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Title: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Faeelin on April 25, 2012, 06:53:46 PM
With CK2 out, EU3 exhausted aside from fan made mods that seem stuck in development limbo, etc., what will the next game we see from Paradox be?
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Ancient Demon on April 25, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Magna Mundi.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: sbr on April 25, 2012, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on April 25, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Magna Mundi.

That mess is never going to see the light of day.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2012, 09:36:18 PM
I think a Hearts of Iron IV is inevitable, but they probably need a release inbetween now and that.

Not sure where they go with the current game engine.  Rome II?  A new historical era?  (WWI?  Alt-Hist WWIII?  Civil War?)

Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Razgovory on April 25, 2012, 10:15:41 PM
I'd like to see a Bronze age game.  Though it would probably suck as much as Rome did.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Valmy on April 25, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
A Greek City States game seems like a winner with how they make games.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Ancient Demon on April 26, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 25, 2012, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on April 25, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Magna Mundi.

That mess is never going to see the light of day.

Why would you say that? It's supposed to be released in about a month.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 26, 2012, 01:53:09 AM
how about another EU3 expansion :D
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: sbr on April 26, 2012, 07:59:49 AM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on April 26, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 25, 2012, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on April 25, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Magna Mundi.

That mess is never going to see the light of day.

Why would you say that? It's supposed to be released in about a month.

It was supposed to be released, what a year and a half ago?

My biggest worry is that if it is released the threatened lawsuits won't happen.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Camerus on April 26, 2012, 08:14:15 AM
Why not EU4?
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Syt on April 26, 2012, 08:19:40 AM
It will be online only and feature micro-transactions. :P
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Viking on April 26, 2012, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on April 26, 2012, 08:14:15 AM
Why not EU4?

EU3.7 - "Age of Exploration"

with a revamp of the colonisation and trade systems including 2000 events simlating the onin war replete with manga style event images.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 26, 2012, 08:57:15 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 26, 2012, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on April 26, 2012, 08:14:15 AM
Why not EU4?

EU3.7 - "Age of Exploration"

with a revamp of the colonisation and trade systems including 2000 events simlating the onin war replete with manga style event images.

at least you left out silly poems by lettow.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Faeelin on April 26, 2012, 09:16:41 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing an EU game that properly modeled colonization. Maybe use something like Victoria's system, and tie the habitability of provinces into tech levels. There was a damn good reason nobody settled Georgia until 1731.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Faeelin on April 26, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 26, 2012, 07:59:49 AM

My biggest worry is that if it is released the threatened lawsuits won't happen.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: sbr on April 26, 2012, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on April 26, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 26, 2012, 07:59:49 AM

My biggest worry is that if it is released the threatened lawsuits won't happen.

Wait, what?

There was a post by ubik in late March

Quote from: ubik;13631326Yes we do have limited resources but that was the smallest of the problems this project had to face. Or, better placed, the reasons behind the high attrition of the last 6 months are the true problems this project had to face. Whether I'll disclose them or not depends on several matters, but rest assured when and if I do it, it's to provide a well documented sequence of misdeeds that will have full impact in court.

As for SotS and any comparison between our ragtag team of amateurs and their studio, I suppose no comparison can be made. First because MM team needs very few money to work (its the most significant asset we have) second because almost all of us work on this part time. Having met Kerberus guys twice, I am pretty sure of their passion, commitment and talent to make SoTS a classic game in its niche.

As for MM, it's going to have time to be released in a good shape. And that's the best news you can read!

As for Universo Virtual, it is now giving the final step to be a proper game studio, albeit very small, but in a good shape to avoid the weaknesses found during the MM development. Stay tuned for more news. :)

As for pity, I don't pity myself. If anything and considering all the cards, I can only praise my luck. In fact, the curse of Magna Mundi as a project is the bless of Universo Virtual as a studio. But I pity dysfunctional relations for instance. I pity those who choose a path of fear before attempting a path of trust. I pity a lack of directness specially as that forces me to be opaque to the extreme. I make a point for never delivering the same that is delivered to me. I always attempt very hard to give much more. Which can be good news or bad news for the receiver, for me and for anyone involved.

