it, baby."
The End.
I'm not a big fan of the man vs. alien shooters, generally.
Burn in HELL, Caliga! :mad:
Fear not syt, Caliga has been warned for his Duke Nukem hate.
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 07:11:18 AM
Fear not syt, Caliga has been warned for his Duke Nukem hate.
It's not hate as much as it is love for historical shooters and stealth-shooters type games like Splinter Cell.
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 07:11:18 AM
Fear not syt, Caliga has been warned for his Duke Nukem hate.
:wub:
Quote from: Syt on May 07, 2009, 07:06:32 AM
Burn in HELL, Caliga! :mad:
that would be doom
I fear you people are redirecting your anger at 3D Realms toward me. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 07, 2009, 07:41:34 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 07, 2009, 07:06:32 AM
Burn in HELL, Caliga! :mad:
that would be doom
I know.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardcoreware.net%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2007%2F07%2Fthats-one-doomed-space-marine.jpg&hash=bbd40ddccf640100b7de41529decb60eaf414127)
That's one DOOMed space marine.Cal, how can you not love Duke? :(
I don't like his patronizing attitude toward women. :mad:
DN...Meh, important for its time but aged and irrelevant now. People stopped caring about DN Forever sometime back.
Elite 4 though... :(
Can't say I'm surprised, or that I even care. Duke was fun back in the 90s before I discovered playing Quake online.
I do find the story itself to be intensely amusing though, these guys have set the standard for EPIC FAIL in gaming.
Quote from: Caliga on May 07, 2009, 08:29:11 AM
I don't like his patronizing attitude toward women. :mad:
:D
It's was a pretty good grift while it lasted. I mean have a job for 12 years where you essentially do nothing.
Near complete list of things that have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced http://duke.a-13.net/ (http://duke.a-13.net/)
Quote from: Razgovory on May 07, 2009, 01:45:47 PM
It's was a pretty good grift while it lasted. I mean have a job for 12 years where you essentially do nothing.
Well (and I know chip's post came after yours) it sounds like they were doing *something*, just not anything that ended up being productive. Since I work in software development, I can sort of understand how something like this is possible and not just due to willful sloth.
Quote from: Caliga on May 07, 2009, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 07, 2009, 01:45:47 PM
It's was a pretty good grift while it lasted. I mean have a job for 12 years where you essentially do nothing.
Well (and I know chip's post came after yours) it sounds like they were doing *something*, just not anything that ended up being productive. Since I work in software development, I can sort of understand how something like this is possible and not just due to willful sloth.
Indeed. Only disorganization and idiocy can produce results like these.
It's not that uncommon. :lol:
I can especially understand it if they outsourced portions of the development to Indians. :blush: :ph34r:
I didn't like Duke Nukem, and I wasn't looking forward to this.
Quote from: Scipio on May 07, 2009, 09:00:02 PM
I didn't like Duke Nukem, and I wasn't looking forward to this.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
It's not that uncommon. :lol:
A dozen years in development? Doesn't happen often.
Quote from: Caliga on May 07, 2009, 07:05:26 AM
"Shake it, baby."
I liked Tanya's feminist take. :)
I get a headache just thinking about Wolfenstein.
Quote from: Neil on May 07, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
It's not that uncommon. :lol:
A dozen years in development? Doesn't happen often.
Closest I can think of is Battlecruiser 3000AD. And of course that was a disaster as well.
Team Fortress 2 was almost 10 years in development.
Quote from: chipwich on May 07, 2009, 03:40:16 PM
Near complete list of things that have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced http://duke.a-13.net/ (http://duke.a-13.net/)
:D
even the atom bomb didn't take that long! :D
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 08, 2009, 03:36:04 AM
even the atom bomb didn't take that long! :D
The US announced it would put a man on the moon, and did so, in less time than it took for 3DR to announce it would make DNF and then fail to do so.
Quote from: grumbler on May 08, 2009, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 08, 2009, 03:36:04 AM
even the atom bomb didn't take that long! :D
The US announced it would put a man on the moon, and did so, in less time than it took for 3DR to announce it would make DNF and then fail to do so.
roflol
Quote from: grumbler on May 08, 2009, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 08, 2009, 03:36:04 AM
even the atom bomb didn't take that long! :D
The US announced it would put a man on the moon, and did so, in less time than it took for 3DR to announce it would make DNF and then fail to do so.
3D realms had more powerful computers as well.
QuoteThings that have taken less time than Duke Nukem Forever's Development:
Pop Culture:
* The Beatles formed, released every single one of their albums and broke up. During this time they also toured the world several times.
* Led Zeppelin released 7 albums, 9 singles, and toured around the world, crossing international borders 27 times (not counting mainland Europe.)
Science & Technology:
* The Wright brothers designed and flew the first airplane.
* The theory of General Relativity.
* The United States' entire program to put a man on the moon, from Kennedy's challenge to the landing.
* The complete construction of many monumental buildings and engineering projects. To name a few-
o The Empire State Building (Jan 1930 - May 1931)
o The Channel Tunnel (Dec 1987 - May 1994)
o The Golden Gate Bridge (Jan 1933 - May 1937)
o The World Trade Center (Aug 1966 - April 1973)
Wars:
* The American War for Independence
* The United States Civil War
* World War I
* The United State's involvement in the Vietnam War.
* World War II and the entire Manhattan Project. Yes, even the complete development of the atomic bomb took less time.
:XD:
Just think, if they had gone one more year, they would have tied the publishing period of Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Considering that the entire GTA series was released during this timeframe also puts DNF kind of into perspective.
Well, I guess the "management" at 3D Realms can look forward to never working in the industry again. ^_^
The guy who's been the webmaster for 3dr for the past 16 years has set up a paypal account, so you can send him money now that he's out of work.
http://www.black-sabbath.com/news/index.html
They should release a book over this period. "Biggest clusterfuck in game development ever".
They must have had a lot of money for this to go on forever, most other game companies would have gone bust if they were unable to come up with money from games for 16 years.