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Title: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Sheilbh on May 06, 2009, 06:35:14 PM
QuoteAfghanistan's only pig quarantined in flu fear
Tue May 5, 2009 3:32pm EDT
By Golnar Motevalli

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's only known pig has been locked in a room, away from visitors to Kabul zoo where it normally grazes beside deer and goats, because people are worried it could infect them with the virus popularly known as swine flu.

The pig is a curiosity in Muslim Afghanistan, where pork and pig products are illegal because they are considered irreligious, and has been in quarantine since Sunday after visitors expressed alarm it could spread the new flu strain.


"For now the pig is under quarantine, we built it a room because of swine influenza," Aziz Gul Saqib, director of Kabul Zoo, told Reuters. "We've done this because people are worried about getting the flu."

Worldwide, more than 1,000 people have been infected with the virus, according to the World Health Organization, which also says 26 people have so far died from the strain. All but one of the deaths were in Mexico, the epicenter of the outbreak.

There are no pig farms in Afghanistan and no direct civilian flights between Kabul and Mexico.

"We understand that, but most people don't have enough knowledge. When they see the pig in the cage they get worried and think that they could get ill," Saqib said.

The pig was a gift to the zoo from China, which itself quarantined some 70 Mexicans, 26 Canadians and four Americans in the past week, but later released them.

Some visitors were not concerned about the fate of the pig and said locking it away was probably for the best.

"Influenza is quite contagious and if it passes between people and animals then there's no need for the pig to be here," zoo visitor Farzana said.

Shabby and rundown, Kabul Zoo is a far cry from zoos in the developed world, but has nevertheless come a long way since it suffered on the front line of Afghanistan's 1992-4 civil war.

Mujahideen fighters then ate the deer and rabbits and shot dead the zoo's sole elephant. Shells shattered the aquarium.

One fighter climbed into the lion enclosure but was immediately killed by Marjan, the zoo's most famous inhabitant. The man's brother returned the next day and lobbed a hand grenade at the lion leaving him toothless and blind.

The zoo now holds two lions who replaced Marjan who died of old age in 2002 as well as endangered local leopards. In all, it houses 42 species of birds and mammals and 36 types of fish and attracts up to 10,000 visitors on weekends.

(Reporting by Golnar Motevalli; Editing by Jon Hemming)
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 06, 2009, 06:37:25 PM
Silly moonworshippers.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 06, 2009, 06:38:33 PM
Tricks are for kids.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Phillip V on May 06, 2009, 06:47:13 PM
Poor pig. :(
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 06:55:11 PM
The pig is probably better off in quarantine.  I've read that at the Kabul zoo the people start throwing rocks at the animals if they're not moving enough to entertain them.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 06, 2009, 07:30:07 PM
Damn. I've already used up my facepalm picture for the evening. Pervert's right, though. Better that the pig be "quarantined" from potentially violent, ignorant tourists.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: FunkMonk on May 06, 2009, 07:31:22 PM
Swine will inherit the earth. This much is true.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Siege on May 06, 2009, 07:34:24 PM
Muslims are stupid. News at 11.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Sheilbh on May 06, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
I mainly found it funny :mellow:

Edit:  Especially the terrific segue into the Chinese response :lol:
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Neil on May 06, 2009, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2009, 07:34:24 PM
Muslims are stupid. News at 11.
Not as stupid as the Israelis calling it 'Mexican flu'.

Islam proves itself superior to Israel yet again.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
That picture of the lion that had a grenade lobbed at it was really, really sad.   :Embarrass:


Do you read Daily Dish, Sheilbh? 
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Siege on May 06, 2009, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 06, 2009, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2009, 07:34:24 PM
Muslims are stupid. News at 11.
Not as stupid as the Israelis calling it 'Mexican flu'.

Islam proves itself superior to Israel yet again.

It is a mexican flu.

You can't hide the facts behind political correctness.

Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Siege on May 06, 2009, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
That picture of the lion that had a grenade lobbed at it was really, really sad.   :Embarrass:

It attacked a man.
Even though muslims are culturally sub-humans, they are still biologically humans, and an animal that kill a human have to be put to sleep, using whatever method you prefer.

However, I agree that just wounding the lion was unnecessary cruelty.
Unnecesary cruelty is a no-go as well.

Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Neil on May 06, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2009, 08:23:35 PM
It is a mexican flu.

You can't hide the facts behind political correctness.
It's a swine flu.  You can't hide the facts behind your primitive, false faith.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Anyone that climbs in to a lion enclosure needs to be removed from the gene pool.  They should have fed the brother to lion too, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Anyone that climbs in to a lion enclosure needs to be removed from the gene pool.  They should have fed the brother to lion too, just to be safe.
Agreed.  The lion was just acting according to its nature, while the men were both acting like utter retards.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Tonitrus on May 06, 2009, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Anyone that climbs in to a lion enclosure needs to be removed from the gene pool.  They should have fed the brother to lion too, just to be safe.
Agreed.  The lion was just acting according to its nature, while the men were both acting like utter retards.

Exactly, according to their nature.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 06, 2009, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Anyone that climbs in to a lion enclosure needs to be removed from the gene pool.  They should have fed the brother to lion too, just to be safe.
Agreed.  The lion was just acting according to its nature, while the men were both acting like utter retards.