Bottom line is: Universo Virtual and Team Magna Mundi are committed to deliver and support a great product for years to come and that is what you all are going to experience.

I don't know anything else, but I like to mock ubik and this entire project.

EDIT:  My hope is that PI will sue UV, or the other way around for some sort of breach of contract.  More likely from the context, ubik would be suing former contributors/employees.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Faeelin on April 26, 2012, 10:04:02 AM
So in other words, the professional modders all got bored :).
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Josephus on April 26, 2012, 11:08:06 AM
Magna Mundi is listed on their website.

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/magna-mundi

Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Josquius on April 28, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
Yes. A Greek city states game.
Or Rome done well.
Also nice would be a properly designed WW1 game.

Though most likely is HOI4. Which hopefully won't suck.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: sbr on April 28, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
I think EU4 comes before HOI4.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: KRonn on May 02, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I'm kind of hoping that Magna Mundi gets made ok. Looked pretty good from what I saw.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: sbr on May 02, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
Good luck.

Now almost 3 months after Going Gold in 24 Hours! (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?588200-Going-Gold-in-24-hours!&daysprune=-1) they are almost to a point where they have  "a game that can be played for a fair amount of time without crashes or blockers. (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?469819-Ask-Paradox-%28almost%29-Anything-Thread&p=13776332&viewfull=1#post13776332)"

:lol:  :insert burning spitfire gif:
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Tamas on May 03, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
meh, I can't help but feel pity for them.
I guess Paradox adopted a more cut-throat business approach toward them than they expected? Not that it is an excuse for a slow development, but these are guys who started with this out of fandom, dedication and trying to create. It must suck big time to experience this bumpy road.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Josquius on May 06, 2012, 01:50:10 AM
What are paradox doing to them?
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: dps on May 06, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 28, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
I think EU4 comes before HOI4.

I think that both are inevitable, but I'm not sure about the order.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: sbr on May 06, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
Quote from: dps on May 06, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 28, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
I think EU4 comes before HOI4.

I think that both are inevitable, but I'm not sure about the order.

I am basing that on EU3 coming before HOI3.

Also EU3 made the EU franchise more popular while HOI3 almost killed HOI.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Habsburg on May 06, 2012, 11:25:37 PM
This is like asking who will make The Girl with the Dragon Tatto AGAIN?
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Evil Spock on May 15, 2012, 06:14:43 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 06, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
Quote from: dps on May 06, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 28, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
I think EU4 comes before HOI4.

I think that both are inevitable, but I'm not sure about the order.

I am basing that on EU3 coming before HOI3.

Also EU3 made the EU franchise more popular while HOI3 almost killed HOI.

HoI3 FTM 3.06 or whatever is actually quite fun and relatively bug-free. Microing 300+ divisions on the ostfront is exhausting though. I do it in hour long shifts before my eyes and wrist gives out.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Josquius on May 16, 2012, 08:03:04 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 06, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
Quote from: dps on May 06, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 28, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
I think EU4 comes before HOI4.

I think that both are inevitable, but I'm not sure about the order.

I am basing that on EU3 coming before HOI3.

Also EU3 made the EU franchise more popular while HOI3 almost killed HOI.

I'd say that's probally an argument for HOI4.
With the rubbish HOI3 as the latest and most up to date HOI it will make for quite a bad introudction to the series for new players and put a lot of people off trying it. EU3 meanwhile remains well regarded and should keep selling.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: Faeelin on May 16, 2012, 08:51:20 AM
My concern is that Paradox doesn't seem to get what's wrong with HOI3, which is that America and the Pacific theater in general are broken.

They just want to play with the Eastern Front.
Title: Re: So what will Paradox Make Next?
Post by: szmik on May 17, 2012, 03:23:56 AM
Quote from: Evil Spock on May 15, 2012, 06:14:43 PM
HoI3 FTM 3.06 or whatever is actually quite fun and relatively bug-free.

people are happy when something is relatively bug-free ... oh, the standards  :rolleyes: