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Quote from: Lettow77 on May 10, 2012, 05:02:54 AM
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Quote from: Lettow77 on May 10, 2012, 05:02:54 AM
Thinking on it, I wonder if my life has amounted to much, and what I'll end up as?
We're all much more interested in how you're going to end it. Squee. Mew.
DGuller! You got the pdf, right?
I got it cached!
Well, there isn't anything particularly humiliating in it. If you wanted to poke through something I thought better of posting after a brief night's sleep, by all means. It's just that it didn't seem seemly to post in such a way, is all. I assure you, anyone reading it should find it more boring and meandering than scandalous or embarrassing.
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 10, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
Well, there isn't anything particularly humiliating in it. If you wanted to poke through something I thought better of posting after a brief night's sleep, by all means. It's just that it didn't seem seemly to post in such a way, is all. I assure you, anyone reading it should find it more boring and meandering than scandalous or embarrassing.
TL;DR
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 10, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
Well, there isn't anything particularly humiliating in it. If you wanted to poke through something I thought better of posting after a brief night's sleep, by all means. It's just that it didn't seem seemly to post in such a way, is all. I assure you, anyone reading it should find it more boring and meandering than scandalous or embarrassing.
You should stand by what you write Lettow lad.
G.
When I skimmed it before I didn't think there was anything that was particularly wierd by Lettuce standards.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 10, 2012, 02:13:48 PM
When I skimmed it before I didn't think there was anything that was particularly wierd by Lettuce standards.
The fact that his sonnet project was tied to a suicide was worrisome.
Don't know if you're trolling or not, but you should go talk to someone if you actually feel that way, L. In the meantime, if nothing else, take heart in the fact that you're a funny and original writer.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on May 10, 2012, 05:35:50 PM
Don't know if you're trolling or not, but you should go talk to someone if you actually feel that way, L. In the meantime, if nothing else, take heart in the fact that you're a funny and original writer.
Yup, on both counts.
Forbidden...serif.....shame?
Lettow is attracted to letters now?
わかりません :(
WHAT HAPPEN
Quote from: Caliga on May 10, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
WHAT HAPPEN
Lettow's roommate finally assfucked him.
Mew.
Nothing interesting happened. Each day proceeds uneventfully into the next, and I have little responsibilities, obligations or commitments. I didn't mean to infer by the removal of the text that something interesting was being covered- it really was just a bunch of TL;DR that shouldn't have been posted. It lacked anything with which to interest the reader.
Also, to tyr- assuming a katakana word has the exact meaning as its english equivalent is a pitfall. And shame and embarrassment have the same kanji but different dangly bits afterwords. You are clearly diligent in your studies of the moon runes, though! がんばって！
えええ、久しぶりにこのところに行ったら、日本語が話せる人がふえってきた。面白いね。。。
そのあたらしいラングイシュ ひとはもっとおもしろいおもいですか。 だれですか
Really, this is what we've become?
Lettow should commit ritual bukkake upon himself.
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 11, 2012, 08:18:43 PM
そのあたらしいラングイシュ ひとはもっとおもしろいおもいですか。 だれですか
十年でラーキングをしていた人です。でもLettow77は日本語を勉強するひとになるとぜんぜんおもわなかった。思いどうり、きみは人種差別主義者の南のアメリカ人でした。もう大人になったようです。偉いね。
The use of inferior languages is frowned upon here.
If it's an English only board, then just put that in the rules. You are the god of this particular world, after all.
You think because I am a Japanophile I stopped being a horrible racist? It's an odd assumption to see people make, given that Japan is so horribly racist itself. Maybe I only signed on with the whole Japan thing because I had the Fuhrer's assurances they were the Aryans of the East.. :hmm:
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 11, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
You think because I am a Japanophile I stopped being a horrible racist? It's an odd assumption to see people make, given that Japan is so horribly racist itself.
Which makes your affinity for it all the more hilarious.
"Here, take this Nazi Party application and return it to us, Mr. Rosenfetus."
Quote from: Kolytsin on May 11, 2012, 08:45:35 PM
If it's an English only board, then just put that in the rules. You are the god of this particular world, after all.
I think it was in the rules. Nobody thought to rewrite the rules after the big board move.
I guess I should hasten to mention, since Languish is eager to believe the absurd about me, that I don't actually support the nazi party.
