Anyone seen or tried this :
http://store.steampowered.com/app/47410/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/47410/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1)
Started it last night and it's quite amusing; nice learning / figuring out the game mechanisms.
It looks like the original Stronghold with lots of multiplayer
looks interesting. Where did you start mongers?
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2012, 09:54:17 AM
looks interesting. Where did you start mongers?
World 5 - (English) - England - Northumberland - Hethpool/or hethpool, village name army knife.
:)
I started playing this, but it seems like a stand alone version of one of those damn browser games.
Always willing to try out time wasters :)
Im next to you mongers and till I find the tab to change village name its 'Seenias village'.
Quote from: mongers on April 29, 2012, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2012, 09:54:17 AM
looks interesting. Where did you start mongers?
World 5 - (English) - England - Northumberland - Hethpool/or hethpool, village name army knife.
:)
cool, I am World 5 - England - Suffolk - Bury St. Edmunds, village is Tannin
Still trying to figure things out, but seems like it will be a fun distraction.
Just discoverd a good trick. If you dont like where you placed a building, just click on it, then click on the green arrows in the display box on the right of the screen and you can move it. Did that with my woodworker thing - I had placed it too far away from the resource collection point.
Quote from: Seen on April 29, 2012, 11:26:28 AM
Always willing to try out time wasters :)
Im next to you mongers and till I find the tab to change village name its 'Seenias village'.
Excellent, I'll be incontact tomorrow. :cool:
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2012, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: mongers on April 29, 2012, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2012, 09:54:17 AM
looks interesting. Where did you start mongers?
World 5 - (English) - England - Northumberland - Hethpool/or hethpool, village name army knife.
:)
cool, I am World 5 - England - Suffolk - Bury St. Edmunds, village is Tannin
Still trying to figure things out, but seems like it will be a fun distraction.
Yeah, nothing serious, much of the fun is working out all of the detail.
location noted.
On world 5, I'm in Leominster parish, Herefordshire county, in the West Midlands. I'm also parish sheriff. :)
On here, I'm 'goreen'
Sent both of you 'vassalage' requests. I can ship you some troops to help keep you safe (although, given the distance, they will take quite some time to arrive...) I would also be granting you bonus honor if you accept
Quote from: Arvoreen on April 29, 2012, 06:23:13 PM
On world 5, I'm in Leominster parish, Herefordshire county, in the West Midlands. I'm also parish sheriff. :)
On here, I'm 'goreen'
Sent both of you 'vassalage' requests. I can ship you some troops to help keep you safe (although, given the distance, they will take quite some time to arrive...) I would also be granting you bonus honor if you accept
Excellent, I'll accept the vassal status, enjoying how the game works.
I'll hold off on the offer of troops as I'd like to sink or swim largely by my own efforts. But will make sure I offer whatever help is asked for and support other newbies.
Cheers 'Goreen'
:cheers:
my Lord Goreen, I am your vassal.
But would it make sense to start again nearer to you?
The original Stronghold as in the old D&D game?
I sent 9 or 10 peasants and 9 or 10 archers to each of you...they will show up in the next day or 2 :D lol
awesome, thanks.
used to play this about a year ago. found it to be meh after a while
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 29, 2012, 09:06:24 PM
The original Stronghold as in the old D&D game?
From the screenshots, it looks more like the original Castles.
Quote from: Arvoreen on April 29, 2012, 09:58:49 PM
I sent 9 or 10 peasants and 9 or 10 archers to each of you...they will show up in the next day or 2 :D lol
Nobody seems to have arrived.
edit: nvm, I found the reinforce button to use your troops. Very cool that they dont count against my population. Big advantage there.
Yea...too bad it takes 24 hour+ to arrive to you...
And 48 hours to reach Mongers ....
But...if I send 'enough' troops, I can attack wolves, etc. from your village :)
Quote from: Arvoreen on May 01, 2012, 09:35:56 AM
Yea...too bad it takes 24 hour+ to arrive to you...
And 48 hours to reach Mongers ....
But...if I send 'enough' troops, I can attack wolves, etc. from your village :)
No worries, but I think I'm going to get curb stomped, as the blue faction seems to methodically taking over the whole region.
My peace ran out and was immediately attacked, though I survived !
The only sent 12 peasant, I'm guessing tomorrows assault will be rather larger.
Meanwhile my home defence force continues to grown, it now numbers 5 archers and 6 peasants; it was a bugger to get the resources to build the fletcher.
I built some platforms for those archers and they were able to easily defeat an AI raiding party of 30 peasants sent from a rogue encampment that took up residence within the parish - 240 honour to me!
By tonight I should be able to add on a stone outer wall.
It looks like I am within a red parish on the borderlands with purple. No active wars appear to be going on so I will cross my fingers and hope I am in a relatively peaceful area. My noob protection comes off in two hours.
Tried to buy some crowns within the game but it doesnt seem to be working.
Got placement near Mongers, near Newstead, name's hungoth :)
Quote from: szmik on May 02, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
Got placement near Mongers, near Newstead, name's hungoth :)
:thumbsup:
I'll send you some stuff, once I get around to buying the merchant research.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 09:10:44 AM
I built some platforms for those archers and they were able to easily defeat an AI raiding party of 30 peasants sent from a rogue encampment that took up residence within the parish - 240 honour to me!
By tonight I should be able to add on a stone outer wall.
It looks like I am within a red parish on the borderlands with purple. No active wars appear to be going on so I will cross my fingers and hope I am in a relatively peaceful area. My noob protection comes off in two hours.
Tried to buy some crowns within the game but it doesnt seem to be working.
My castle got attacked whilst I was out, my 7 archers, managed to defeat some 36 peasants and 4 archers, though my wooden wall took a battering.
Oh and I won despite me forgetting to place Avor.'s re-enforcements he'd sent me. :D
One tip I read Mongers, is not to accelerate your honour too much in the early game because the AI attackers' strength scales with that. Wait until you have your stone defences in place with archers, then go crazy.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
One tip I read Mongers, is not to accelerate your honour too much in the early game because the AI attackers' strength scales with that. Wait until you have your stone defences in place with archers, then go crazy.
Interesting, I've been a bit heavy with that.
But have been playing largely by ear, yes my stone walls are all but non-existent.
What do you feel about buying research points ?
The theatre seems to be a nice building with +6 happiness, though a bit heavy on the stone resources.
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 03:03:49 PM
What do you feel about buying research points ?
I have been doing it whenever I can. That has helped me bump up my stone and wood production as well as increase my building skill.
I made a mistake early on and developed a bunch of education techs slots before I knew what was going on. I thought, great reduction in research time - got to get that! Only to find out there most of the time you are waiting around for the tech points. Not waiting for the tech to finish. /DOH
So, I have felt like I needed to make up for that mistake by purchasing tech points and using them to develop the tech I should have in the first place.
QuoteThe theatre seems to be a nice building with +6 happiness, though a bit heavy on the stone resources.
I can build it, but I am waiting until my defences are in place.
Another thing I wish I had done differently is I invested in some scouting tech. But without the offline scouting AI that is basically useless to me. I cant figure out how to buy the crowns necessary to purchase that option so there goes some more wasted tech I should have devoted to Stone/Wood/construction/defence.
Yes, I made the same mistake with the research techs, figured it would be like almost all other games I'd play. But a nice mechanism to find out about and it makes sense in this game.
Yes, your advice about stone and wood boosting is good, as I'm pretty much bumping along the bottom with my production.
Scouting is useful, and I should have put some some more research in that area as I've noticed other scouts going to resources and cleaning them out.
I rather like the card mechanism, I shall get a bunch of crap ones and then trade them in.
Yeah, over all I really like the game design. I am somewhat reliant on the player who controls the Parish (and thankfully the guy seems to know what he is doing) to run the parish well. There is a quid pro quo with my liege lord - even though he is so far away he cannot know all the plots I have against him - you wont say anything will you? And I look very suspiciously at people in the neighbouring parish. Those outsiders cant be up to any good can they?
And there is a whole other level of politics beyond the parish level that I have no idea about at this point - not until I gain higher status and can actually begin to participate at that level.
All in all they capture the feeling of fuedal politics pretty well.
Woot, beat off the bandits again. This time they brought 30 peasants and 4 archers.
But they were nothing but target practice for my archers standing atop my stone walls.
Also, I have my first merchant out and about. I have an iron smelter producing iron I cant use atm but selling it to the Parish makes a tidy sum - enough to let me continue purchasing tech points every now and then.
Next I plan to diversify into hog farming, wheat and veggie gardens to boost my happiness/honour.
There are few things more honorable in this world than hog farming. Just ask Tamas.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 08:56:49 PM
Woot, beat off the bandits again. This time they brought 30 peasants and 4 archers.
But they were nothing but target practice for my archers standing atop my stone walls.
Also, I have my first merchant out and about. I have an iron smelter producing iron I cant use atm but selling it to the Parish makes a tidy sum - enough to let me continue purchasing tech points every now and then.
Next I plan to diversify into hog farming, wheat and veggie gardens to boost my happiness/honour.
Bit of a calamity here, scouted a wolfs lair, did seem to hard a target, then inadvertently sent too many of may precious archers/troops to attack it, killed afew but lost the battle.
So I'm down to 9-10 archers again.
Wheat/bakeries produce a nice surplus.
Yep, I should definitely go with the smelter/iron production.
Hog heaven sounds good. :cool:
:whistle: I made the same mistake with education.
I'm about to get archers once I got Fletchery running, which costs more than expected. :D
Anyway it feels like Ogame, dress is different, but if you look under ... :yuk:
Any thoughts on the best location for a second village.
so, new strategy. My food output has boosted my happiness quite a bit. So now I am cranking up the tax rate as far as possible without getting negative happiness, using the proceeds to buy tech points and gaining honour by defending against AI attacks and uncovering hidden stashes.
Closing in on rank 10.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 05, 2012, 10:12:55 AM
Any thoughts on the best location for a second village.
Maybe some of use could plan on having 2nd villages al in the same parish, preferable in a contested part of the country, and within similar distance of our 1st villages ?
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 05, 2012, 03:04:40 PM
so, new strategy. My food output has boosted my happiness quite a bit. So now I am cranking up the tax rate as far as possible without getting negative happiness, using the proceeds to buy tech points and gaining honour by defending against AI attacks and uncovering hidden stashes.
Closing in on rank 10.
Yes I've adopted elements of this myself.
My problem is I'm surround by just one faction and all of their villages have mobs of supperfast scouts that gather up all o the stashes in two bites.
edit;
don't forget to invest in some of the happiness inducing and decorative buildings, a theatre is nice and the dove cote seems cheap for what it gives. :cool:
Quote from: mongers on May 05, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 05, 2012, 03:04:40 PM
so, new strategy. My food output has boosted my happiness quite a bit. So now I am cranking up the tax rate as far as possible without getting negative happiness, using the proceeds to buy tech points and gaining honour by defending against AI attacks and uncovering hidden stashes.
Closing in on rank 10.
Yes I've adopted elements of this myself.
My problem is I'm surround by just one faction and all of their villages have mobs of supperfast scouts that gather up all o the stashes in two bites.
Ah, thats is a problem. I only have one neighbour that went the fast scout route. So even my noob scouts can get to stuff before others.
if you want to make money you need to trade.
Get stronger units as those bandits won't stay small for long.
Get your army big too so you can take out the early (iirc) Pig castles. Quite a bit of honor in there.
Yeah, I am trading my excess. But getting honour early is a bad move for exactly the reason you said - those bandits keep getting bigger as you get more honour and work you way up the social ladder.
Much better to defer honour until the military is ready to fight the bigger battles. Once that is in place then I plan to obtain honour by taking out the bandits, wolfs and keeps.
It is a mmorpg (err...rts?) which doesnt bode well but...given the lameness of Stronghold 3 I may have a look.
Well it is an rts in the way that settlers was an rts. This is essentially a resource management game with a castle buiding game built on.
I didnt take long for me to eat through my manpower building up my army. I think I still want to get a bit more tech before I reduce taxes and start boosting honour though.
Woot - hit 10 Thane
I decided to by the premium chip so that I could get the auto scouting and the autotrading while I am off line. I found that my surpluses were getting such that I would either have to log on frequently during the day or risk wastage.
Also, I my scouts are developed sufficiently now that the auto scout function should render some nice benefits while off line.
I dont think I will be getting any cards though. There are only a few that look to be worth it and they are a bit pricey.
I think I shall have to knock this on the head, as it's proving a bit of a time sink.
Well that was my gaming experience over for another year. :cool:
Nooooo.
You just started. It starts becoming much less of a time sink pretty quickly as build/research times grow.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 08, 2012, 06:26:18 PM
Nooooo.
You just started. It starts becoming much less of a time sink pretty quickly as build/research times grow.
Well I might reconsider. :whistle:
Sigh...I'm out on business and haven't had a chance to keep my peasants in line....I sure hope I have something left when I finally return :(
Quote from: Arvoreen on May 09, 2012, 10:18:21 AM
Sigh...I'm out on business and haven't had a chance to keep my peasants in line....I sure hope I have something left when I finally return :(
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. :cool:
I don't think I understand foraging exactly.
I have 2 scouts, and I send them out to forage something. They carry 200 of something back.
I research foraging to level 2, so they can carry 100% more stuff. They still carry 200 of something back.
What am I missing here?
Quote from: Berkut on May 11, 2012, 08:49:39 AM
I don't think I understand foraging exactly.
I have 2 scouts, and I send them out to forage something. They carry 200 of something back.
I research foraging to level 2, so they can carry 100% more stuff. They still carry 200 of something back.
What am I missing here?
Depends on a few things.
1. Raw materials like wood and stone and food you get the most.
2. Processed materials like clothing and weapons you get a lot less of.
3. Depends on how much is left in the stockpile if you got to forge something with only 200 left well then that is all your going to get.
4. I am not sure but I think the scouts only bring back what fits so if you have close full capacity they wont take as much back only enough to fill.
hope that helps
got bored after 2 weeks
problem with those games is you can't just log once a day, if you do you're crippling your town/planet/whatever you manage, which takes out the fun :hmm:
Quote from: szmik on May 17, 2012, 03:29:30 AM
got bored after 2 weeks
problem with those games is you can't just log once a day, if you do you're crippling your town/planet/whatever you manage, which takes out the fun :hmm:
Ditto.
I got my village up to mid-12th level, but I found it boring as I was sandwiched between two very active mature players who already owned multiply villages each.
So I was up against uber scout teams from the start, plus scouting seems to seriously unbalance the game; you get far too much honour for scouting new resource sites, so in some respects the game resolved down to watching the parish map and hoping against hope that the students I was up against might actually have to go off to a lecture/get a life. :hmm:
So just deleted my village, that may well have been my gaming experience over for the year.
I have had a lot of fun playing this and still going strong. I am now a Viscount with 5 villages.
The early game is basically a resource management game with early emphasis on foraging to try to get things rolling. There are a number of ways you can go. I realized I wouldnt have much time so I went heavily into the tech that would build honour passively - arts, decoration, theology. Also maxed foraging and have 3 riders out along with maxing their speed.
The banqueting option might have given more honour in absolute numbers but you need to be on a lot to micro manage all those goods being in the right city at the right time to hold the banquet - way too much work for the amount of time I wanted to spend in the game.
Also, since I was going to be away for long periods I built up my defensive techs to max.
The next choice is to become a supplier of goods or a warrior - ie user of goods by attacking others. The tech requirements are too steep to try to do both. I have opted for the supplier option.
The game really starts after you have passed about squire - the minimum for joining a faction. After that a whole new diplomatic game starts and you get caught up in the politics within factions, factions within houses and houses competing with other houses.
Its great fun. You guys gave up way too easily.
Hey Avoreen. We are practically neighbours now.
Nice...am I still alive? Haven't been on in a couple of weeks to be honest :)
Yeah, you are still there. I am in H6 (blue) we have all of Ireland and Wales. When you get back on you will see the world has changed a fair amount since you last logged on. The Scots own Northern England and H1 is retreating on all fronts except the South East of England where they continue to pound on House 19.
Best advice is to just keep your head down while the dust settles. H1 is the only house that really takes out neutrals and they will essentially consider you a safe neutral - so ironically by not loggin on you probably did the best thing.
Although you might want to log in to check your messages. H11 and H6 may have messaged you to see of you are still playing - they will not hesitate to take your villages if they think you have left the game now that both houses are moving into your area.
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 15, 2012, 02:59:58 PM
Yeah, you are still there. I am in H6 (blue) we have all of Ireland and Wales. When you get back on you will see the world has changed a fair amount since you last logged on. The Scots own Northern England and H1 is retreating on all fronts except the South East of England where they continue to pound on House 19.
Best advice is to just keep your head down while the dust settles. H1 is the only house that really takes out neutrals and they will essentially consider you a safe neutral - so ironically by not loggin on you probably did the best thing.
Although you might want to log in to check your messages. H11 and H6 may have messaged you to see of you are still playing - they will not hesitate to take your villages if they think you have left the game now that both houses are moving into your area.
Good to hear you're still enjoying it.
For some reason I've recently had a go at playing Ultima online city building game and now that you've resurrected this thread, it's prompted me to compare the two and from what I remember the stronghold game is better. :)
Mongers, if you want to get back into it just shoot me with a PM with the email address you are going to use for your account so I can invite you.
Then choose Powys as your starting area. I will keep you well armed and equiped and you will find growing your village a lot more fun this time around with that assistance.
One thing to add is that they have finally implemented the quest system which adds another layer of addiction to the game.
I dread games like this - I always end up wasting excessive time on them and then, like an addict, compulsively quitting just when I've built up a big empire/planet/alliance/whatever. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on August 15, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
I dread games like this - I always end up wasting excessive time on them and then, like an addict, compulsively quitting just when I've built up a big empire/planet/alliance/whatever. :lol:
Yeah, I know what you mean. But this is pretty easy though. I tab into it every once in a while during the day and that works well. Its more like playing Chess or Diplomacy once you get past the initial build out phase because it take so long for things to move across the board.
Quote from: Malthus on August 15, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
I dread games like this - I always end up wasting excessive time on them and then, like an addict, compulsively quitting just when I've built up a big empire/planet/alliance/whatever. :lol:
I know what you mean, that is me to a T. :Embarrass:
Indeed when I just logged in to my steam account, even though I'd deleted the village the play time stat is still there on the steam game page. I was horrified to see I showing 156 hours !!
Clearly quite a bit of that was it logged in the background as I did other stuff, but even so I felt rather guilty. :blush:
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 15, 2012, 03:41:18 PM
Mongers, if you want to get back into it just shoot me with a PM with the email address you are going to use for your account so I can invite you.
Then choose Powys as your starting area. I will keep you well armed and equiped and you will find growing your village a lot more fun this time around with that assistance.
Thanks for that CC, I tried looking at the game anew, but decided against it, cool that you're still enjoying it. :cheers:
For anyone interested starting in a new world, World 6 is starting this week.