Exactly, according to their nature.
Category we are talking about is Men, not Pashtuns or Muslims.  The vast majority of Pashtun, let alone the vast majority of Muslims, let alone the vast majority of Men, don't jump into cages with lions. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Razgovory on May 06, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2009, 08:23:35 PM


It is a mexican flu.

You can't hide the facts behind political correctness.

It's not political correctness you dope!
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Tonitrus on May 06, 2009, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 06, 2009, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Anyone that climbs in to a lion enclosure needs to be removed from the gene pool.  They should have fed the brother to lion too, just to be safe.
Agreed.  The lion was just acting according to its nature, while the men were both acting like utter retards.

Exactly, according to their nature.
Category we are talking about is Men, not Pashtuns or Muslims.  The vast majority of Pashtun, let alone the vast majority of Muslims, let alone the vast majority of Men, don't jump into cages with lions.

I meant humans in general, but still, lion cage jumping is, by far, not the only retarded thing.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Siege on May 07, 2009, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 06, 2009, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Anyone that climbs in to a lion enclosure needs to be removed from the gene pool.  They should have fed the brother to lion too, just to be safe.
Agreed.  The lion was just acting according to its nature, while the men were both acting like utter retards.

Exactly, according to their nature.
Category we are talking about is Men, not Pashtuns or Muslims.  The vast majority of Pashtun, let alone the vast majority of Muslims, let alone the vast majority of Men, don't jump into cages with lions. 

He thought he was some sort of super-muslim-warrior, and that his moongod would protect him.
He probably even thought the lion was going to be afraid of him.



Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: The Brain on May 07, 2009, 01:49:45 PM
Savages.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: viper37 on May 07, 2009, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2009, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
That picture of the lion that had a grenade lobbed at it was really, really sad.   :Embarrass:

It attacked a man.
Even though muslims are culturally sub-humans, they are still biologically humans, and an animal that kill a human have to be put to sleep, using whatever method you prefer.

However, I agree that just wounding the lion was unnecessary cruelty.
Unnecesary cruelty is a no-go as well.
The guy went into his cage first, before being attacked.  You're saying that if someone invades your home and you kill him, we have to kill you too?
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: The Brain on May 07, 2009, 01:54:23 PM
The US went into Iraq and they had to kill the Iraqis.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Jacob on May 07, 2009, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 06, 2009, 07:39:00 PMEdit:  Especially the terrific segue into the Chinese response :lol:

Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Razgovory on May 07, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 06:55:11 PM
The pig is probably better off in quarantine.  I've read that at the Kabul zoo the people start throwing rocks at the animals if they're not moving enough to entertain them.

The pig is probably better off in afghanistan period.  In the West we'd just eat him.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Siege on May 07, 2009, 02:16:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 07, 2009, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2009, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 06, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
That picture of the lion that had a grenade lobbed at it was really, really sad.   :Embarrass:

It attacked a man.
Even though muslims are culturally sub-humans, they are still biologically humans, and an animal that kill a human have to be put to sleep, using whatever method you prefer.

However, I agree that just wounding the lion was unnecessary cruelty.
Unnecesary cruelty is a no-go as well.
The guy went into his cage first, before being attacked.  You're saying that if someone invades your home and you kill him, we have to kill you too?


Are you really comparing an ANIMAL to a human being?

If somebody attacks a human, then yeah, the right of self-defense.
But for attacking an animal, the worst you can accusse the guy is of damaging private property, and be charged accordingly.

When an animal kills a human, the animal is always guilty and have to be put to death. Period.


Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: The Brain on May 07, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 07, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 06, 2009, 06:55:11 PM
The pig is probably better off in quarantine.  I've read that at the Kabul zoo the people start throwing rocks at the animals if they're not moving enough to entertain them.

The pig is probably better off in afghanistan period.  In the West we'd just eat him.

No we wouldn't.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 07, 2009, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 07, 2009, 02:16:43 PM
But for attacking an animal, the worst you can accusse the guy is of damaging private property, and be charged accordingly.

Under Islam, that means he loses some body parts.  The lion was just carrying out the sentence, and disposing of the waste.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Sheilbh on May 07, 2009, 02:26:50 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 07, 2009, 01:52:50 PM
The guy went into his cage first, before being attacked. 
Yeah, I agree.  There was recently a woman in Berlin who jumped into a polar bear enclosure (during feeding time) and swam towards the bears.  She was attacked but I don't think that her foolishness means the bears should be put down.

MP:  Yep.  Mainly through a haze of envy that the global niche of 'gay, British Catholic' is already filled <_<
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 07, 2009, 02:42:20 PM
They had been killing the zoo animals for food.  I doubt they had been sharing any of it with the lion, it must have been starving.
Title: Re: Afghanistan Quarantines Pig
Post by: Queequeg on May 07, 2009, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 07, 2009, 02:26:50 PM

MP:  Yep.  Mainly through a haze of envy that the global niche of 'gay, British Catholic' is already filled <_<
:lol:
Was going to guess that.  Though to be fair, he's a British-American Gay Catholic.  You can be British-British.