(Le Pen though.. :wub:)
Edit: I know what you mean though, CdM. I am looking forward to bowing and scraping and apologizing for being a white piggu. I can use the subordinate-superior relationship as my shield by being an apologetic, dutifully ashamed subordinate who readily admits the inferiority of the west. There's always room in your country for an obsequious immigrant that reinforces what you already want to believe about your own greatness.
(Besides, of all countries, they are happiest to see American immigrants. The language I grew up with and the country I am from are a sorry second best to find acceptance in Japan, if one can't have chosen Japanese and Japan itself.)
Visitors are more than welcome in Japan. Immigrants are not. Gaining access and acceptance in Japanese society is very, very difficult. Third-generation Koreans sometimes find it hard, let alone the Brazilians.
Quote from: Kolytsin on May 11, 2012, 08:45:35 PM
If it's an English only board, then just put that in the rules. You are the god of this particular world, after all.
But then that would deprive me of the opportunity to look down my nose at people who use non-civilized languages.
Make no mistake, I like the Japanese. Their hard work and gadgetry is much appreciated, and they're the only group outside of North America and Western Europe that I would consider civilized, but all non-English languages are utterly immoral and barbaric.
Quote from: Kolytsin on May 11, 2012, 09:53:53 PM
Visitors are more than welcome in Japan. Immigrants are not. Gaining access and acceptance in Japanese society is very, very difficult. Third-generation Koreans sometimes find it hard, let alone the Brazilians.
I know it. It is part of the appeal. I'll do my best- assimilation is impossible, but integration isn't, necessarily. I don't mind receiving unfavorable treatment, discrimination, etc. I won't make a fuss and i'll keep my head down while working to subsidize the care of Japan's massive aging population. I'll try to avoid becoming involved with a Japanese woman as well, due to how dim a view some Japanese might take of that.
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 12, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
I'll try to avoid becoming involved with a Japanese woman as well, due to how dim a view some Japanese might take of that.
Probably not the best idea to avoid the easiest way to permanent visa status and avoidance of legal trouble.
I thought about that too, but it'd be irresponsible to put my own convenience over the tide of Japanese opinion. Interracial marriage isn't something I should take lightly- my grandfather still lives, after all, and there is my father's memory to consider, to say nothing of what the people of the sacred isles themselves might think.
Still, I don't necessarily swear off the idea. Just that it can't be considered lightly.
What your own family thinks is your issue. However, if you are white, then an interracial marriage/dating isn't particularly looked down upon. Especially if you are in Tokyo/Osaka. You might run into a lot more curious stares out in the country, but the actual instances of expressed hostility are rare. The girl's family, however, may or may not care, depending largely on their social background.
Also, if you actually give a fuck about learning the reality of the society you supposedly idealize, I recommend that you read "An Introduction to Japanese Society" by Yoshio Sugimoto. Also, "Tokyo Vice" would help as well. Anime/Manga gives a very narrow and idealized representation.
Quote from: Kolytsin on May 12, 2012, 01:46:19 PM
Also, if you actually give a fuck about learning the reality of the society you supposedly idealize, I recommend that you read "An Introduction to Japanese Society" by Yoshio Sugimoto. Also, "Tokyo Vice" would help as well. Anime/Manga gives a very narrow and idealized representation.
Are you saying that it's unacceptable to Shoryuken people in the streets?
Quote from: Kolytsin on May 12, 2012, 01:46:19 PM
Also, if you actually give a fuck about learning the reality of the society you supposedly idealize, I recommend that you read "An Introduction to Japanese Society" by Yoshio Sugimoto. Also, "Tokyo Vice" would help as well. Anime/Manga gives a very narrow and idealized representation.
Actually, I think Lettow has everything he needs to survive in Japan with a copy of
Big Eyes, Small Mouth.
I'm not reading "Vice" anything. It'd be unfortunate to assume most of what I know comes from anime, but I can understand why that's the convenient go-to assumption for japanophiles.
( and even more unfortunate to assume I watch shonen drivel, neil..)
I'll be fine, and if I am not, it is of little consequence. I don't really want advice.
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 12, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
I'm not reading "Vice" anything. It'd be unfortunate to assume most of what I know comes from anime, but I can understand why that's the convenient go-to assumption for japanophiles.
( and even more unfortunate to assume I watch shonen drivel, neil..)
I'll be fine, and if I am not, it is of little consequence. I don't really want advice.
It's a natural assumption given your avatar, wouldn't you say?
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I suppose so, but then, that's a western creation without any Japanese input, as i'm sure you know.
It's not that I disavow liking anime, mind you- it's a fine form of entertainment.
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 12, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
I'm not reading "Vice" anything. It'd be unfortunate to assume most of what I know comes from anime, but I can understand why that's the convenient go-to assumption for japanophiles.
( and even more unfortunate to assume I watch shonen drivel, neil..)
I'll be fine, and if I am not, it is of little consequence. I don't really want advice.
Up to you, then. Sometimes it's better not to reinvent the wheel, though. Japan propagates many myths to itself and the outside world. The excesses of nihonjinron (Socially darwinist-esque ethno-nationalist theories that attempt to establish Japanese exceptionality) are one of the more disturbing examples.
Quote from: Kolytsin on May 12, 2012, 01:46:19 PM
Also, if you actually give a fuck about learning the reality of the society you supposedly idealize, I recommend that you read "An Introduction to Japanese Society" by Yoshio Sugimoto. Also, "Tokyo Vice" would help as well. Anime/Manga gives a very narrow and idealized representation.
Lettow care about the "realities" of any society? You must be new here.
The further away from Anime Japanese society is the more I would like it. Still, I wouldn't want to live there. Since I know very little about East Asia in general, I don't know if I'd even want to visit. I wouldn't know what to see.
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 12, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
I'll try to avoid becoming involved with a Japanese woman as well, due to how dim a view some Japanese might take of that.
And cause vaginas are icky, right?
The principal attraction in becoming involved with a woman is rather something like being able to come home to vegetables being cut on a chopping board and feeling that you are cared for, and have something to work for- the reassuring social contract of a kept home in exchange for the career to sustain it. Someone to share thoughts, plans and meaningless conversation with. A relationship has the potential to be the meaning sought in life, a self-sustaining thing that wraps the rest of life around it and provides a sense of purpose. Sexuality is a peripheral matter, and not in a position to greatly add or detract from the value of the above.
Unfortunately, the whole lot of it is nothing more than a dream- as said, it is something to be avoided.
You give Lettow stick but...he might survive here.
Sure, there are lots of stories of nerds who show up, find women aren't falling in their lap and they aren't living in anime land, get sad and go home.
But a lot of nerdy types love it too. I know one girl who is quite happy here in her weird little world of buying large amounts of fan made pornographic comics.
Lettow and your idea of what a relationship should be: Fat chance in the west but in Japan such a thing actually can happen. A lot more traditional marriages here. And hey, you've no interest in sex, you only need to do it the once to plant your seed and you're set to have a regular Japanese marriage.
And not too many Japanese take a dim view of a woman going out with a white guy. Especially a teacher.
QuoteVisitors are more than welcome in Japan. Immigrants are not. Gaining access and acceptance in Japanese society is very, very difficult. Third-generation Koreans sometimes find it hard, let alone the Brazilians.
Yeah, one messed up thing I hear about Japan: There is no dinstinction between Japanese citizenship and ethnicity in the census.
Which does mask how many immigrants there actually are, it isn't the totally homogenous country people believe.
Tyr, thanks for the encouragement! I really mean it. I bought my ticket to Tokyo today, and have been worried. If it doesn't work out in Japan, that's likely the end of the line for me. I wasn't born into optimism, but have been trying to un-learn the cynicism and negativity of a lifetime. I want to believe I can get by with a positive attitude, willingness to work, and humble expectations. I want to believe that things will work out in the strange land I think about so much but have never been to, which has so little desire for foreigners to settle there as I intend.
I'll do my best, but in the vacuum of loneliness the slightest external suggestions can have disproportionate influence. As such, the friendly words of someone already there mean an enormous deal to me. Thank you kindly.
I wish you good luck as well and offer my support, if you so desire it. But I urge you to consider the answer to this question before you arrive in the land of Wa: "What if Japanese society does not live up to my expectations but reveals itself to be a different, multi-faceted diamond altogether? Would I consider Western influences to be a stain on the "pure" Japanese society or could I accept them as an integral part of Japanese society today? Will I still attempt to integrate with and accept such a society or would I return to America in defeat?"
In my experience, those foreigners with the weakest connection to the society of their homelands often are the most satisfied residents of this country.